The Hilltop Glove | Queen & Hittmann Black

[00:00:00] DJ And?: Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Hilltop Glove podcast. Today we had the pleasure of speaking with Tanisha Hall, also known as Queen It Shall Be, and her husband, chef Martinez, a k a Hitman Black. If you listen to our previous episode, number nine, queen is a poet and activist, I mean art activist, host, media personality, event planner, and owner of, in all seriousness, a K A I A S games.

She is a self-taught board game developer of Hillman, the Game, a board game influenced by the eighties show a different world. Mm-hmm. , thank you for joining us. How are y'all doing today? And 1 thing before I keep rolling. I bought that game. I like that game. Yes. I love that game. Yes, we are up here. I did get on that Twitch stream.

Watch y'all play the games. Oh my God. Yeah. My lady with me and my wife. Watch it. Yo. Yes. Dope right here. Dope. We support. Yes. Then we support. Yes. And then of course across Man. Now film back cuz I gotta get a plate. Yes he does. Yes. Mike. Beat us up about that. Get that plate. And I'm up here looking, trying to catch the timeline so I know when to get a plate.

Yeah. I gotta get on my game so I can [00:01:00] get me a plate. Yes. But we do have the awesome Chef Martinez, aka a Hitman Black also when he is recording with us today. So this is our first episode where we actually have a couple on here talking. Y'all we're extremely excited about this. Yes. So we're gonna edit a little bit of what we're doing, cuz this is a little bit on the fly.

Mm-hmm. . But we do want to get both of 'em in here speaking and talking today so that everybody who listens to our show can get something from this and we'll get. Two different areas covered today for the price of one. I hear that. That's right. Excellent. So just starting off, man, how are you all doing today?

[00:01:33] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Doing great. Thank you so much for having me and us now. Yes. 

[00:01:37] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Shake that off. 

[00:01:39] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I'm excited. I had so much fun the last time. Yes, ma'am. On the podcast and I follow y'all and I share every podcast that y'all got going on. We appreciate it. I was like, I'm gonna be back up there. I've been missing the meetings.

making me feel away, but I'm so happy to be here. You thank you. Thank you for doing this. Period. Yes. 

[00:01:58] DJ And?: Hold on. I [00:02:00] remember what I'm one of our guests on our last recording, he told us, he said, man, you all gotta remember you all are the best platform in the Carolinas. Mm-hmm. for Carolina folk to come on, to expose itself, to make sure that they're promoting themselves well, because we're gonna give you a.

Honest chance to tell your side. Yeah. We aren't, we aren't sensationalized, we don't do that type of stuff. We're here for learning and improvement. Yes. And so we try to keep it that way. And manam, anytime we're dealing with folks who are entrepreneurs and who are out here moving and shaking that, one thing we always try to do is teach.

And of course our podcast is about learning how to adult because we know it's hard to dot out here, be correct up. Staying individuals, especially citizens in your community. Right. And so we all need some help teaching, education and mentorship when it comes to doing that. And the best way to do it is each one teach one, which is why y'all are here today.

Yes. So just starting off, man. Yeah. Last time we spoke it was at the beginning of the pandemic. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Think like That's crazy. Been that long. [00:03:00] Yeah. Yeah. The beginning of the pandemic. So since then we've had a lot that has changed since now and then, so would you all mind explaining some of the stuff that has changed in your life and some of the experiences that you went through during the pandemic and where we are now?

Because this is a good little wrap up on that. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. 

[00:03:14] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. Oh, you wanna start? Yeah, go 

[00:03:17] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: ahead. You can start. Well a lot of things has changed. Just people, , you know, people has changed, you know certain I really don't know how to describe it. I've been in the house

That's what I'm, that's why like, I just, that's been watching changing, right? I just been watching from the sideline. Just, you know, watching everything just go by. Just like, wow, this is really, it's really going like that. 

[00:03:44] DJ And?: So, have you seen things slowing up or, or, or speeding or slowing down or speeding up?

Since things have started to relax on the, the pandemic restrictions and stuff, nothing 

[00:03:58] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: really slowed down. 

[00:03:59] DJ And?: No, that's what I [00:04:00] was wondering. Cause it seem 

[00:04:00] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: like, yeah, like everybody been moving the same way as if everything has been. Great. Yeah. 

[00:04:07] DJ And?: This's. What I want people to know about the black community, things affect us differently, right?

[00:04:11] Skip: Yeah. 

[00:04:12] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: I'm saying, I've just been sitting there just watching them like, you're like, oh, okay, , so y'all really about Oh wow. You really about to do that? Okay. 

[00:04:21] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Mm-hmm. So we just gonna act like it didn't. Oh, okay. Okay. I, mm-hmm. . . 

[00:04:25] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. It's 

[00:04:26] DJ And?: been chilling, man. Mm-hmm. . I know for us, one of the biggest things, and as you could tell this is a big change for us, is we're actually meeting people in person Yeah.

To do interview. Yeah. Yeah. And it's great because we spent time and money and especially getting certain equipment so that we could do this in person with folks to make sure everything is on. Point up to par. But we were so used to doing the virtual. Yeah, yeah. We got so used to like, I'll get up, I know I'm not going anywhere.

I said, I'm gonna sit right here in the until my top blah, blah. Mm-hmm. . But it is refreshing now getting back out and going out and mixing and mingling. And I told Kevin, [00:05:00] like I don't get, I don't get to do this much during the week because normally, you know, work, do my work, get home, handle work, business, et cetera like that.

 Sit with my wife, figure out what we want to do, et cetera. And then usually by that time we're packing up, getting ready to go to sleep again and wake up and do this all over again. Monday through Friday, grind, grind. But on Saturdays, this is always my fun time. Yeah. Yeah. This is my time. Gotta have fun.

Do what I want to do. Yeah. Like Kevin will tell you, I'm a creative person since I like to go and listen to music and DJ and stuff like that, and I haven't had the opportunity to do that normally. Right. Yeah. Especially since I up here with the pandemic, I haven't had that chance. So this has become my outlet to express myself and speak with folks.

So, One of the things that I'm happy about with, with, that has changed since the pandemic since we last spoke is being here. Yeah. Yeah. Being here out in person. And I know, I'm excited about that. How about y'all? I 

[00:05:47] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: feel the same with listen, when I go to the supermarket, it feel like a holiday, like it feel like a vacation because being in the house was so long for, for a while, for me specifically, I, I didn't wanna go anywhere.

I was terrified of [00:06:00] everything. Mm-hmm. , I didn't wanna go outside. You remember? Talk about that. Right? I, I was, I was perfectly fine being in the bubble. Yep. If I could be in a bubble, got a little bit of glitter, I'm good. I ain't gotta do shit. The glitter. Yeah, the glitter too much. But now that I get to, you know, I go out glitter.

I still don't take my mask off. I don't like mm-hmm. , I, Ooh Lord. No, you're fine. I'd rather not. And I'm cool with that, but like, just simple things. Yeah. You really realize just how much little things matter. Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't even like I felt like outside was taken from us or whatever because I'm, I'm, I could be real cool and solitude if I need you.

Yeah. I'm good, 

[00:06:36] DJ And?: man. By myself. Yeah. What? Yes. That's how tough. I like being 

[00:06:39] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: by myself. Real good. I was uhhuh, I was surprised actually, because I'm such a communal person. I'm not like to have events and, you know, we like to chit chat with folks and we love to feed people. So that was, I 

[00:06:51] DJ And?: know, that's, that's what I was asking you.

Like that's the difference. Yeah, man, we take a 

[00:06:55] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: slope. I rap. I didn't care. , you still 

[00:06:58] DJ And?: feeding them 

[00:06:58] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: people? I wrap my [00:07:00] face up. I was like the last man on earth smoke. That's gonna be, know what I'm saying? I'm taking the bulk of everything. Like you ain't gotta go to the store. I go to the store. He was the one.

Yep. You ain't got I'm going. Yep. Because I ain't. Pen. Huh? ? 

[00:07:13] DJ And?: What's that? What is that? What are you talking about? 

[00:07:16] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Sound to me like we just need to be safe and watch our back. No saying do right? 

[00:07:20] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: I'm saying because if you roll with the almighty, you know what 

[00:07:24] DJ And?: I'm saying? You ain't really, ain't got no fear.

That's how I was thinking. That's that's how I was think it took me a minute to get there. No, it, I mean, what are you supposed to do? Yeah. Yeah. There's something that's an unknown threat. Mm-hmm. , you, you can't identify, don't know how to Yep. Anybody knows, Hey, I gotta work off of information. If I don't have any information, I gotta be as safe as possible, right?

Mm-hmm. , so I totally understand that. And like, I was, I was teasing my wife about this, but I was like, man, I'm gonna keep wearing me a mask anyway. She said, why? I said flu. I was like, I, one thing I realized during the pandemic is I didn't, I have not been sick in three years. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . And I already know I washed my hands.

Do all this stuff. Cause [00:08:00] grandma done taught us well, but Yeah. I realized that I see why those little Asian folks, why they be having they little masks on over there in Japan and over in Asia because you really, it keeps the sickness down cuz you aren't getting all that other stuff in your, in your face and breathing everything in, so.

Right. I'm doing, it just is not limited to Covid. I'm speak on it. Yes. I'm good with it. I like being able to breathe. Yeah. Good stuff. No congestion. 

[00:08:22] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. Mm-hmm. , I'd like to not pass out and go away. Please. I'd like that. Please don't do that. If I could, yes. If I could just keep doing, you know, good stuff.

I'm cool 

[00:08:30] Skip: with him. No, and I think that's the thing. I remember when it first happened. I remember especially like, cuz at time, you know, my wife was pregnant at the time, , I know I'm hitting the mic now and didn't 

[00:08:42] DJ And?: main 

[00:08:43] Skip: head. Yeah. And I remember when it first happened, cause like I said, she was pregnant at the time and I think she was about two, three months.

