Episode 45 Season Two Finale_mixdown
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[00:00:00] Right. Season two recap. Let's recap. And this one's good because we don't have no STR we don't got no structure with it. No prep, no notes. We can just chop it up. It was a long year. nah, serious, serious. I'm the youngest at all. Y'all like it was a long year arduous. The task was heavy. Nobody was able to carry the load by themselves.

Neither game of throne. Seriously do do, do, do, do, do do that's. Do do, do, do, do what serious

no, no, man. I enjoyed it. I think season two was good. It, it was good learning experiences. Like figuring out like what we wanted to do, how we wanted to make a move forward, especially dealing with the fact that we wanted to try to make a profit and figuring out how to make profit from this. So we feel like we aren't wasting our time.

That was one thing that we talked about that we discussed. Mm-hmm but the ability to. Contact and reach out to people like to get who we want. Talk to season two was dope. That [00:01:00] was our most organized year. Yes. Yes. It was so far so far. That's all. Oh man. Yeah. Thought around. No kill. Yeah. Real time. No, you know what a lot of it is.

Man really? And I gotta, and like I said, I know I'm doing this shameless blood. I gotta plug my wife in. I put Lisa in Virgo. Lisa? Yes. I got Virgos. Typee yo typee Virgos. Yeah. You know how it is. That's why you were angry this morning structure. I need structure. Don't mess with 'em. Yeah, but that's where, like I said, with the whole podcast and everything, like, I wouldn't even be able to do that if I wouldn't have that influence like that.

Yeah. To where it has to be structured and stuff. Mm-hmm and I think that's the that's the most awesome thing about it. And like I said, you know, especially, you know, like I said, just with that, and then with work. And other obligations too, but then honestly, man, I can't even do it with Y you guys, like I said, you guys are an amazing team.

One band, one sound. Yeah, exactly. One my one soul. No. And I know it's [00:02:00] always had these conversations and stuff and even with just like creation the podcast itself. Like, I, I literally, like when I was thinking about with everything that was happening, leading up to right before we got started and with 2020 and everything, one of the things I looked back on, I was like, Kevin, Who are the people that over the years, that when it comes to not only a balance of friendship, but also getting things done and having a skill set who are the people you've always worked with the best.

Right. Yep. And was like, and like I said, you guys all popped up. And so it was like, obviously we have to do something together. Yeah. And because we've all, and we all shared this you know, for years we've all worked on projects with other people and other things mm-hmm, either with us working with those people or even us independently working with those people work with other people, but we come back and where we each other every once in a while yeah.

Do something. And it's like, and things would always kind of. Fall out and people would give up and then we'd be all pissed off and stuff. We'd be like, man, that make this work that make this work. Like I remember [00:03:00] conversation I had with somebody one I'd be angry. Y'all I'd be angry. Oh man. I remember somebody was like, gotta make this work.

I don't wanna be do as somebody, you know, and I, I was like, oh shit, gotta make sense. We gotta make this work. Then yeah's that pressure. Yeah. It's that pressure. But though, but like, she had a point though with that though, and I, cause like you said, you get to see some, some that stuff happen so often it's so frequent.

It's like, yo something has to give mm-hmm like something has to work and you write Ken, like, cuz we've all worked with people. And I know I worked with my people out. I've I've worked, I've worked in clubs. I've done. Spiritual work I've done yoga work stuff. I've done everything. He'll tell you.

I've done everything. and Kevin and I, and we brothers too, this is what makes us funny, but we never worked on this type of stuff together. No, we didn't never, never, never. The only thing we ever did together was I would do some music stuff. Yeah. And that's it. Yes. That's no, never worked on anything else together.

It's funny as heck don't make no sense, [00:04:00] Uhuh. So like when he bought this idea to me, I was like, you right. You, right. This makes sense. We, we should have been doing something like this because it melds both worlds. It puts the. it puts the intellectual and it puts the creative together. Mm-hmm we hadn't done that.

Think about it. That's crazy. Isn't it? Yeah. I know. Never done that. One of the things we were talking about leading up to all this was like community owned media. Yeah. Like you, you can't get the bullshit story, you know, like, like if, if you're talking about your own community, mm-hmm, , you're not getting.

Fake shit. Right. I mean, I guess you can, but most of it's gonna be, it's hard filter, lot of, you know, sensor our stuff. Yeah. Well, and if, if there is any like Outside influences that are trying to sway the public politically or socially. Let's say for example, disclaimer, go ahead Mike, say it, go ahead Mike.

Say this, this is something we know that is going on and not just saying some conspiracy shit, like, like yeah, you can look right now and see that Russia was [00:05:00] like talking trash about vaccines on forums for years. Yeah. Before this shit happened and like that's. That is a tool now is just so discontent, discontent, and beef between communities and, you know, people, there are bots that are acting as BLM and there are bots that are acting as Antifa and there's bots that are acting as fucking Nazis.

And they've bots are fighting bots on the internet and we just like, sucking that shit up and like, oh my God, all these people hate everyone else. Well, but then the bots hate each other. Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna say any people that do. The bot, give the bot, give credence and, and support to people who feel like they're isolated.

Yeah. There's an amplification of our isolation. Oh yeah. Yeah. And if we can, if we can start retaking our, our local media mm-hmm and you know, like, like one of our guests today was talking about talking to local musicians and having their own music scene now because [00:06:00] radio, station's not that venue anymore.

Mm-hmm . So yeah. Yeah. I think, I think some of the, some of the deeper things behind what we're doing, it's not just not just that. No, but what you just said is the reason why we doing what we're doing, because you can't trust the stuff outside of your local sphere of influence you. Can't, it's just what it is.

Like, I'll go online and I'll look at stuff and I'll see what, what exists. And I remember, you know, you always get taught this, you, what did they say? Don't trust, trust, nothing that you hear. Trust, let's say 50% of what you hear and nothing that you see, or some bullshit like that. I forget what they do.