Mm-hmm. . And I remember we went into, of course we were, you know, we were like, okay, well we wear a mask and stuff like that. And so we started getting masks and we had that. But [00:09:00] I think we went to the store like around April, we went into Kroger. So I think I was meeting up with her. We went into Kroger and I think someone bumped into her, oh my Lord, hey, you know how le you know how my wife is?

And somebody bumped into her and then with everything going on, and of course with her having the baby, yeah. Her just realizing she was pregnant, it was like all the sudden that just like it's a snap. Mm-hmm. . And she was like, I'm not going anywhere. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . And so from. April until literally until. . Our daughter was born.

Told Yeah. That in, in September we didn't go anywhere. Like we didn't go inside of a building. Nope. Yeah. At all. So we were locked down. For 

[00:09:41] DJ And?: real? Yeah. So it was like they did all shipping, 

[00:09:43] Skip: you remember Instacart, all of that, right? Yeah. We were doing all that. Like we couldn't even see nobody. We saw 

[00:09:48] DJ And?: the distance.

We saw em from the distance. Yeah. You broke parked outside the house and they jumped way out and see, just to check, make sure everybody's good, 

[00:09:56] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: you know? Nah, my man, the first foot, [00:10:00] the first month, the pandemic jumped off my, I Robby. The first two weeks was the first, the first two weeks, my cousin, he was, man, he came outta the house.

He rolled by the house and hopped out. The man, Hey, come, what's going 

[00:10:11] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: on? What? I'm sitting up been like, Hey, wait. Hold on man. You can't be over here right now. What you doing? ? Black 

[00:10:20] Skip: police about to black. Black you. 

[00:10:22] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Right, right. Yeah. He had to think about it real quick. He had to look at me and be like, what?

[00:10:25] DJ And?: Oh, we can't do that. No, we can't do No, no. Reverse that reverse 

[00:10:29] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: verse. Yeah, man. Well, he came with the party boy. I was like, man, look up. No, 

[00:10:34] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: no, we can't do that. I'm okay. 

[00:10:37] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: No. You know, we gotta rethink some things. You 

know? 

[00:10:40] DJ And?: It's like man. Right. You know, it takes us a little longer to adjust the things like that in the black community.

Cause about they like, yo, after it happened, we was just out on the block. We 

[00:10:49] Skip: were just like, you 

[00:10:49] DJ And?: okay here? I'm okay. Yeah. Well, we go get my black mama chill. Right. You chilling. I'm chilling up. Dream chilling. And then when we later such and such got sick, I said, I'm, I'm gonna go sit in the house. Right. I'm gonna sit, I'm gonna sit in the house.[00:11:00] 

I'm make sure I can breathe. Right. No. Right. No, because like no one knew what was going on. We didn't know how it was happening. We just knew that in order to keep ourselves in a safe situation, , we had to limit our contact with folk. Mm-hmm. , because one thing that messed me up during this whole time was that people were being, how do you say, how, what's the word?

Indignant about not being clean. Mm-hmm. . , because they just wanted to buck the system. So you see people now I work at a hospital facility. People going into the restroom come out. No, you just did a boo boo. I know that was a number. No washing. I ain't no washing it. I'm sitting in the toilet. No water moving per the door.

[00:11:45] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I don't wanna 

[00:11:45] Skip: play no more. Just through contrarian like that. Out, like before Covid, I would wash my hands. Cause y'all told me I need to wear a mask. I, I'm washing my hands, 

[00:11:54] DJ And?: not wearing a masks. Stupid. Who didn't? No grandparents, you know, you know. [00:12:00] Yeah. We go ahead. We know. We know. You know what that is.

You know what that is. You 

[00:12:04] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: know what that is. 

[00:12:06] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. And 

[00:12:07] Skip: I, but I think though, the biggest thing for me that I realized, and actually this kind of actually reminded me of the game mm-hmm. itself. And I remember before before 2020, I remember. You all would do events. I remember this is before Taps closed.

Mm-hmm. , you guys would do the events at Taps all the time, people hanging out. And I remember I would see stuff like the events and I was like, I always wanted to try to go out to the events, but something would always happen and I would always like have it like, oh, I can't make it. Or, or Mike would tell us about it.

It was like Mike, so you always gotta go check it out. And one of the things I realized, especially once we started doing the podcast and stuff was how. , like amazing events or opportunities we actually missed out on connecting with people face to face. Yeah. Mm-hmm. and how much we took those things for granted.

Mm-hmm. . Cause it was like, oh, well they're always doing something, so I guess I'll just go to the next one later. Right. And that's what I would do. [00:13:00] Even like when it came that like, so when you're doing the game nights, and I always thought about that and then when we interviewed you and we were talking about that, I was like, man, you know, it was so many opportunities for me to go out in person, actually, like I said, to meet with you all to participate and to have fun and to actually experience it in person.

But with everything going on, it's like, Can't do that. Right. And so it's like you just realize all these, these amazing opportunities you missed out on mm-hmm. . And so one of the things was, was like, especially once things opened up, I was gonna be a lot more mindful about supporting individuals in my community who are doing awesome, incredible things and actually showing up to events and being more mindful of that.

Yeah. And that's one of the biggest things that I've gotten out of it. Especially like I said, once we start doing the podcast, we start interviewing people. That's what it made me realize, like mm-hmm. , we gotta start making more of our, much more of our time. Especially once we're able to get back out and interact with people.

[00:13:51] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. Yeah. Cause I agree. Mm-hmm. , I know we within the pandemic we've actually made. a whole lot of better connections with [00:14:00] people. Mm-hmm. , because we've had the absence of being face-to-face. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like we take more care of Oh, you work harder of just, you know what I'm saying? Like, we have a lot of friends on that we met from Twitch, from streaming on Twitch.

Mm-hmm. , yeah. Wow. Good friends. Like really, really good people that we would not have even thought about, had not been forced to sit our ass down . And like, I'm, 

[00:14:23] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie to you. I like being by myself. Yes. See, that's, I'm saying I don't mind, I can, you know what I'm saying?

As long as I got my, you know what I'm saying? And I got my video game. Good. I'm cool. Cool. Yes. You know, but, you know, she was like, well, you gotta talk 

[00:14:42] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: to people . So, 

[00:14:44] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: so I was like, she's like, what? Yeah. I was like, why and why? And you know, I finally did Twitch and, you know, started reaching out and stuff like that.

And it is, It's pretty good. It's a 

[00:14:56] DJ And?: good community. So how do, how do you use Twitch? How do you all use [00:15:00] Twitch? What's your 

[00:15:01] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: So he actually is the one that started, I'm the one that brought, 

[00:15:04] DJ And?: that's what I was wanted. Cause he's a gamer. Yeah, 

[00:15:06] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: we we're both gamers. But he's the one that I, I brought it up cause I was like, Ooh, this would be fun.

Cause I don't have no problem being on camera. I'm extra, I'm the like, that's 

[00:15:15] DJ And?: how the communicate him again. 

[00:15:17] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: What are they doing? Let's go over there. I'm that guy and he's more. Nah, we good. So I was Yes. In the shadows, right? in the shadows over that face. When, I'll tell you, when I used to do a lot more spoken word and we had shows mm-hmm.

you would see me cause I'm the poet on stage. He was always somewhere you couldn't see him. But he was some where and when it was time for him to be right there, he'd be right there. Like, yeah, you are. You cia, no . , 

[00:15:48] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: nah. Just grew up in the streets. Understood. I 

[00:15:51] DJ And?: how to move. He know, said , he knows how to move.

Yeah. 

[00:15:54] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: So when I brought it up, he was like it's okay. And I said I think what I [00:16:00] said to you was, well, you always wanted to, you know, get paid to play video games. And he was like, mm-hmm hmm. Yeah, what you mean? I said, well, yeah, you know, people could donate to the channel and, and it's true. Don't say they'll support you.

And he. All right. Whatever. So when we started, we didn't have the setup, like the computer, the lights, laptop, nothing. Yeah. Yeah. He had his phone, Uhhuh and he pointed his phone up with the Twitch app. He would print it up to the tv. I didn't have iPhone four. 

[00:16:24] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: iPhone Apple, iPhone four. Yes. Wow. This is in today's, that's what I'm saying.

That's a whole iPhone at the beginning of the pandemic. Two years ago. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Two years. It was 

[00:16:34] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: crazy. 

[00:16:34] DJ And?: Think about two. Alright, 

[00:16:36] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: go ahead, . I pointed my phone up against the big screen. Yeah. And I was just talking and it looked like you was there. The 

[00:16:43] DJ And?: real thing. 

[00:16:44] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. Wow. So I started from the bottom, like from PS three from streaming on the PS three.

Yeah. 

[00:16:51] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: My iPhone. Cause you can't directly stream from 

[00:16:53] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: screen on the iPhone, but you can stream from the phone itself. The app. The app. So [00:17:00] I would flip my phone and then have the camera zoomed directly at the phone. Yeah. At the screen. And it looked exactly like the real thing. 

[00:17:10] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Well, except for the days of it was crooked.

But that was even funnier. Cause you watching him turn it back, people be like, oh. And then, and then other people would seem like, oh, I could do that. I could do that. You know what I'm saying? I don't 

[00:17:19] DJ And?: need, because you think you would need to have 12, $12,000 worth of equipment to get it popping. Or $2,000 computer 

[00:17:26] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: figured it out.

Wow. He did it first 

[00:17:29] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: and then, and then I came up to the PS4 with somebody that I met on Twitch. Okay. Which was my homeboy from back. Oh 

[00:17:38] Skip: yeah. So my question is, so what did you, so what did 

[00:17:40] DJ And?: you play on? Yeah. What games are we playing? Gta. . See . Smart. Smart. Cause it's a full life story. That's what I'm saying.

Gta 

[00:17:48] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yo and his 

[00:17:49] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: commentary. 

[00:17:50] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Oh my. When I moved up I started playing. Days Gone. Okay. Yeah. And that's when I got on cuz you know, I would make up stories and commentary about it [00:18:00] and stuff like that. And I don't know what it was about that game, but I just submerged myself into the game. Yeah. And it was just everything.

No camera. 

[00:18:09] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. No camera, no nothing, no nothing super fancy. Just talking and, and the people would talk back. So you are really 

[00:18:16] DJ And?: Yeah. Interac real conversation with this 

[00:18:19] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: having real conversation. 

[00:18:19] DJ And?: So you were like ho you know, host, host. Yeah. Yeah, 

[00:18:22] Skip: yeah. And you know what's funny about Twitch? And this is what makes me laugh cuz I always gonna remember this, it's certain things we don't even think about that we always did.

Mm-hmm. growing up or things we were always into, we didn't realize. Could be turned into something much bigger. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. So, so growing up like it's three, so it's, it's, well three, three brothers. Mm-hmm. , so it's myself, my brother, and then our younger brother. But then we had three stepbrothers. Yep. So it was five of us, well, six of us, six five.

One of the things we used to always do was, especially me and my younger brother, We used to always love watching him play the [00:19:00] game. Yeah. Like we would watch him play the game for entertainment. Mm-hmm. Yep. Like even though, cuz we knew he was the best game player, like when it came to R ppg, like when it came to like things like Zda and stuff like that, he 

[00:19:11] DJ And?: was the dude that 

[00:19:12] Skip: could beat the 

[00:19:12] DJ And?: game.

Right. Without a man, you know, hood, we ain't there man. And I remember 

[00:19:19] Skip: we would set up and it would be, like I said, it would just be our story. But we would sit up and it'd be like a Friday night, Saturday night. You know, you're like 9, 10, 11 years old, you can't go nowhere. You know, you playing the game.

Right. 

[00:19:30] Skip: And so we used to just sit there and just watch him play the game for entertainment. Yeah. 

[00:19:35] DJ And?: Like that was And listen. And listen to cd, listend. Jvc. Yeah. It the, you know I'm talking about, come on, you know what I'm talking 

[00:19:43] Skip: about. You know what I'm talking about. And when I twitched, when Twitch started getting big, I was like, God darn it.

I was like, we do this shit when we were kids. Right. Do it now. What you mean? I know what I saying. Didn't, that's the thing. But 

[00:19:56] DJ And?: we didn't. 

[00:19:57] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Right. 

[00:19:58] DJ And?: You never collect, [00:20:00] tell, don't collect it. You don't put that same Cause it's so pure. Same thing with YouTube. 

[00:20:03] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. The same thing with YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Back in the day.

Mm-hmm. , you used to like laugh and do stuff with your homeboys and crack jokes stuff and all this other stuff and it would never be recorded. Never. It be like never funniest shit you ever heard in 

[00:20:18] DJ And?: the world? Yeah. 

[00:20:20] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: YouTube come out and then it's like your parents is like, you know, look at other stuff or do something else.

Like they just think that it's not, not real. The move. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Few years later, everybody's on YouTube and like, your stuff could have been there, but 

[00:20:38] DJ And?: building up mm-hmm. , building up. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm . 

[00:20:41] Skip: Yeah. And especially you think about, especially growing up, especially growing up the way we grew up, especially black.

Yeah. You know, our thing is, and it's so funny cause I think about things like TikTok and I think about viral stuff cuz everything we. Was essentially viral in nature because think about it, we had jokes, but they would be running jokes within our crew. [00:21:00] Right, right. You think, like you said, it'd be running themes and these are things we would keep up for a couple balls.

That's something else. Mm-hmm. It'd be another thing that be funny. We'd play off of that four couple ball. Right. Movie, but we never thought about it like that. Yeah. Because, and I guess maybe it's a generational thing too, because we didn't necessarily grow up with a screen in front of us all the time.

Mm-hmm. , because you know lot so much. What we did was just outside. Right. You know, so we living out in real world. Yeah. It's like, yeah. We had, you know, s we had Super Nintendo, we had PlayStation, but you know, we still wanted to go down the street and play ball. Mm-hmm. , you know what I mean? We still wanted to go hang out.

That's what 

[00:21:32] DJ And?: I wanted do right now. 

[00:21:33] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: We had our parents say, get off the game while you're stepping with the game. Yeah. We encourage our kids. We got a son right now, our middle boy. Mm-hmm. . We be like, yo, when you. like cuz when he's not streaming, he's hilarious. We've heard him and his friends, we'd be like, what are you doing?

Why don't you have 

[00:21:48] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: a chance? It's hard. Like why don't you, the friends actually encourages him. Mm-hmm. . They're like, yo, your parents 

[00:21:55] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: are cool. . Say your parents want you to stream. What are you doing? [00:22:00] Why 

[00:22:00] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: not doing it stream? They're not telling you to go out there and get a job and work and save and all those other stuff and resent like the actual structure of working.

Yeah. We're telling you to stream and build your own type of 

[00:22:15] DJ And?: thing. It's like forethought. Yeah. It's like he's not real. This is forethought. Like, yeah, this is good what you're doing. Right. Keep doing it. Yeah, 

[00:22:21] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: keep 

[00:22:22] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: doing it. I think he thinks that it's a trick. I 

[00:22:25] DJ And?: swear as soon as he started doing, y'all take the game away.

I think that's what 

[00:22:28] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: he thinks. But we were like, we told 

[00:22:30] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: serious don't stream. We taking the game. 

[00:22:33] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: We did because we Cause, yeah. Okay. For one. I'm noticing like community is real and like Yeah. You know, people form their own families, not necessarily by blood. You, you know your brother. True? Mm-hmm. is your brother True.

When, when your brothers, brothers, when you decide your brothers, that's your brothers. So his friends that are like brothers, we know their parents and stuff like that. They're like, you know, we'll help you get it. And they helped him get his computer. Oh, 

[00:22:59] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: his [00:23:00] friends got together, put, put together money, money together 

[00:23:02] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: and got him a.

So we were like, that's community. What's not going be is look at your friends stooping in the face. Oh, I see. And not go streaming. What you're gonna do is every, like, we're here. And then he started, he has a twi, all of our kids have a Twitch channel. Actually three of our four kids have twi. You know what y'all thing?

[00:23:19] DJ And?: Y'all just made him college. Y'all made him college savings plans. Not even know it. Gotta go to college, man. What you doing? You make, you already got a business. 

[00:23:26] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: We told 'em all the time. I worked my ass off to be miserable. I worked real hard to be unhappy, real hard. So you can take a fraction of that and put it towards being happy and watch out with Mo.

[00:23:37] DJ And?: Thank you Millennials. Thank you. Try millennials. Thank you for thinking different, thinking differently than the generation before us. Yes. 

[00:23:43] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Listen, we were going down bad, 

[00:23:45] DJ And?: seriously 

[00:23:46] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: trying to stress us out. I didn't have games like that in my house. Like I had a Nintendo speak on it and 

[00:23:51] DJ And?: I had speak on it. . 

[00:23:53] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: I had the Nintendo up until like seventh, eighth grade.

Okay. [00:24:00] And then by that time, Nintendo 64 had came out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. , Nintendo 64. What's the console I had up until I was a grown ass man? Wow. I didn't buy no consoles. No none of that shit. Mm-hmm. because coming up like, you going to work, you gonna go to school. 

[00:24:22] DJ And?: True. Oh yeah. We don't get get play playing 

[00:24:24] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: game like that.

You ain't playing no games, like none of that. Mm-hmm. . So I didn't start like gaming again until I met her. Mm-hmm. . 

[00:24:32] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Wow. Yeah, because I was gaming. Oh, you're like the game. Actually, the first game we played together was Soul Caliber. Yeah. Was so that's a dope game. Yeah. One of my favorites. That was brief cuz after, after he learned it, he was whooping my 

[00:24:45] DJ And?: behind

Oh. So once you got caught up the speed, he was like, oh, what? 

[00:24:49] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: He took over over and just like you said, I would watch him play, I'd watch him play any game. I've watched him play God of war. I just be saying, God of war is a 

[00:24:56] DJ And?: fly game, man. Just all of, that's only reason why I want to play Station. [00:25:00] I don't even wanna play.

I'm good. I can get every other game. My Xbox, PlayStation of God award. That's why I was here for it. That and uncharted. That is 

serious. . 

[00:25:08] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I got excited cause that's his other game when he played Uncharted. Somebody watch him play uncharged. 

[00:25:14] DJ And?: It's crazy. It's a movie. It is a whole movie. It's a movie. It has great dialogue and everything.

Storylines on point. Mm-hmm. , you saying I'm talking to, I'm a Xbox guy. I'm up here talking about like I'm playing it. I watching, I watch gameplay on YouTube. Hey, good 

[00:25:27] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: game. I want us to get in Xbox, but I can't get in the Xbox man. 

[00:25:30] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: You will 

[00:25:31] DJ And?: when you get it. No, my, our brother, our youngest brother rash, she actually one put us on Xbox cuz to be honest, we were, we were basically, we were PlayStation and Nintendo people.

Yeah, that's, we had Nintendo, we had a PlayStation. We was in Charles in Charleston. I'll play my little PS two play. Heck out the little PS two. Yeah. And then Xbox took over. We had Xbox 360. Mm-hmm. and then that Xbox One. But that big brick ugly black one. Yeah, the first one I was not a fan. Yeah. That's worst.

I ain't like that ain't messing. I'd rather play the game cube. [00:26:00] That's how it real was at the time. I'd rather play game. That's serious. I'll tell you 

[00:26:02] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: how I, not serious. I played well. My thing was PC games. I'm a Sims person. I'm 

[00:26:09] DJ And?: serious. That 

[00:26:11] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: makes sense. I love yourself. The builder. I got all the old sims.