Mm-hmm but literally the stuff that you get, you can't trust nothing. You gotta take it, you gotta filter through it. Check your sources, make sure that the firsthand sources is not second or third hand. Right. and then no, for real. Cause everybody lives off thirdhand sources. Oh yeah. That's everything's a thirdhand source.

A man in South Carolina. Yeah. Such as sex school. What's his name? What's his name? What's his address? Yeah. Is that used to be basic journalism and be like, yeah, that's it man. William Jones at one 43 [00:07:00] cent street. Thank you. Because you needed to go and be like, Hey, did you say this motherfucker? Is he really?

He living? You got picture. We gonna check this out. Did he use the bathroom? But feel like social media is the new news. You can see everything on there. Well, the news news reports on what's on social media now that's the right, which is weird. Yeah. See, that's the point because yes. That's why I asked why is social media, the new news?

Because the news reports what's on it. If the news weren't doing that, and this is what gets weird, if it didn't do that, we wouldn't have that, that atmosphere wouldn't be relevant. Wouldn't be relevant. Yeah. And hard journalism is, is expensive. Yeah. If you're gonna have, you know, four or five people running research.

Yes. You know, like that's. That's not something you can do, unless there's like a, a, a culture and a philosophy of like, yes, you're gonna do this. Investigative report might be six months before you find out that they poison into water supply with some shitty pipes that they don't wanna fix. Yep. But when you do, it's kind of a big deal and it's hard evidence, hard evidence will be behind it.

So you, but do people appreciate that anymore? when, [00:08:00] when they clean their water supply, they do. If you can tell no, the, the, the journalism, the hard evidence, do they, the story, the, that goes into the, the journey. No, but the outcome, yes. It's like, do you want your cake? You want your cake and you want to eat it too.

And, and the point of this, those folk who live, who are in Flint, Michigan, when they found out that stuff about the water, it explained a. They were happy to have that information. Yeah. But they did not. The, the journey to get to that information was lost on them. They didn't care about it. They didn't even know what was going on.

Cause they should've been drinking that nasty water boy, true babies. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's people again goes back to that chicken little thing. No one cares about who's making the bread or how they're making it. They just want to eat the bread in the jam. But the problem is you, you should be involved.

Can you find, ask, got that yoga match show? No, I'm saying part, you must be involved in it. Yoga mat, your bread, you supposed be involved in it. Like this is person on Instagram and [00:09:00] they do this thing where they find like they study food and stuff. See, what's good. And what's bad for you. Yeah. And they do this thing about.

Trying to figure out what bread has certain pesticides in it. Right. And it's crazy, cuz like technically if you're a smart person, right. You know, everything got pesticides in it. I hate to say this. Mm-hmm like being from the south of being in the country. We done live by so many crops and stuff. I know they put, I seen the man take the D round up out and go switch work.

It's Roundup. Ready? We yeah. Hoses the shit down. Yeah. Yeah. Spread skirt. This is not news. squirt skirt. This ain't news to me, but when someone puts it out and they're like, okay, so this bread and this bread and that bread, I'm like, okay, cool. I know the process you went through and got stuff. Cool. I'll absorb it now, but I do know better.

You know what I'm saying? It's almost to the point where, okay, that's kind of lost on me, but for people that don't have any understanding, mm-hmm , this is monumental. You know what I mean? Them knowing that, Hey, if I buy this bread, I know that 400 parts per. Per middle per was it? I forget 400 parts [00:10:00] per I forget what the bread was.

It was horrible. It was like, Pet pepper farmer, Sarah Lee. It had like, yo, the amount of Roundup in it. Sarah. Yes. Child. I hurt my feelings. Sarah Lee there's limits to this that are set by the FDA. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Those are cool limits though. That's the two pieces of rat shit is fine. Yeah. Yes. It's fine.

As long as it's in a million pieces of bread. Yes, that's fine. You know, there's. You can't just shut down every place, just cause you found a cockroach and one people need bread. Look at Kevin over here, man. You know, you gotta do your research, man. You just can't be saying, you gotta at least look verified site that I am not correct on the amount of rat shit that's allowed in there, but there are limits.

Okay. Now the site, I just pulled up, it said, this is the name of the site is what's on my food.org. So when people hear this, so throwing up some stuff, go look it up. All my food.org. Now they said they pulled information in regards to wheat flour, [00:11:00] pesticides from the U S D a data program. And up here that has the links and everything to that, where they pulled this data.

But as far as the different types of pesticides that were found, it's a list of, Ooh, don't list them. I'm gonna eat my bread. Stop. Don't say nothing numbers. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, now, and this is. This is not the bread. This is in flour. Don't say that, bro. I just try to my fault. Y'all I didn't even measure 17 different ones.

It's 17. It's 17 different pesticides. God, all in trace amounts in flour. Yep. And wheat flour. Yeah. Darn it. Now this is, this is all trace amounts too. Now, like when you just around outside, there are, you know, I mean, this is South Carolina, my neighbors be walking around with them, fogger things, killing mosquitoes.

And I'm like, this smells like laundry, fresh detergent. That means it's got to be poison. Cause you know, they don't make nothing smell pretty unless it's poison. Like XON B had no smell, they had to ass smell. So you would know where it was at. They [00:12:00] start, they started doing that. The fresh bleach and shit.

We need to have like a sidebar, like a conspiracy blog for Mike, like, well this is not a conspiracy, not co. Poison smells nasty. That's your body. Yo, what grandma used to tell us. We used to come in from the summer and they used to do de spraying in Marion. Yeah. Wash, take a shower like wash. She said, cuz when you go out into the air and stuff out in the air gets onto your body mm-hmm and we thought this is my grandma.

She was a nurse. Yeah, we never, we were like, what is she talking about? Stuff, getting on our body from the air. We're fine. She said, don't lay in that bed. We're like what? Don't lay in the bed. Yeah. Take a shower. Still. She a crazy take shower. Yeah. Yeah. We take a shower. I'm taking a shower except about to get in bed, but I got wash this.

Yeah, we don't Uhuh. Oh, wow. Yeah. We, so like, since we were children and we lived with her, we realized that this was a real. Didn't she didn't explain it to her. Cuz we're little kids. We don't gotta understand that. Oh, just pesticides, et C. Yeah. This is before we've seen like crazy YouTube videos and print talking about chem trails late night, somewhere.

None of that, I gotta, I gotta make a [00:13:00] correction of that for our audience. They are spa trails, Contra trails. Not. Kim trails. Oh, thank you. Really? Yeah. They're condensation trails. Cause when diesel fuel burns in high altitude, one of the things that's produced is water. Once you got hydrogen, S is when you're, that's what you see, see you do it up in the, where it's cold and, and the pressure is low and instantly forms a cloud, a condensation trail.

Yep. And like, my dad was an aircraft mechanic and a FAA inspector. So like, like it's one of 'em things where. Those are the people that fix your airplanes. Yes. And if there were giant tanks of chemicals being hidden in the wings, your maintenance guys would know this shit. Would've been a, you've been literally dead mainten, thousands of avionics.

Would've been all over the world that would've to be in this conspiracy for that to be what's going on. And if they didn't let 'em do it, you know, they'd be dead. Yeah. So, well, but you know, That being said, there are people that have hypothesized about ways to fix those own layer by doing that shit. And there are plans to make sprayers like China, even talking about that [00:14:00] China, China had to do it.

Did they? Yeah. For the Olympics, their air was so nasty. They were spraying had to, they had to clean, they had to clean the air. Yeah. So, so then we could run, what do you call it? Something that, something that clumps all shit together. It's it wasn't like, it was like, like a detergent for the air so we could run to run seriously.

Cause the athlete, people doing it in the middle of nowhere, yeahs are fresh. They were, they were going to not go to the Beijing Olympics. Yeah. Because they were like, if I go over here, I'm messing up my lungs. Yeah. Because what does China burn to make electric? Coal. Yeah, they go for, this is business trying to go on for broke.

Wait, when the last time you would've crossed the damn cause we burning coal too. Stop telling them that Mike, you don't wanna mess up the damn right up. American gotta have American jobs, American jobs. Good, good American jobs, but no, for real, like they burn coal. So does India, a lot of these countries that are trying to catch up to the, to the United.[00:15:00] 

They're they burn resource. They burn things fuel that we don't have to do in large amounts, but on the hand they know how to clean it now. So they get up there and they put the little thing in there, scrub the air, scrub the ground scrub. So they scrub the air, made it clean so that our people can go over there and run.

And everybody went over, they came back, they were fine. They ran pretty fast. Oh yeah. It ran pretty fast. So it worked fast. It was trying to makes things happen. They make it go trying to make it go that apple, that laptop, make it go, China, make it go. Foxcom make it go. Foxcom make it go. My stuff right here.

You know, I got Lenova, you know, that thing came from China. Know some people that you, that shit got so much. They, I make it go people that jumping put us a giant back door we make it go. So I can't even talk trash. That's why I tell we gotta. The good with the bad. So, yeah. And that's it. And I think that's, and I think another, well, I know one of the things that I think I liked about this season too, was the fact that [00:16:00] we got to.

I think we got to find out a lot about like per perception versus reality. Yeah. With people. And I think a lot of times is we see people online and we have one type of perception of 'em or at least what's portrayed, but there it is entirely different. And it, it can be seen as in a positive way too, because what you realize is there's a lot more depth to people and there's, and everybody kind of has a story to tell mm-hmm that's unique to them that a lot of people, if they meet with them every day, they want to hear that.

Even some of the people who they may feel like they might have a closer relationship with them than you do as an interviewer, you probably know, learned about more things about them than those people may know as well. So just like continuing in that direction. And stuff and that journey and just meeting people.

And I think another neat thing was too is just seeing just like how our like, relation we've built relationships with diff our, our guests mm-hmm pre and post. Yeah. Especially. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and [00:17:00] then just seeing how, you know, how a lot of sometimes might have been a little skeptical at first to one interview.

Now, when they kind, they get to interact with us and they work with us and it was neat cuz it was even though it was virtual. They still got to, you know, they still got to feel that connection. And then just seeing how that kind of impact, you know, like how that relationship is now. That's why I'm like, if it was like that and we were meeting with people virtual, just imagine, oh, is way better.

Yeah. Yeah. Way better. Y'all get ready for season three. So is that, is that the plan is, is live whenever possible next, next year. Oh yeah. We're gonna do live whenever possible. So we gonna be doing like maybe three at a time or two at a time still, or? Yeah. That's another thing too, that I liked about this season doing the multiples.

Yeah. It cut down it cut down to be honest, like, yeah. Like, like it's a longer set, but it's easier for me to be like, yo Saturday to watch you call it. I'm I'm not available. Yeah. Yeah. And it was fun. Like seeing how much content built up content we got. Cause it's like, alright. [00:18:00] We're still editing stuff from March.

Come on. And it is like how they do it though. Then you see what I'm saying? Now you talking about 40 man. Yeah. That that's that's a two year season. Yeah. You know, what's wild about that. We can get 40 done production wise and like. 10 months, like it's just on a calendar to do that. That's the point. That's what makes it cool.

Mm-hmm it's like you're building up a reserve. Yeah. It's like the us with nuclear weapons. Like we just do not go on that topic. Looking good. This is all our soft topic looking real side of the table. I want everybody else to know out here. Y'all need to stand down. Don't mess with us. We got enough knowledge to destroy the world.