I have those old strategy guys that share. I have all, I got all the cheap codes and stuff. And, and that was my thing. That'd be pretty much the only PC game I ever play. But if I get to build something to watch a work old, that's it. You ain't gonna see me for hours. Wow. Leave me 

[00:26:30] DJ And?: alone. That's, those are, those are the type of games that I would like our, especially in our community, like to enjoy and play with more because it teaches you real.

Use like mm-hmm. like tool tricks. Yeah. Like you can literally learn how to plan something. How things supposed to work. Yes. How they're supposed to operate. And I think that's why he liked him. Yes. Yeah. That's why I 

[00:26:47] Skip: loved it. Because you know what, man, like, people don't get like, you learn zoning. Yeah. 

[00:26:51] DJ And?: You zoning.

Right. Exactly. 

[00:26:53] Skip: From 

[00:26:54] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: city zoning. That's why I wanna have a city. I know, I know. But like watching the [00:27:00] infrastructure and what, you know, how how far something needs to be for the ocean in order for certain turbines to work. Like I, I, I look through all that. I love it. Yeah. I'm, I'm killing. I am the destroying, I'm, I'm, I'm killing

[00:27:14] DJ And?: I'm killing, what's the target name? With a Target? 

[00:27:17] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yep. G G Call of Duty and Got award, even anything zombie. Like what's 

[00:27:22] DJ And?: your completion rate on g. What's is the, no, you 

[00:27:26] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: finished the, the story. 

[00:27:27] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Oh, I finished pretty much everything. Like, I'm just Wow. 

[00:27:30] DJ And?: Just Oh, you're beast. 

[00:27:32] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. I'm just stacking 

[00:27:33] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: money now.

Yeah. On online? Yeah. Like I'm online stuff. Yeah, man, I gotta 

[00:27:38] DJ And?: get on my website. All right. So man, have the find, you might have play because wait, does it, do they let you do cross-platform on GTA when it comes to online? No. Is it only PlayStation? PlayStation and Xbox. Mm-hmm. that next one it will be cross-platform, I'm certain.

Yeah. Cuz everything else is cross-platform now. Yeah. 

[00:27:53] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Talking about, speaking of cross-platform Fortnite. 

[00:27:57] DJ And?: Just cross by idea. That's why everybody likes [00:28:00] playing it. Mm-hmm. play on anything you get you a switch and play with everybody or with the switch right now. Cause it's hard to get some of the other systems.

And so right now, that's why I'm kind, I'm contemplating getting a switch for myself just because I don't wanna steal my wife's switch all the time to play Zel . And I just like, you gotta, you need hours on. So I'm trying, I'm trying to explain to her, she was like, cause she playing in lacrosse and stuff like that.

Oh. And yo, she loves it. Right? And she was just like, well yeah, you can play it. I'm like, nah, I don't even start. She said, why? Cause I like, I'm gonna need that for 10 hours. Yeah. . And she thought I was joking. No, we took it to her cou, her little cousin house, pj, her little cousin, PJ man, cools, heck, PJ 5, 4, 4 years old.

And going off it was five. It's five now. Four or five going on five, four going on five. But he's in preschool. He's real smart. But he was sitting there and I was just like, Hey, you wanna play a game? We were playing all kinds of games. I was like, you wanna play some Zel? He's like, what's that? I said, oh, I'm about to start an addict

So I gave him Zel. We were playing Zel. I'm showing him how to play it right. He's learning how to ride a horse and doing everything, man. Five minutes later, he took the game over by himself playing the game, did not want to give us the game back. Started crying, begging his, mopping the [00:29:00] game. The boy gonna be addicted to ZE for the rest of his life.

So he's gonna be playing RPGs now. He's gonna be on it. He's gonna be, I wanna get this RPG and play the rpg. But yeah, man, but he'll always remember 

[00:29:08] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: that. He always, he's always, you were the one that 

[00:29:11] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: introduced me. I could tell Nintendo. Ooh. And we could tell who had. About what cartridge you had shut up.

There was three cartridges, if everybody remember. Yeah, theres three different cart. The golden cartridge. Yep. The silver one. Yep. And the regular one. Yep. That's it. Yep. Yeah, it's different verse. It's like whoever had that silver and gold cartridge was the man. Yep. Yep. 

[00:29:39] DJ And?: No, 

[00:29:41] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: look like dead serious. Like there was three different cartridges, I believe.

[00:29:45] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Mm-hmm. . And I remember the gold one, man I to see, you know 

[00:29:49] DJ And?: how much that thing's selling for? Where's the gold game? $55. What? My Lord. I shoulda have kept them damn game. My 

[00:29:59] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Nintendo. Where's [00:30:00] my gold game? Where is my gold 

[00:30:01] DJ And?: game? Look, I'm gonna bother Y'all real. Look at this one. This is one that's in pr. Look how much it go for what I'm telling you.

Don't even mess them people. I ain't even gonna tell y'all, man. I just know it's over $400. I'm gonna tell y'all $400 if you had 

[00:30:14] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: that. Yep. 

[00:30:15] DJ And?: Everybody was at your house. Yep. Yeah. Wow. Kevin, remember we used to go, we, we used to have our, because people, again, they don't understand this. Bring 'em up. The speed.

So back in the day, y'all used to play video games. You used to go over your friend's house. Right. You didn't have all the games you used, used to play the games, go back forth, right? Yeah. And so we used to go to people's houses and be playing games, trading games, et cetera. Mm-hmm. We used to always go over to, to Kevin used to have a couple of friends that we used to go over and play the games at their house.

Yeah. And then I remember there's a bully that lived in our neighborhood named Clifton. Oh. And Clifton wanted, he wanted to be a bully. He wanted to try to fight people. I ain't, I don't deal with no bullies. Yeah, you whoop bullies. Pardon of my French. So I had to beat, I had to beat his ass before, before before we went to school one day and everybody got on the bus.

Yeah, but you whooped his ass. Cause they were, they were scared of Clifton. I was playing with Clifton. I pow bottom clift on the street. Bam, pow bottom. [00:31:00] Get on the bus, everybody's fine. Right. Come back. Clifton's as my door, he's knocking. I'm like, damn, I gotta whoop his ass again. I'm, cause I'm stinking He was coming back to fight, right?

Yeah. This was before, this was like way back the day when kids used to fight. Yeah. We didn't have to shoot nobody and stand nobody with no knives. Right, right. This is when Friday was still. Number one movie in the Bronx's office. Right? Right. . So he comes back over and he just has a bunch of games. I'm like, what?

What you got? These games come like, yo, you got a such and so I'm like, yeah. He's like, you wanna play? I'm like, yeah, sure. Come on 

[00:31:26] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: in , come on, you fighting that? Cool, cool. 

[00:31:30] DJ And?: All the games that's, we been playing games, man. Trade the games back and forth. It it bridge, but, 

[00:31:35] Skip: but nobody talk. But he never, nobody told you how he got the game though.

Nah. 

[00:31:39] DJ And?: I know how he got on , but he was cool with me. 

[00:31:43] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Right. You always had those friends growing up. You knew that you shit have been around. You shoulda been around. They always gave you the 

[00:31:50] DJ And?: cool stuff, yo. So I had no problems with him. I knew he was out there when, when he got older I knew he was out there banging and stuff like that.

But C come on Cliff. You good? You come on. Anytime you, it's my G right there. You good? All [00:32:00] day. But man, that leads us into this question. I guess we gotta ask this now. Man, how much has changed with him in the game since the last time we spoke? 

[00:32:08] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Mm-hmm. Ooh. Since the last time you we spoke I've taken him in the game quote unquote virtual, oh.

Stop. I played the game on Twitch. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, totally. Folks about this. So I've been able to have that interaction with people that, from remote areas. Mm-hmm. , I've played with people from all over the country so far. People in other countries who, who contacted me, I wanna say someone contacted me from Ghana, someone from Ghana.

Saw him in the game. Wow. Yeah. From Twitch. Wow. 

[00:32:42] DJ And?: Twitch. Twitch. Twitch. 

[00:32:43] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Twitch. Twitch looking good. Twitch looking good. Didn't, didn't really know what a different world was, but went and looked, looked it up and saw the show. And then they started watching the tried to find out how they watched the show.

Cause I, I know there's a different way to like, use Websites and some you just can't see it or whatever. [00:33:00] So they were really interested in that. I've been interviewed I've been interviewed on the news here in Columbia. Stop. I knew that. Yeah, I 

[00:33:07] Skip: saw that. You saw that. I saw that. Extra 

[00:33:09] DJ And?: dope 

[00:33:09] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: extra do.

 I I've been really encouraged to continue working on games. I got really close to meeting the cast, which just lets me know that I'm going to get closer mm-hmm. To meeting. You're gonna meet the cast soon? Year and a half. I've been invited to conventions. I haven't gone any, gone to any because Yep.

Panini still out there. And Im, I keep it real, real chill. Keep real tight guys. But more people have come to me to wanna learn how to make their own gains. Have clients now. That's, that's dope. Yes. Yeah. I, I've expanded. My empire to include merchandise. You see, I have on my founder's jacket. I made my own jacket.

That's what I was saw. Yeah, 

[00:33:50] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: I saw that. 

[00:33:51] DJ And?: Oh, yes. Was 

[00:33:52] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: merch that you cool that you go to the website on? Yes. And the merch, right? I started notice 

[00:33:59] DJ And?: [00:34:00] that's what I was looking at and I was, when you came in, I was like, Hold up. How, how did they get that? Yeah. First of all, I was like, did they really sell this?

And I don't know about, and I put two, I'm like, oh, we're talking to Queen today. Yeah. All understood. Yes, I do. I 

[00:34:10] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: got to get some of that, but I do, it's available on the website is games.com. Oh, don't worry about that. Oh 

[00:34:14] DJ And?: no. I started heavy season. 

[00:34:18] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I started I started the Hillman Greek and with my wonderful husband who's been able to help me collaborate on, and we've been able to take the fictional Greek letter associations Yeah.