Yes. But don't stand down, but don't but like you said, but I think a lot of it's just for trial and error too, because I think what happens is, and I always tell people, this is, you gotta actually start doing the work and you gotta, you gotta F up. Sometimes you gotta fuck up. Sometimes you only got one missing episode.

Yeah. KU knows kudos to that. but you were with that, we figured [00:19:00] out some stuff. Yeah. See, but like you said, make it work, but it's because we messed up and then we had to figure it out. Mm-hmm right. Mm-hmm and we're figuring it out and we know what we gotta do and I think, but we couldn't have done it if we wouldn't be the people that we are mm-hmm , that's, True's true.

Right? Because not everybody can do that. Mm-hmm so it's the fact that, like I said, we can all sit down. We can all like critique what it is that we're. And from like a group setting. And then from there we can take that and come up with a plan of action to resolve something. And that's something, like I said, you got people who they just can't, they can't do that.

I like, we got tough skin. Yeah. We ain't got like, I don't see none of us in here. Just like shitting on ourselves. No, because somebody says something like we, we're all pretty tough skins. We can yeah. Take wets being and thrown at us. That's another, you know, that's like, but when does that ever. Like, like we, we had a conversation with anybody that's been, nah, you ready?

It cause our vibrations frequency, we, we give that energy. We give that good energy. I don't think we are gonna have an [00:20:00] issue with that. Yeah. But say if something did come, I don't think it's something that's gonna be on our, that's gonna cause us to stop moving in the way in which we move. Yeah. Yeah.

That's the biggest that's man. It's a big hurdle. Cause, and that was one of the cool things about the interview. When we were talking about the. With lb was, Hey man. You know, some people they can't do that. Mm-hmm they can't, they can't make it. They take things personally and they'll stop in the track.

It'll stop. That's that ego, that pride. Yeah. And you see that. And then I will say, I do think what I gotta attest what Tamara said is I think it's because of the energy that we give off and it's because we're so in control of what our brand is, mm-hmm that those types of individuals or that type of energy.

Come into our space. Yeah. We don't attract it. Yeah. So it's like, when it, when those types of things happen or somebody's in that vibe, we've been blessed enough to where we don't have to necessarily deal with, or they don't deal with where they deal with other, but right. I've seen, we don't, we don't play that.

It ready. We don't play that. [00:21:00] It start a certain way ain in and that way mm-hmm . Yeah. And we, it's not trying to be, it's not being it's not being combative or anything. It's just. Bro. We trying to give out love vibe. Mm-hmm we gonna peel that mask? Off's real gentle, but we gonna peel that mask off layer by layer what's up layer by layer, linear peels.

Give me that stuff, get it. And, and it works. It, it leads to good con great conversation. Yeah, it does. And, and a lot of times it's not even a, just like it's, it is more so like a dialogue. Like we, we start off we round about and we come back to where we finish mm-hmm and it makes sense. You would argue that that's kind of like, that's actually more prevalent in the world than the combative.

Yeah, I agree. There's just these scenarios that society has set up. Mm-hmm that make it a combative nature, but usually it bots and maybe that's a Southern thing too. Bot is only one aspect of it, but yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, implicit bias is real. There's all kind of shit. It ISS going on. It is. But, but I think particularly in the, when you're talking to somebody in the grocery line, there's a certain amount [00:22:00] of Southern.

Gen TEALS hospitality, hospitality. Mm-hmm but, but you know, somebody's gonna be a little bit polite even. Yeah. I don't have, that might be a foot in the door for y'all to find that connection. Yep. You know, and I feel like that's that's most of that's, most of the real interactions are like that. Mm-hmm yeah.

Genuine. Mm-hmm you can imagine, like, we've had a lot of those type of interactions over and over and over again. That's extra cool. That's you know, that's not something lost. Yeah. On the previous episode, did y'all talk about the name of the podcast. Which on season one? Yeah. Cause I know we talked about it on yes and no.

The other one we were featured on. Yeah. We never talked about okay. Y I never talked about the name of the podcast. Okay. Now we don't. So for the people have been journeying with this through y'all dunno, this, this companion podcast compan. No So the name Hilltop glove is, is funny because it's actually, it's actually, it's a unique name cuz essentially it's based [00:23:00] on it's actually based on real life stories.

Yes. Yes. It's real. Life's part north. Y'all this part north Lexton LX. I wish it was, but it actually goes back before that. Oh it than that. It still goes back and Florida. Oh, I know that. So, okay. But this is the reason why we were using it there. Yeah. Let's see. Why does it make sense? So, cause of course, you know, our, and.

Before we came to Lexington, we used to live in Marion, South Carolina. And so we lived in Marion, South Carolina from about like 1995 to 2001. Yep. And while we were there, you know, of course, you know, at that age, you know, that was when, like for me, it was from like fifth grade to junior year. And then for on war, it was second grade, second grade.

Yeah. Second grade up to ninth grade, third grade, ninth grade. Right. Mm-hmm and you know, that's like those years are very develop. In your life. Right. And so the name Hilltop was actually the name of a basketball court. We used to always go to and play basketball in Marion. Yep. The Hilltop. Yeah, the Hilltop.

And that's what everybody's talking about. Yep. And that's what we gotta do too. This season. We gotta talk to some Marion folks too. We did season and coming up the South Carolina history, that genealogy [00:24:00] episode mm-hmm oh, seriously. Get my can on yeah, bill talk. Yeah. Talk. And so we definitely gotta do that.

And so, but there's, that's the name of basketball? And so it's neat. Cuz the basketball court was actually like right beside where my aunt or aunt used to stay at. Yeah. And so her aunt who had passed away back in 2020, that's got weird thing about that now, but yeah, but that's like one of that's like one of my closest aunts, like I love all my aunts don't even, I love our brother, but she was definitely the closest my aunt Laurie.

Cause she had children our age. Yeah. Cuz yeah, we're all the same age. But by to. Turning same birthday, really? Right around corner for you's like everybody's close. Yeah. Yeah. And so it was that. And then, and we were allowed to go over there cause she lived over there. Cause she didn't, we wouldn't be able to go over there because they used to have thugs used to be back at court.