And turn it into something. So now we have the Alpha, alpha Delta Rowe and the Alpha Delta Rowe Gear. And he designed capital lamb, the news. Oh, stop lines. So what I said was, I was like, okay, so this isn't, this isn't a real sorority or fraternity. No. Oh, I wanna have one. I think we could do this, but what would it be like if we did it?

So I asked him for his ideas and he said, well, you know, this is what I would wear. And he designed the crest, like there's, we had the crest on it and we have a community now for the Hillman [00:35:00] Greek. I've launched more social media. Oh, for? Yeah. A actually, if you type, if you type in slash wait ias games.com/the Hillman Greek, you'll see the whole the, the whole site.

 What else have I done? Ooh, man. Awesome. Created more games. But most importantly, more people have been able to see him and, and just really be excited about the show. 

[00:35:26] DJ And?: That's man, and, and I think that's the number one thing is that spreading that community so that they can understand that culture.

And, and one of the things that really got me about your game that I thought was. Was that you don't need to be an extreme fan of the show. No. To play the game, you don't even have to know what the show is. No, that's what I did with my wife. She ain't never, she didn't really know the show. She knew of a different world and she knows, knows a little bit.

Yeah. And we started playing the game and she was like, oh, I can play this. I was like, yeah, you, oh my gosh, 

[00:35:54] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: y'all played this, you play 

[00:35:55] DJ And?: the game. You the, you ain't got me the hook hooked up version. You signed it and everything. So I'm like, [00:36:00] I actually didn't wanna play it cause I felt bad. I was like, let me order another version to.

I may order another version just to play. Cause I don't want to mess up the board. I was like, I'm gonna keep this one pristine. Right. I'm gonna order another version just so I can just mess up and bring it to people to play. Because he's been over in six, man. Yeah. We fired. I think so. The characters, how the cards are, the money, everything.

You realize how much work you had to put into that. Better. Better. It's better than board games that I bought, that I've bought now of the store per se. Oh wow. It's better. Yeah. 

[00:36:32] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: It's better. I appreciate that. I, I absolutely did work with, you 

[00:36:36] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: can identify with a lot of people on the, 

[00:36:38] DJ And?: that's the point.

Mm-hmm. show. Yeah, you can. 

[00:36:42] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. Even if you've never seen the show Comforting. 

[00:36:44] DJ And?: Yes. Oh my God. I'm about to get me this hoodie. All that is 

[00:36:47] Skip: Kim. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. When you get the hoodie, man, I 

[00:36:51] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: got hoodies, cully socks. Mm-hmm. , 

[00:36:55] DJ And?: all that stuff. Shut up. Y'all up here looking at this thing on this. I mean, it's sharp.

It's sharp. I didn't notice. [00:37:00] I don't know why I wast paying attention socks and all 

[00:37:02] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: of that. Yeah. And then I, I made we have tw tops hots. Y'all got hot tops? Yes. Yep. We do have hot tops. Send 

[00:37:09] DJ And?: them high tops. Get for the ladies right there. The alpha delta rose 

[00:37:12] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: hot tops. And we had the cap lamb, the new flip top flip, flip flops.

Mm-hmm. Those are on there. I know they're there. There they go. There's the cap lamb. The new hot tops too. Cap lamb. The new flip top. Flip flops. 

[00:37:24] DJ And?: We must ask y'all this because again, being the type of show we are, they're gonna ask us, what is your process? How, how did you all come up with this and how do you, what's the, what's the process of getting these items created in source?

Like how did you all figure out that part of the business? Oh. Because I know that's separate from creating a game. 

[00:37:42] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yes, it definitely is totally separate. So I found out from another content creator that made slogan T-shirts. Mm-hmm. graphic T-shirts and stuff like that. And I was wondering how they were kicking them out so fast.

Yeah. We came up with a whole other, like, concept of a shirt from them. Yeah. [00:38:00] And, and my husband wanted to do shirts forever. We wanted to, yeah. I was making stuff for a minute. Yeah. Okay. But we didn't want to have the press. At home. Gotcha. Because then we'd have to have everything. Yeah. We still wanna do it.

Well, right, right. I didn't want it in the house 

[00:38:15] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: school. 

[00:38:15] DJ And?: He like 

[00:38:17] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: fold it up. 

[00:38:19] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: We already had so much equipment in the house for the game. That's what I was 

[00:38:22] DJ And?: wondering. Yeah. A lot of space. Right. It does. , he said I was sweat next to the machine, but, 

[00:38:27] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: but for the variety the creator told us about different websites where you could literally put a design on the shirt and they'll print it and ship it for you.

So that's how we were able to come up with a collaboration and put it on my website so it's completely remote. Good job. Absolutely. 

[00:38:48] DJ And?: Good 

[00:38:48] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: job. 

[00:38:48] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Completely remote, because that's so much the store. I'm 

[00:38:51] DJ And?: gonna get some of slides. So qu question, so , I'm up here looking at this site still source Soul Mason.

Isn't it tight? No, you all did. Excellent. Yeah, no, the reason why we're, [00:39:00] and we're really excited about cuz we're trying to come up and create our own little store like this. Yes. And it's one of the hardest things to do, to think about how you want to actually supply it. Mm-hmm. and how to get the, the designs together and stuff as well.

So y'all had to actually sit through this and spend time. 

[00:39:15] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. Except for the designer. Absolutely. But the website, like, there's print full there's I think Print Plus is another website, but they have everything there and all you really have to do is just put your stamp on it, your design, like they're able, you're able to put your own tags on it and those tags you create 'em Yeah.

You through whatever digital art, art site like Adobe Show, Photoshop, or any other drawing app, I think I use. Ooh. I, I use a bunch of different programs, but that's 

[00:39:46] DJ And?: what I was, that's what the folks are gonna ask. They're gonna ask what kind of programs? Oh, oh, . What you looking at, man? 

[00:39:51] Skip: This, and you guys are amazing.

I'm gonna tell you why. You guys are amazing. You guys are gonna save so many people's lives with this one product. [00:40:00] Which one? What product of you? Stage trading cards. Yes. Wait, you know how people probably got you people probably lost their lives over Re . 

[00:40:08] DJ And?: Wait, 

[00:40:08] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: wait. The fades trading card. That is so something that's coming soon.

Yes. Go cards to iass games slash cut the deck. That is my that's my collection dedicated to 

[00:40:19] DJ And?: stains. Wait, wait. Am I'm 18 years or older? Older. . Yeah. Yo. 

[00:40:25] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. Yep. So coming. 

[00:40:27] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Cause everybody's, everybody wanna know the plane. They won't tell nobody. And, and everybody's afraid to get stabbed or shot or, or, right.

That's a true story, y'all. Or Disowned. Disowned. Right? Disowned. That's it right 

[00:40:41] DJ And?: there. Properly. That's the one cutting books, right? And reneging 

[00:40:44] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: like, yes. Yeah. So I'm, I'm working on that. That'll be dropping soon. It's actually gonna be called The Spades Coach. Oh. And it will include especially design cards to help you identify which ones are the [00:41:00] spades and which ones are not.

So you can kind of like teach yourself and it will come with a board. So that, cause I like taking TikTok games of board games. Yeah. I can tell. I was like, why isn't there a board for it? That 

[00:41:11] DJ And?: is true. The board, that's so 

[00:41:13] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: that people can, lord. Yeah. 

[00:41:15] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Lay your books down. Yeah. Lay your 

[00:41:16] DJ And?: books down, Lord, 

[00:41:17] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Lord.

Mm-hmm. . Yeah. All that. Yeah. And it's, it's for training, so it's like if you wanna take it to a house party where people already know how to play, you can. But if you want to learn on your own and kind of keep it to yourself and then show up and be like, wow, now I know what I'm doing. My, and they don't know how you did it.

Yeah. 

[00:41:33] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: It's, there you go. It's, it's so much to it to where you can almost turn it into another game itself. Yes. That's 

[00:41:40] DJ And?: what I'm saying. That's life. No one's ever thought about putting this on board. Yeah. You know how long black people been around. Mm-hmm. , we ain't never thought about putting this on board, , 

[00:41:48] Skip: but it goes back to what we were talking about earlier.

Mm-hmm. . Right. There's so many things that we've always done. Yeah. In our culture. Very true. That other people, Always see it. [00:42:00] Mm-hmm. and they just kind of extrapolate from it value, and they, and they bring the con, they, they bring the, they see the value in it and they bring in a product or a service based off of that.

Like, so a couple days, well, actually yesterday, so in my nine to five, I work with djj, department of Juvenile Justice. Mm-hmm. and I work with, they called a career readiness center. So part of my job is working with youth, helping them to prepare for transitioning back in the community, helping them to work, find a job.

Yep. Helping them, if they wanna go to school, get additional. . But in addition to that, also I serve as a liaison with vocational rehabilitation. Mm-hmm. . Cause I'm re, I'm rehab counseling, my background's my masters. And so part of it is, so I work with cause I used to be a VR counselor. I transitioned over there in April, but I helped do programming and activities based off of what they call pre-K services.

So it's like employment transition services. Mm-hmm. . And so we bring in different vendors to come in and provide training and activities for the youth to help them kind of start addressing some things and to get on the right, you know, get going in their careers. Mm-hmm. . And so we brought in a provider out of Atlanta, Georgia.

They go [00:43:00] by the name of STEM Wars and what they did was they did a STEM day for the kids on campus over on Broad River. And they did four activities. They did robotics, they did drones, they did entrepreneurship, and they did music production. But one of the instructors who actually has the program, his name's William Curry, we're gonna have him on in the next couple months.

But one of the things he was talking with the kids about, because he was showing them how to do the robotics, and operate the drones and some of the kids were just there. Some of 'em were just disinteresting in it and learning how to, or learn and create things. Yeah. And he was explaining to them, he was like, what you guys don't get is people create.