But we used to go get to go play basketball because we were right, right around the court corner from our aunt and so was safe. We can go over there and play, but yeah. Oh, I just love playing basketball there. And then the glove part. Yes. It's the glove you [00:25:00] tell the glove part. Yeah. So Gary Payton, that's my favorite basketball player all time.

his nickname is glove because the way he used to play defense and he would literally not let you go, he'd be like a glove. He he'd be on you. And so, because of that, when I used, used to go play, play basketball there, my thing was, I was smaller than most people, but, you know, I played really good defense.

And so since I used to play defense hard, I would get on the court because if I didn't get, look, if I didn't play defense, I wasn't getting on the court. Cause I remember the first time I came up to park north, I remember this, this hilarious first time park, playing basketball, right. Playing with Deebo and them.

Right. I little look I come down, I come down, I got my little fan ball down hill. He threw my ball down the hill said, damn, this is big, this big old dude throwing my ball down the hill. I was like, forget that. I'm about to deal up everybody. So I was like, I'm gonna shut Yancy down. I'm gonna shut red down.

I'm gonna shut everybody down this day. I was angry. Boy. I was. Because Deebo threw my D ball down the hill, man. But yeah, that's the type of tenacity that we used to like to bring to the court. I used to love [00:26:00] that tenacity that he bought, how he played and he was nasty. He's taught trash. You he'd be spitting and stuff.

Looking crazy. Look, yeah. Look at some of the gay and stuff crazy on the court. You literal crazy. And so I was just like, yo, you know what? That, that tenacity, that is a good. How you say template for how you should attack things. Yeah. That's always to think about it. So that would be a dream Hilltop glove made sense, because I was like, that's who I am.

I'm the Hilltop glove. You know what? We're gonna interview Gary Payton one day. Yeah, we are. We're gonna interview Gary Payton cuz he don't know it, but we about yeah. We're interview one day. Shit hit him on the DM. That's what's what I'm saying. You do that now do just like alright, sure. Get your father.

We had call you up real quick. We got interview, man. And I've been a fan of you since you was in Oregon. Like somebody from repost me when artists, my mom dropped, I was like, what happened? This producer from Africa, reposted, like, you know, you shut up. And I was like, what? Ooh, what, where were they from in Africa?

I don't know what part, but I, his name is protege. Hit him back. We have to talk to Che. Oh, what that said. All [00:27:00] right. So for everybody who would be a dream guest for each, each of you guys? Oh shit. Mm. A dream guest. Yeah. If we can interview anybody, which I know we can interview anybody honestly, but who would be a dream guest?

That's a good point. That's kind of hard. Cause you know, the spectrum is so wide. You've gotta pick one. Don't gotta be, you know, just pick, pick one, throw it out there. B rock Baba. All right. You know how cool that would be to get to speak with him. If you could get him to take his mask off. Hey, I know what I'm saying.

Like yeah. To be him. Yeah. To be himself. Yeah. That would be dope. But outside of that, let me.

You know, really, man, it, it would have to be a business leader. That's who I wanna speak with, this is God, this is Nigerian billionaire. You think he's in the top 50 richest top concrete. That's what I wanna talk to. Yeah. Ain't I can see that plain bullshit. That's exactly what I wanna speak to Kevin.

That's that's what I wanna do. That'll [00:28:00] dope. I talk to him. That'll be dope. I cause you don't even know his name. Let me go look him up real. Yeah, he's a he's a concrete magnet. Hmm. Yeah. Mike, what about you? Oh man. I don't even know bro. That's, that's a hard one. That's hard. I mean, if I wanted to be real basic with it, Andre 3000 RZA.

Yeah. I could see that would be great. Like some people that are like, you know, like some real deep thinkers mm-hmm And then if I, if I really, if I really spent time thinking on it I mean, I think those are the conversations I like to have as people that doing a lot of, like, mm-hmm lot of, lot of thought mm-hmm about life existence.

Yeah. About the mystery, about why we here and that kind of shit. Mm-hmm and like, you know, just culturally, those are people that, that stood out influenced our generation mm-hmm , but that's not the only ones. Yeah. I don't know. See, like, I don't, I don't fanboy on business people, man. That's the thing. I'm just, I'm too jaded [00:29:00] for all of that. I know you are. Yeah. Cause you gotta deal in that business world. Somebody called me jaded before I was like, what are you jaded? Really? What were you really think that about me?

I'm with this wrong being I'm traced nothing. I was just like you about to slap. I was kinda like, wow. Never heard that one before. Yeah. Cheat ACO. Dan, go. That's that's his name? Yeah, that's how I wanna speak. Well, let you smile because even more, just, just go ahead. Oh, go ahead. You're talking about, I was saying, cause he does more than just, just cement.

He does flour, salt, sugar noodles. You know, he reminds me of who, I guess, I guess I could speak to this guy if I can't speak to him. Master P he's like the African master P oh yeah. Yeah. He's like doing what he's telling you to do. Like he would way, when I think about name dash, how he, he would be just, you take a bunch of different businesses and you slowly put 'em together and it creates a, a foundation.

Mm-hmm I'm just like, so how you, how you put all that. Well, the same shit you used to grind up the stone. It's the same shit used to grind up the grain. So he's very smart. He grinding the wash off real good. [00:30:00] Put some new hands on real quick. we own the whole project lo right. I am not trying to defam this man, but do not.

That's his actual business. But it sounds good. And then he make the noodles with other stuff. vertical integration, vertical integration. That's how you and he, I imagine he he's running the market in Nigeria, Ghana, South Africa, Ethiopia, the Benin Republic came and like, he just runs those markets. Cuz like you say, he's vertically integrated.