Value off of you all. But you guys are always talking about how you wanna make value or how you want to be rich or how you wanna be paid. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . But people are taking all the things that you guys think are cool mm-hmm. , and they're just selling them back to you. Mm-hmm. , I know, right? Mm-hmm. . But you guys always fail to see that it, every single time you're always in the [00:44:00] same position that you're in.

Yep. That's why it's so genius that you're doing, and it makes sense too, because these are things that we're already doing in our culture. Right. Why don't we learn like under understand the value of it and create those things ourselves as opposed to somebody else from outside of it telling us back what it is we already value.

Dang. 

[00:44:21] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: That's why that's, that's, that's a big cat right there. And that's exactly, think 

[00:44:25] DJ And?: about exactly what it's right. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. They sell our own swag back to us. Yeah. 

[00:44:28] Skip: And that's absolutely, and that's what he was telling them. And the, and the thing is the same thing that they like, They just, okay.

Mm-hmm. . Well this, okay, so, okay, you gonna go out here? We're gonna sell it back. And the sad thing is because you want these things that you like, that they're selling back to you, you end up doing things to get you in trouble, in order to obtain those material possessions. It's yours. That already yours.

[00:44:50] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: That's already yours. Crazy. That's already yours. But you don't know which yours. When you don't know it's yours, you gonna buy you from somebody else. Preach. You don't know what [00:45:00] yours at. I learned a long time ago, especially when it came to developing games that I had a gift. I had the gift to patients.

Mm-hmm. And I had the gift to teach and. Everybody can't teach with patience. Yeah. So when I figured that out, that's why some teachers up here 

[00:45:18] DJ And?: popping their heads upside 

[00:45:19] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: of head, right, right here. That, and when I figured that out and I saw that one of the biggest complaints as far as teaching spades was that nobody had no patience.

They just wanna win. They like to teach you Don, nobody have no patience. Don't know book Many A tables. I just told you where a book was, how you not know where the book was cuz you didn't explain it. You just said, here's the book. Book. Because you already knew it because someone said, you here's the book and you got tired of getting your head knocked upside.

That's the point. Yes. And that's how you learned it. But I'm with gentle teaching and making it, I'm, I'm big on making something fun. If you tell me I can't make it fun, I'm gonna figure it out. Just cause you said so. 

[00:45:51] DJ And?: I like that you said gentle teaching in our community. Please. What? Everything's tough.

Love. We need to have gentle teaching. Mm-hmm. , because [00:46:00] Yeah, you can't be popping those six year old in his head cuz he don't know how the world works. Right. Cause 

[00:46:05] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: the world works. And, and in most cases neither do you preach, preach, preach. So. Right. So I absolutely appreciate the fact that I'm able to put things out there that teach even with him in the game.

Yeah. Like teaching about a show that was, you know, inspired by a culture that wasn't promoted. How? And the fact that, look, it blows my mind every day that I'm a part of something that had people. Rushing to enroll to HBCUs. A show Yeah. Had mm-hmm. . I don't what, what was the percentage of, of, of the year after a different world came out?

That it was crazy was, I mean, it was like wild amount of people that the increase was ridiculous. 

[00:46:48] DJ And?: HBCUs from the show, from the show. It is one of the biggest reasons why after that not to be a con, you know, one of those people, but I am one of those people . One of the reasons after that happened, bill Cosby, [00:47:00] despite his flaws, he became an even more dangerous person.

Mm-hmm. to society at large. Mm-hmm. because, They're like, wait, wait, we just had 'em out here selling crack and we were happy with that. Right. We liked where they were at. Right. Why are they leaving the blocks? Yeah. Hey, you come here telling them that they don't have to sell crack. Why 

[00:47:17] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: y'all want to 

[00:47:17] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: learn that part?

Yes. How dare That's that Lexington 

[00:47:21] DJ And?: sounding voice. That's lot slur. 

[00:47:26] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: wanna learn. Yeah. Yeah. But that, but that's it. And that's why I teach people how to, you know, make their own games. Cuz you know, you might have a concept for something that didn't nobody else think about or someone thought about. True.

True. And you wanna know how to put it onto a game in order to introduce someone. Mm-hmm. to mm-hmm. , a different outlook. Mm-hmm. or just something. I like to take them what's familiar and introducing something that's unorthodox. That's what you with, 

[00:47:50] DJ And?: you don't hear. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Right. See, 

[00:47:52] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: see.

So you don't, don't see a whole lot of black women making board games because normally no. Society with the board games. You think older ci sis [00:48:00] hetero white male board or, 

[00:48:02] DJ And?: or dun and Dragon Parker Brothers. Yeah. Parker Brothers or Monopoly. 

[00:48:05] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Monopoly. Yeah. That's too much where you go to the 

[00:48:07] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: board. White.

Yeah. . That's, that's all I hear. Yt, pretty 

[00:48:11] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: much, pretty much. Fifties were sitting around, you know? Yeah, exactly. Sitting around the radio playing shoots, 

[00:48:16] DJ And?: ladders or whatever it was. I know. It ain't nothing wrong with board games and I like 

[00:48:20] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: them board games too. I looked up the history of board games. I, because I love, I love board games and just games in general.

Mm-hmm. and they were always put out there to teach something and entertain and pass time. Yeah. 

[00:48:31] DJ And?: That is a lesson. Mm-hmm. , 

[00:48:33] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: we watched that 

[00:48:34] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: lesson. Yeah. Oh yeah. That, that was, that was the toys that changed America. The toy, the toys that changed America. Documentary. Mm-hmm. , 

[00:48:41] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: it's on, 

[00:48:42] DJ And?: Hulu is crazy. The toys that shaped America.

Check it out on, it's pretty 

[00:48:46] Skip: good. 

[00:48:47] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yep. 

[00:48:47] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: It's really good. Yeah. Like just, just the mind frame these guys had to have in order to like make these games and make it 

[00:48:56] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: stick. Mm-hmm. . that was, that was 

[00:48:59] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: different. [00:49:00] 

[00:49:00] DJ And?: They had to like promote it and actually put it into the public. I learned 

[00:49:04] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: so much that, so the first board game in the US was created by someone who used to make posters of Abraham Lincoln before he had a beard.

Yeah, that's even stranger. That's just because of that, right? ? 

[00:49:18] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. Yeah. He used to make, what is it called? Like lithographs? 

[00:49:22] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Lithographs? Mm-hmm. of Lincoln. Because he was a presidential candidate and he was he wanted to show support because, you know, at the time the whole thing was Lincoln was against slavery.

But that, all that, but Yes. And then mm-hmm , he had poster cuz he was the only one that had like a printing press in his where he lived. So he was like, I need to make some money. I got a new wife, you know what I'm saying? So lemme go ahead and make these posters and show, you know, people wanna buy a show who they support.

And then Lincoln got the letter from this little girl in New York, and then he got a beard. So all these lithographs that he made with Lincoln with ball face, he had to get rid of 'em. He was like, what else I'm gonna do? So then he [00:50:00] was all sad and his homeboy came through and his homeboy was like, yo, let's go to the bar and play a game.

He's like, you know, I don't do that. You know what I'm saying? I'm a good dude. I don't drink, I don't gamble, I don't, I'm, that's the devil was music. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like that. And then he said, all right, play this game that he got from the uk, which was a game similar to the Game of life. So the first board game in the US was the Game of life.

Ah, yeah. But it was derived from a game that came from the UK that was to teach morals and how to live 

[00:50:25] DJ And?: really the game of life. Right. 

[00:50:26] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Really the game of life. And then he during the war at the time, he saw soldiers would sit and they all time and they was just throwing around rocks and pebbles. And he was like, man, They need to do something.

So he made the game a pocket game, and that's how it got to go around and get mm-hmm. , Milton Bradley. Yeah. Milton 

[00:50:42] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Bradley. Mm-hmm. , 

[00:50:43] DJ And?: Milton Bradley. Yeah, man. 

[00:50:45] Skip: Good gosh. 

[00:50:46] DJ And?: Okay, man. All right. Dropping the knowledge. All I'm gonna remember that now. First I'm gonna go check out that documentary. Now moving on to the next question.

This is gonna involve you a lot because this is, this is how I got to know the other side of what you do and being [00:51:00] Chef Mattias. So in the world of social media, of course it's important to cross market on multiple platforms. Could you all tell us the importance of social media platforms and what you all do specifically for you?

Wait one second. Y. With Fish Bando 8 0 3 , because I got to give you some of that fish thing. , I'm the, I love seafood and I'm trying to figure out, man, y'all, you gonna be cooking all this seafood up? Man, I keep missing the west name. I almost caught you one time. Yeah, I was there when it popped up and I was gonna go ahead and put my order in and I got distracted by something and it went and they were automatically snatched up.

So apparently it must be good. Yes. Because you tell us about your chef business and then also how important it is for you use, for you to use social media to help cross market it. Well 

[00:51:46] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Glad you asked me that, . I started Fish Bando to help my wife get to Omaha for the Black Games Convention. Afro Con Omaha.

[00:52:00] Yeah, the Afro Con. Beautiful. Mm-hmm. . So I started selling fish plates Smart. And I was like, okay, you know, I'm gonna do it. And then I came up with a name. . And then after that, you know, I was like, you know what? I think I might stick with it for a while. Mm-hmm. . So it, it grew and then I got on Instagram and that's when stuff really started, like moving and stuff like that Looks good.

 I might have people with actual footage of them eating my food and real actual reviews. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And, and that one, yeah, the th the 30,000 one. Yeah. I didn't even know that I went viral. Like Sure. Me and my wife found out like a month later, like months later, and I, and we was like, Does that say 30,000 views and, yeah, because I'm not, 

[00:52:55] DJ And?: I'm not social notification yet.

I'm not a social, social media person. 

[00:52:58] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Gotcha. That's right. Gotcha. If [00:53:00] you see anything with social media, except my my Instagrams, my wife is handling that 

[00:53:07] DJ And?: this going on there. I'm putting, she's 

[00:53:10] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: the one putting all of that stuff up there at curate my IG on Fish Bando and Hitman Black. You know, I do those, but everything else, she, she does that stuff.