That's so smart. That's dope. So mines would be a thing here's at top of my head Oprah. Okay. I wanna pick her brain so bad. Kobe Deepak Chopra. I'm not angry at that. I like that. I like the respect that, yeah, that's dope. For me, geez, this is actually really easy for me. I don't wanna talk to fre Williams.

I already know that. Yeah. Know that it would just be him or Timlin. I knew. Yeah. It's one of those too. Yeah. One of those makes sense, but the reason why, cuz you one of my favorite podcasts is other. Other tone you cuz you know, that's Ferrell's podcast. Yeah. And you knows up there [00:31:00] and you know, what's crazy about it.

You know, who cohot that podcast with him? Who family? I don't, you know, that shut up. That's what's dope because the crazy thing about it is, is that so family was an artist that, like I said, he grew up with very similar like clips and now, but he did like a few projects, but he kind of like faded out. Mm.

Can it's neat that years, years later, that they're still working with each other. Cause you can tell they still had that relationship with each other. And it's neat because like I said, kinda real relationship. Yeah. It kind of reminds us of what we're doing here with the Hilltop glove. And I always thought that was really neat.

And then too, it's like, I wanna talk to somebody like that because so much of what's going on now, especially when it comes to like, like black creatives mm-hmm , especially those who don't really. The, the cl the traditional, and I guess it would be the traditional hip hop narrative, or at least the one that was established mm-hmm back in like the nineties.

That whole, like, you know, the setting of archetypes that have built [00:32:00] and everybody just kind of gravitates to these things that have already been established in just a different flavor slightly. Yeah. The original cats are kind of rare. Yeah, exactly right. They, and that's the thing, because you think about it, like somebody like that off that creative tree, it's so many things that have S sprouted as a result of that creative tree existing.

Now they might even be somebody that had like a direct personal relationship with them. But because that, that archetype got established, it was visible and it was seen as being acceptable or seen as value. You had these other things that come off of it. Cuz you gotta realize something. If it wouldn't have been for somebody.

Like for real, wanted to been for the Neptunes wouldn't been for all that. Somebody like Kanye wouldn't have necessarily had a space at all. Oh yes. Right. Oh, they would've box get what I'm saying. Heck somebody like, like used to, like, would've took all his rats, get what I'm saying. Right. That's what was about to happen.

Right. And that's not even talking about other people they influenced. So not even talking about like the Tyler creators SI hell or yep. The who am I [00:33:00] thinking? Say, but man we were just talking about 'em earlier, Travis Travis Scott. It's a whole creative. Even people like childish gambling, amino.

Yeah. Whatever, all these different folks. Yep. Who leading into the, into film industry and all that stuff, stuff. Right. It all goes back to those roots. And so it'd be neat just to kind of talk to somebody like that. I mean, even stuff like, plus you can get some Ru shaker in there. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Ru shaker

little SWP. Go ahead. Yeah, but that's like, that's, that's what I would love to do. Like talk to somebody like that. Talk to somebody like a Teddy Riley and talk about just like all those different as to why he had him dancing and all that stuff at his in his zoom thing when, when it fell apart. Yeah, man.

Yeah. What you got on them dancers, bro. And I'm like, all you gotta do is play your music. You Teddy Riley. I know you ain't even gotta do nothing. I gotta do push a button on the. But just like people like that, man, like I said, cuz those were people that have always like inspired me. So especially if like a creative perspective, nah, seriously, I should have said Tyler Perry.

Tyler Perry would be a good one too. Cause I wanna talk to somebody that owns [00:34:00] a production company. Ooh. You know? No, you're right. The ins and out of that has to be hectic. So like where you could literally, I remember him talking about this. You can make a bet on yourself and not worry about the repercu.

Well you, yeah. I mean, I don't know money. That's never, I don't know if there's ever I'll put, like, I gotta be funny on this one, but some of them things, Tyler Perry put out, I know he know he's making no money off that let's yeah. You know, he ain't making no money off. That's making money, still put it out.

That was his point. He said this, I remember he was talking about, he was like, well, these other production coming up and he, they aren't gonna pay me the same. To do what I want to do. So like in owning his own production company, he could take a bet on himself where he could like, Hey, I'm gonna make this show about this creepy guy who has this who has this facility where he's basically stealing people and raping a little boys and people gonna watch it.

I don't even know if y'all even look at his shows on BT. Y'all watch the shows. No, y'all be quiet shows on cause I actually watch so that's why I can talk trash right now. See, I watched, I seen the [00:35:00] oval. I, my God sisters, I seen these shows, right? I seen a little bit of sisters, girl. Yeah. That show is ridiculous.

But I'm looking at it. I'm like, yo, so how's he taking these bets? Because I'm like, no, one's really gonna watch these shows. I'm just watching 'em cuz I got problems. Mm-hmm so I'm watching these shows, right? And I'm like, okay, how's he taking these bets? And he, he, he broke it down. I forget. He was on the earn leisure podcast.

Yeah. Break this down. Cause you know, he did a little thing, but he's like since I own my whole, again, he's vertically integrated. Since I can do that, I can take these bets. And the reason why he does it is because he. The culture, especially from him, his people to have a certain value. And it made sense cause he's like, so for instance, he remember he was talking about hiring ley Tyson for a movie and in the movie he paid her a million dollars to do the movie.

Mm-hmm it wasn't, she didn't need to get paid a million dollars. He did it because she never got paid a million dollars in the past. Yep. So he paid her a million dollars just to show the principle. That's it whole thing. So now he's bringing in these black actors and getting treated a certain way. They never been treated before.

Oh, raise your value up. Don't [00:36:00] don't you walk out that door. Yeah. That today's price is not that's the point space price. And so he was like, I'm gonna do it. . And so if he does any deals, he's like, I'm not worrying about if I'm like, I'm gonna recoup it. It's fine. I'll be alright. And I just thought about it.