I didn't even, we didn't know mm-hmm. . Seriously. I was like, when did 

[00:53:24] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: this happen? Yeah, yeah. Missed what 

[00:53:27] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: happened three months ago. Three months ago. 

[00:53:31] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Nobody Tell us, where was 

[00:53:32] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: I three months ago to where I didn't see 30,000 views on, on, he's. Yeah. Yeah. . Yeah. So Oh yeah, that little girl. Oh, she love that 

[00:53:43] DJ And?: man.

You said little girl. Love that fish. 

[00:53:45] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: You should hear it. It's, I from play it, it's hilarious. Oh my. It's hilarious. Cause I, it blew my mind. I said, oh my God, she is, 

[00:53:54] DJ And?: she really like, yeah. She really, really liked it. 

[00:53:56] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Yeah. The kids will tell you the truth about food. Yeah. They [00:54:00] don't lie. They don't lie.

Yeah. They people who don't like honey mustard, they, they love honey mustard. I got some videos in there of some people there eating my fish at the corner store. Mm-hmm. somebody bought a plate. Yeah. And she was ringing up folks trying to eat . And everybody else is asking her like, what's your name?

What is that? ? And they're like, oh, he's selfish. And people behind the counter, Asking for a piece. And she's like, I'm not giving you a piece of my fish. And they're like, yeah. It's, it's, it's crazy. It's crazy. Mm-hmm. . 

[00:54:35] DJ And?: I have to know. All right. I have to know this. Okay, now I feel bad. I'm being, I'm being selfish, man.

When are you, when are you making more 

[00:54:41] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: fish plates? Well, hold 

[00:54:44] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: on. Fish plate two, to be honest, it's probably after I get outta here. Oh, 

[00:54:49] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: yeah? Yeah. How do you, wait, 

[00:54:51] DJ And?: wait. So how would I get one? This, this, this plate Today. I sound crazy. Ingredient as hell. I know I do, 

[00:54:58] Skip: man. Man, my fault, man. Serious. [00:55:00] 

[00:55:00] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I'm serious.

Text him. When we, before we make 

[00:55:04] DJ And?: sure, cause this time made my lady days, she'll be like, what we got fish plate? I'm like, 

[00:55:07] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and he switches it up. Listen, I, I, I know I'm spoiled. I'm okay with that. See? Yeah, you spoiled. I accept the choices I make in life, . But when I say to you, this man has put me on some food, he has made it difficult.

For us to eat anything other than what he cooks sometimes, like we'll go to the store and just be pissed. 

[00:55:30] DJ And?: Like, good, good . 

[00:55:32] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Like, I don't, I don't, we don't eat out much unless we just really tired. Good job. Yeah. I hate that, but man. Okay. Our children right now, we, our oldest son is at work. He called him before we got him and was like, so are you making fish?

Like, could you drop 

[00:55:47] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: some? Yeah, because I was supposed to make some so I started telling to the zoo. Mm-hmm. ? Yeah. His coworkers at the zoo. Oh, okay. And smart. So I'm like, pre-orders [00:56:00] only, you gotta have pre-orders. No one pre-ordered. It just so happened nobody pre-ordered. That's why I'm here. Right.

Oh, cause you would've been getting ordered. Been 

[00:56:09] DJ And?: getting the pre-orders ready right now. Oh, I got lucky today y'all. So Yes. I wouldn't been. Yeah. Plug, plug, plug. 8 0 3 fish. 8 

[00:56:16] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: 0 3. Yeah. It's so good. Instagram. It's the best. I'll say it's the best fish in the Met period. No, I keep hearing, I kept y'all. It's so good.

And he makes his tar sauce some scratch. Yeah. From scratch. from 

[00:56:30] DJ And?: scratch. Y'all know we geechy, right? Ooh. Oh, we love us. Some fish and rice. 

[00:56:34] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: What? Y'all like some stop . About to 

[00:56:37] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: stop, man. Places up. Fish. Fish. Yes. Dirty. Potato salad, cornbread. Yes. 

[00:56:44] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: All made by him. Yep. All right. Y'all, this said, this 

[00:56:46] DJ And?: interview's over.

I'm gonna go ahead and wrap this up. I ain't gimme a fish plate. Y'all do messing with me, man. My fault. I'm up here having two personalities at once. Y'all messing with me today. Turn it. Okay. My fault. Let get back to this so we can, man. I will. I'm gonna come get [00:57:00] that fish plate all now. . 

[00:57:01] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Are you crying?

Yeah, man, this is like, trusts 

[00:57:04] DJ And?: me. We seafood people. Yeah, we're, we're people. I'm not lying. And he 

[00:57:09] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: does haven't been anywhere. He doesn't just, okay. So he's a, he's a personal chef too. He don't always tell people that he's a personal chef, 

[00:57:16] DJ And?: but he really, yes. Yeah. You are too humble. Yeah. 

[00:57:19] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: That's not a bad thing.

He, that's why I'm here. Oh. So, okay. He, he balance, he has balanced. He has absolutely. Put together some amazing meals for people. He sets up, he cooked there. He can bring it. He can. He makes one of my favorite dishes now, which is called Salmon Cab. It is salmon with angel hair, pasta, goat cheese. Oh, and sun dried to me.

We can make that for my lady, man. 

[00:57:42] DJ And?: For, for, oh man, she love that. That's one of her favorite. She loves Angel Hampshire. Man, I'm gonna make sure you turn up on that. Yeah. Put this thing right there. I'm gonna put up my phone. Put your number. Put on my phone as we finish, I'm Yeah. Holler at you. Oh, yes. Yes, 

[00:57:55] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: man.

And what I love about it, and I love about him is [00:58:00] that I could cook. Now I know I could cook, but something about the passion and the love and care that he has for food. Yeah. Like he really cares about, could see it. He cares about waste. He cares about who's eating, he cares about how someone feels when they eat it.

He's not the type of person, he's never been the type of person that was like, yo, let me just shell this out. Let me just get this gu and da da da da. He's always been, he's very meticulous. He's not giving you 

[00:58:23] DJ And?: carny looking place 

[00:58:23] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: about his food. Yeah. He gives a damn, like, I love that about him, because that's pretty rare for, you know, when people start thinking about the money or, or anything.

They're like, quality. Absolutely not. Yeah, 

[00:58:36] DJ And?: absolutely not. It's that profit. Absolutely not. And one thing I think with both of You'all in, in the, the skills that you all have and what you work. , you all put quality. Mm-hmm. on top. Yeah. And that's that. Man, it's, it's great. Especially for a lot of the folks in our audience, especially black folks trying to do business entrepreneurs.

just reiterate, keep pushing. Hey, I know it may be kind of tough, man, but keep your quality up. There's a big call [00:59:00] and the Dr. Claude Anderson thing is for black folks to have quality business acumen and when you put your product out or whatever your business is, that you do it the right way so that we can see that we treat ourselves with respect when it comes to doing business with one another.

Right? Yeah. Because we're supposed to trust each other and be like, Hey, you know what, if I'm gonna go get something, I'm gonna go to that personal event that looks like me because I know we're gonna treat each other well, I know it's gonna be a same product that money's in the state, in the 

[00:59:22] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: community.

Exactly. And that's the mission of within my business. Mm-hmm. period is, I like to use the analogy, I think I said this with you before too, that my games, while I make games for black people, specifically for black people, doesn't mean that other cultures can't play or supported. That's not what it means.

But what it means is it's like a birthday party. You get an invitation. You might get a goodie bag. Yeah. But you don't get the slice of cake that you want. You don't get the name, you don't get the corner and you don't get the flour. Yeah. It's not your birthday. No. True. Yeah. You can enjoy the about it, but 

[00:59:55] DJ And?: it's not your birthday.

It's not your 

[00:59:56] Skip: birthday. That's true. I like that analogy. 

[00:59:59] DJ And?: A good, good point. [01:00:00] Yeah. Serious. That's a good way to put it. Some cake though. Yeah. Some 

[01:00:03] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: just don't Tell me what's, like, she take what today is yours? No, it's not your 

[01:00:08] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: birthday, . Yeah. That's, that's the thing. I, I really it's all about quality. Mm-hmm.

when I make my food, I think about it. You know, I go back to what I tasted as a child and like all the things I add and things out, and then I try to like bring it into the now mm-hmm. and then it, and that's how it comes out. Good 

[01:00:33] DJ And?: Lord, whatever. So in there, like, gotta praying Grandma. Tell I was about to say, it's really up there cuz it's coming out that way.

Like a grandmother got that back there. Don't trust it. They ain't there when I go in that kitchen house. No, no. I'm not trust this food. And 

[01:00:47] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Go ahead. I'm, I'm gonna try to do that with all of my stuff with music. Yep. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Yeah. I was about to ask you about that too. I was supposed to be at, well, not supposed to be, but I got called in work today and I told him no.

 [01:01:00] You know, I do handyman stuff too. Okay. Oh, word. Okay. Yeah. I fix up apartments and stuff like that too. Okay. 

[01:01:06] DJ And?: Are you, are you freelance? Yeah. Ooh, you got the drop your information out there. Certificate. No, I didn't give you right. . You right. I'm gonna be real stupid with this and I didn't know any.

Yeah. The first week there they trying to get me to work on the weekend. Ooh. He was 

like, can't do it. Nah, I can't do it. 

[01:01:24] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. It's all about quality. Yeah, same. It's about 

[01:01:27] DJ And?: quality. I'll take that every day, man. Mm-hmm. , I'll take that over quick, fast in a hu in a hurry any day. And, and speaking on this, I know we're gonna hit this real quick and then we'll we'll wrap up cause I'm gonna hold y'all for two hours like you did last time,

But the importance of representation and again, you all being parents mm-hmm. particularly to the younger generations of black and brown girls and boys. How has the motto of representation impacted your brand? And do you all plan on creating other avenues, especially with your games and the and even with your, with your food [01:02:00] and your music and not to, not to even forget the merch, cuz during merch is fire.