I'm like no one, he got that weird show out on B E T. Now I can see how he can do that, but there's, there's a lot of ways that you can make money off of shit too. I immediately, that's my point, you know? Yeah. Like, yeah, you can get, you can make it later. You can get some, some subsidies for shooting in different areas.

You can, you can. And a lot of times that's and they do that in Georgia. Why they'll bounce around. Yeah, Georgia. Yeah. I didn't know. It was that big. There's some places in Canada. I mean, there's new Orleans is doing that now because I forgot some of 'em small. Like I municipality itself is just doing it rather than the whole state, but yeah.

So you can make money that way. And then, you know, right now, There's the streaming wars going on and everybody is trying to snatch up as much content as they can. And if you look at it, Netflix got busted. They, they part on Netflix man. But see, they've been sleeping on it for a long damn time. Cause they've been thinking that they had a cap on it all.

And then next thing you know, everybody started, [00:37:00] Disney's like, Hey, by the way, we own every frigging thing. And an HBO's like, except for the things we. Then NBC's like, don't forget about that. I'm like, oh, lost y'all and I up paramount got shit. Yeah. Paramount. I forgot what they own. Oh, damn lot. Shit.

Remember UPN. Yeah. No, I forgot up what they own. They own a lot of shit. You don't even think about it until every, like, until everything came on is a major flight that's mess Netflix up. Cuz the Netflix was like, yeah, we don't own that. So where where's where's the black. That's the thing thing it's EV it's it's spread, it's spread between things, right?

So like BT has BT plus, and that's why Tyler Perry jumped out. Right. But, but somebody who's got B E T though is HBO. No paramount. Paramount. Has there go paramount owns all that black. Content's why I said. UPN UPN. like, if you wanna watch the P if you wanna watch the WB too. Yeah. W they own, all of that broke my heart.

When I realized, I said, God, no one I'm pay my $6 a month. So I get my paramount that's because everything that I grew up watching as a kid is on there. So what do y'all [00:38:00] think is the best streaming site? Paramount. They got Nickelodeon. I almost forgot about that. Yeah. You know, Disney's the bomb because Disney's, Tough's bad.

I'm gonna tell you wild Marvel. They got Marvel. I know they, they Marvel star war, star wars, and star war ain't even to be in the same environment, they be in the same environment. They just bought it. Cause they got money. All of your cultural icons. Yeah. And then when they bought ESPN, I thought they were gonna give ESPN up because there were, there's a bidding war for ESPN.

Disney went ahead. Locked it down because they realized they couldn't give it up. And I was like, y'all really were about to give up ESPN y'all stupid Uhuh. So that didn't don't ever do that. I forgot who was about to buy it. They were about to get bought out. Cause you know, paramount NBC and all this fucking, yeah, we'll buy it.

Y'all want ESPN no more. We'll take it. I'm like stupid. ESPN's like stupid. Stupid anything. The world's gonna go to shit here. Stop watching sports whole. During the pandemic, ESPN had total programming. You know, I was, I was watching corn hole, right? Rock seriously, no playing sports being played. Rock [00:39:00] hill, going on rock hill.

Yo look, the they had the, the, the, the hatchet throwing contest. They had a mullet competition online ESPN. Yeah. Yo remember everybody used to tease about ESPN. Ocho. Yeah. It was a real thing. Yeah. You remember they brought it. Did they remember? They did that for a couple weeks for a Tahoe? I think last, think about two years they did that during this little special to Ocho.

It was fly. So of course they couldn't let it go. So Disney and paramount right now. They, to me, they're the, they're the, that's the competition right now. Absolutely. They fighting Netflix got knocked out. They thought they could win by creating. Content their own content, which was good. Cause nobody was doing it at the time.

They weren't. And, but they didn't own nothing before some of it. Yeah. Here's the thing, all this stuff that they own now, here's the cool. 10 years from now, it's gonna be worth money because the stuff that they, but they didn't own anything previously. So I remember back in the day when Netflix was only on DVD, you had to order yeah.

The DVDs. Oh, all that stuff about it. [00:40:00] That content.

I had, I had like classes, I had film classes that like, like that was the only fucking way you could find it was to go down to the library or get on Netflix, Netflix and try to get it Netflix. You remember that? Yeah. That's for the young kids who don't realize Netflix used to actually come on DVDs and they would nail it to you and they would nail it to you.

And you just pull a little envelope, stick it back together, again, stick it back in the mailbox. Another one show up two days later. Yep. And it was like, it was, and they had, and they had different deals for like how many DVDs you could get at a time. Right. Some people don't realize and they had a. And they kill blockbuster.

This is why watching them get murdered. Yeah, because they kill blockbuster, but their thing of, they never own any content. Right. They just, so they just started making content the past three years, but you know, I will give Netflix credit. Now the one thing Netflix is really good at. And I think they really need to kind of focus a little more on is the documentaries mm-hmm mm-hmm I don't think nobody it's low budget.

Yeah. It's low budget. Yeah. Yeah. They do a really good job of the documentaries. Now Hulu's trying to catch up with them when it comes to the [00:41:00] docs. Now they've had some pretty cool doc stuff, but like, I think that's really the thing that they have over everybody else. Cause like Lulu's still clean. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Netflix can do dirty stuff, right? Yeah. That's why I always like to say Netflix. Yeah. Because Hulu is essentially was, was originally the network. Put Hulu together to distribute their own content before they decide to jump ship and do all this other shit. Yep. That's why I, I feel bad for Hulu because that's where they were all before they all had all their pluses.

Everybody was on a Hulu like y'all, but he was always half assed though. It was always like, well, you can watch three episodes. I know. And then it skips three, and then you can watch the season finale. It's like, why the fuck, what? I want to do that because they still wanted you to get. On the TV and get that ad experience.

You need to enjoy it the way that your parents used to. Yeah, the fuck are you doing it's? No, you get my family to sit down and watch the same. Sit down. Y'all watch this together. Who's.

The bubbles on TV. Y'all keep forgetting. [00:42:00] Y'all gotta keep, y'all gotta mention the floor model TV, cuz remember everybody used to watch that floor model TV you would be sitting around in front of, remember that shit was experience. That was an. Experience the wood on it, the wood grain. You could sit another TV on the speaker part, the little speaker part.

Oh my. So we had the, on the top that you had to turn the little knob and you'd hear the little motor going in. Oh, you hear the antenna? Turn the rotate all the way around. Dang cause like, man, if you wanted, if you wanted to get dang PBS channel 35 at a local PBS station, you had to like stand on one foot and kinda yep.

Well, it was always so hard to get PBS, but they know they were local and they had like, so you have money for the transmitters. It was so weak. The transmitters was so weak. They had like 10 transmitters through the whole state and you. Still have a problem. Get it. Yeah, man, that is the truth. I ain't think about it like that.

That was Ws had that money and they was just pumping it out. Pumping, get that in. Damn. Maybe halfway down to the beach and you still gets that's what used tos down Charleston. So what, yeah, that's some is pumping. They. [00:43:00] I know we got radiation issues from that, that stage. Well, but you know, that's the other thing, is they, the big DM they're living, they, the big DM they're everywhere, everywhere.

They had two different, they had two different station points. Yeah. Because they were sending out Orangeburg and outta Columbia. That's what I had to find. Yep. Yep. Boom. And they was sent everywhere. Yep. So then they could run, they could run to max. I don't know what the hell that bitch. Yeah. The max wattage was then because they used to regulate all that shit.

I'm sure they do now too, but it doesn't matter cuz we just streaming it any fucking way. But again, that's another thing I do. Like I'm not angry at that. That. Breaks down, us taking so much radio waves and stuff like that. I like the streaming. Yeah. I like the streaming. I'm not even angry at that. Like there's some things I don't like that are, that are new school, but that's one of the cool things I do.

Like mm-hmm, . Technically don't have, oh, another thing too, is that your car doesn't have to have a radio signal on the, on the front that can get ripped off or if a little kid jumps on it, break that thing off. Now everybody has these little knobs that go on the top. Yeah, my little, my little sharkfin right there.

That's it little sharkfin that's all you need now. That's how good it is. Yeah. Technology has come a long way. [00:44:00] I remember them ugly ones, some things you suck. Yeah. Remember they break off and no radio. Yeah. And people be riding around with a clothes hanger in their car. Mm-hmm yeah. Yeah. I remember that hard times.

Yeah. Those hard times turn around a bit. Yeah. But with that said, man, I guess we can go ahead. I guess we're, since we're wrapping up season two we just wanted to thank every. Yes. All the fans, you know, people who listen on their recorders as thank you for the guests sponsors. Thank Jake. The Columbia.

Say again, shout 'em out. Shout out to the Columbia museum art. Boom. Mm-hmm make sure I get everybody's names and we'll go back through it. The arts and drafts. Mm-hmm bandaid. Bandaids. Yeah. S and bandaids. True brilliance. Mm-hmm mid Carolina service company law office of Sean Wilson and red rooster sports bar.

And. Yep. Woo. Woo. Woo. And like I said other than that anybody else got anything else to say while we wrap up? Nah, man, I think, I think we're good. Oh, I am getting married September [00:45:00] 9th. Y'all woo. Matter of fact, I gotta get back to the house. At three, we got young ladies come by with our, our clothes for our fitting.

So I gotta do my 15 today. Oh man. I lost like 15 pounds too, man. I got like lost like 2, 2, 2 belt loops. I was up to like two oh, something, 2, 2 0 5 or what it was. Yeah. Like that, that one person told me. I said, I don't know where you were hiding that weight at, but it was up in there. I said, yeah, it's up in there chilling somewhere.

it came out though. So I'm, I'm down like 180 5, 180 7 now. Good. Yeah, man had to get that thing down. Kept us teacher like, Hey, where you up to look like? I was looking like the state puff. Marshmallow man. Yeah, man. So shut fuck up. Cause I'm not used to having that much weight on me. Like even when I played.

Playing weight. So how did you get off? Like one 90, huh? Eating, eating properly water. I take my cow, my cow pills as I like to call on my colostrum. My my, my good Lord. I mess this up. My CMOs. Yeah. CMOs. Yeah, take my little, you charge chip in the back of the camera. No. Cause then when he said I [00:46:00] oddly talking about, yeah, Mike.

And then of course, exercise trying to get my little, doing my little running circuit. And then I've been lifting my little weights and stuff like that, trying to make sure I'm doing right, trying to lay off eating too much sugary sweets. I do like sugary sweets, but not as much as I used to actually right now, my issue is I like salt.

So I'm trying not to do too much salt y'all I really like crunchy stuff and crunchy stuff usually has lots of, so. And sometimes it's fried. So we gotta stay away from there, fry stuff. Cause we wanna take it ourselves. Oh, we got little time thing. Yo, that was nice. I was like that real nice. That was real stuff.

They staying on schedule over here. That was, that was dope. Okay. Shout out to Richland libraries. Please do. Yes. Shout 'em out. Shout out. Richland Richmond libraries. Y'all your local library is still in awesome. An amazing place where you can come down and get space to do. I don't know, a podcast or a presentation or whatever the hell you need to do.

And you can get books. Yes. And there's books. Yeah. They still have those access to technology. Shout out the Carolina film studio. Yes. Oh yeah. Those [00:47:00] cats. Great space. Ooh. Also shout out. Who else we have? Who else we had? Man had a great space. Good Lord. I can't even say it right now. It's not gonna come ahead.

I we'll we'll make sure we hit him later, but I think we hit everything, right? Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to the bonnet. Right there. Walking got ladies, man with that said, man, holding down the hair, texture all with that said we wanna thank everybody.