Yeah. Do you plan on creating other avenues to reach African-American gamer community? Mm-hmm. . What, what, what, what's, what's the ideas? 

[01:02:14] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Well, I have a lot of games and development right now, but specifically I want to put out, I plan on putting out more games geared towards families and couples. Oh.

 Yeah, we talked about that in the first. Yeah. I, I'm a big supporter, black Love. Mm-hmm. . I'm, I'm really big on transparency. I like to show our children that it's okay to show that you care about somebody mm-hmm. to be a caring person. Mm-hmm. , like, you don't have to be so standoff sometimes, sometimes to, you know, let people in feel that vibe and know what, what to let in the affection is important.

Sensitivity is important. Mm-hmm. and I wanna put that throughout my games. also that love is [01:03:00] love and safety is paramount to me especially within our culture. Mm-hmm. , I'm, I'm, I'm huge on, we gotta take care of each other and that doesn't just mean financially. Mm-hmm. , you know what I mean? Like support our mental health journeys, support our discoveries of ourselves, support that we found out that some of the shit that we was brought up to believe might not always be right.

Yeah, that's true. And it don't mean that you wrong Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Or the person that raised us is wrong. Mm-hmm. But we don't have to do the same thing. But if you keep doing the same shit you've been doing, you keep getting the same shit you got. So I I like Go ahead. You Right. Putting out putting out more things that just.

Promote that. Mm-hmm. , especially love overall. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . So yes, there'll be a whole lot more fuzzy feel things from, as well as some, some some competitive games as well to just turn up and get people at the table talking and, and enjoying being around each other. That's my biggest thing.

Yeah. I know we can coexist, but can we do it happily? Yeah. Yes we can. That's a good point. [01:04:00] Can we do it happily and be prosperous? Mm-hmm. ? Absolutely. Yes we can. So I want to be one of those people in the front that's like, come on, let me, let's figure out some ways to do this. Yeah. Dope. And through gang, because games are fun and you 

[01:04:11] DJ And?: know, look, there's a whole, there's a whole culture.

They used to, they used to get through tough times. Like if there was a drought or if they had came out of a war or whatnot, they would get through it with games. Mm-hmm. . Yes. They would literally play games. During those tough times so they could forget about the hunger. Mm-hmm. or get through the war problem, whatever it was.

And then when they got on the other side and them keep living on life, 

[01:04:34] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: that's in that documentary that, see, that's what I was 

[01:04:36] DJ And?: wondering cause I heard about that before, man. I'm gonna have to watch that whole thing. Oh, it's good. Yeah, I know that thing's, man, y'all done put, dropped some jewels and put me on some stuff today.

 I must ask, what current projects are you two working on and and of course the, the proverbial, you know, social media thing. I must ask if you could also share how our folks could find you on social media, but, 

[01:04:59] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: [01:05:00] well, I've been working on Well, I had a few things to say, but hell, she didn't say it at all.

[01:05:04] DJ And?: go 

[01:05:05] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: ahead. You can read I ready to talk, you know? Yeah, 

[01:05:07] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: yeah. I know. I'm Ain't we caught 

[01:05:08] DJ And?: you on car today. I know we 

[01:05:11] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: saying shit. Well really I've been working on some music. Mm-hmm. I got some music out working on the Bando. You know, my thing with Fish Bando is, is I want people to see that you can get quality food and don't worry about the name. Yeah, no, no Fish. When people hear Fish Bando, they like fish bando, they like, the hell is Dash

You know what I'm saying? It's like, what is that? A a, a label? Was it a label? Is it, yeah. You know, was it clothes? I'm like, no, no. It's actual thing like, you know, I sell fish and stuff like that and I'm trying to. Show young folks, you know, that you can do that. You can do something different. Yeah. And yeah, [01:06:00] look the way that it that you wanna look.

Yeah. Instead, don't 

[01:06:03] DJ And?: have to compromise, right, 

[01:06:04] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: exactly. Yeah. You don't compromise yourself. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. . So that's what Fish Bando was all about. It really, 

[01:06:10] DJ And?: because you Right, when I first heard that, I know Mike was like, yeah, y'all gotta go check out Fish Band. I looked at him, I said, fish band though, feel I could check it out.

It's 

[01:06:17] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: all right for me to check it out. Said, man, go man. Here man, 

[01:06:20] DJ And?: man. He said, he said, do it look good. I said, yeah, it look good. He said, alright. He being weird. I being weird. Alright 

[01:06:29] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: man. Like every, it, it throws everybody off, you know, because you hear Bando. Yeah. And it's. 

[01:06:36] DJ And?: What y'all trapping out? The bando?

[01:06:38] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. Trapping out fish and really like because in my backyard I got the man cave and it's like this big old part that's attached to my house. Yeah. And it kind of looks like the bando. Oh, wow. So I fixed it up and then have my sign and everything. I got my tables and my fryers and stuff and everything, and it's fish bandos, so 

[01:06:58] DJ And?: Yeah.

Legit, like you ain't playing. [01:07:00] Yeah. 

[01:07:00] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Like it is, it's really fish. Bando, . 

[01:07:02] DJ And?: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . 

[01:07:05] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: And then you go to, to the side and you see the Impala. It look like an Impala, but it's really a studio. 

[01:07:09] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. It's a recording studio if you go. Yes. And you go to like what the, the stories or the tags or something or whatever, what are they?

 It's on Hitman Black. Yes. Hitman. I'm black on my ig. 

[01:07:24] DJ And?: Okay. Yeah. And hit That's H I T t t t m a n n. Yes. B l a k K. Yes. Yeah. 

[01:07:31] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yeah. And it'll, I'm on it right now. 

[01:07:33] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: and somewhere is there. It's like my card. It should I see it. Yeah, 

[01:07:38] DJ And?: I see it. Impala interviews. Yes. With Hit Man 

[01:07:40] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Black. Yeah. He interviews local artists and people in the community here too.

Yeah. Oh 

[01:07:46] DJ And?: star. You had Miss Mimi up there? Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Oh, that's dope. Okay. Okay. Okay. 

[01:07:52] Skip: On it, 

[01:07:52] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: on it, on it. And somewhere is the process of me making this, 

[01:07:58] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: this studio. I [01:08:00] know I recorded it cause I was like, I was excited. You hear me? Yeah. When he told me he was gonna do it, I thought it was a good idea.

Anyway, so we had our old Impala in the back. We wasn't driving it. We wasn't using it and we were like, you know, you could do something with it. Smart 

[01:08:15] DJ And?: him and smart. No seriously. Yeah. You know that, that is ingenuity. It's like, it literally like that's some US shit. No, I can tell you all are, y'all are on the God cool vibe man.

Especially for a couple to come in. I know we caught y'all guards for the moment. Putting you in together. But I appreciate it, y'all. Yeah, man. I really appreciate having all here together, man. The love is there. Thank you. Tell it's real. Well I'm gonna get ready to wrap up. Oh, before I do, wait. Social media, that's what I was about to get back.

Yes. I need y'all socials. 

[01:08:43] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yes. So you can find me on Instagram at Queen. It shall be. You can also find information on my company in all seriousness, at Iass games, on Instagram Facebook and Twitter, and on Instagram, Facebook and [01:09:00] Twitter. You can find Hillman the game. And my website is ias games.com.

 Where you can learn all about the games I create, the merch I have and my daily dance movement called Knees Up, where I dance every day for accountability and joy. And today is day 2,200, no, 2,123. Woo. Every day. 

[01:09:27] DJ And?: Accountability, y'all. Yes. Another thing that black people need accountability. Yes. Yes.

Good gracious. That's dope. Dope. Extra dope. Oh, I almost forgot you got the mech with the knees up too. 

[01:09:37] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Yes, I do have knees up merch. Yeah. Chain plan. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. 

[01:09:41] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: And mine is hate Man black on ig. That's h i t t m a n n B l A k k Oni G and Fish Bando. That is b a n d o 8 0 3. And check me out, man.

Oh, 

[01:09:58] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: and on Twitch, you're hitman black on [01:10:00] Twitch. Oh, don't forget the, and I'm Queen. Y'all be going hold up and we have a 

[01:10:04] Skip: couple, sorry. You got FL Studio inside the Impala? 

[01:10:09] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Where's that one at? Yeah. And that song there. Yeah. I made that song and I decided to do a ad for game. Games of God.

Yeah. Smart. Yeah. As well is actually talking my game. Like it's, it's, 

[01:10:28] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I can put you long day. 

[01:10:30] Marteeus "Hittman Black" Hall: Yeah. Like you can actually hear it on 

[01:10:32] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: the, oh, y'all gonna have to have a, oh, and I meant to tell y I have a surprise for y'all. Oh, I forgot about it. Yeah. So before I knew that you had the game and it really don't matter.

I was gonna do it anyway. I bought a copy of him in the game for a hilltop glow. Yes. Surprise. 

[01:10:49] DJ And?: We're gonna hold this one down for perpetuity. Y'all wanna keep it nice and pristine? It ain't gonna pop out the seal . 

[01:10:55] Skip: Absolutely. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. 

[01:10:57] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: You're welcome. So this is our 

[01:10:58] DJ And?: No, yours is, [01:11:00] yeah. Kevin, do you turn around?

That's what I saying. She bought the bag. 

[01:11:03] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Don't get the bag. Bag. That blue bag over there. Oh, 

[01:11:06] DJ And?: you the mess had up. You looking at that? I do what 

[01:11:08] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: I can. I do what I can. I'm gonna give a, that's it. . Yeah. 

[01:11:12] DJ And?: Yeah, brother. Then we gotta, I'm keep, I'm gonna only play with the one that we touched thus far. Yep. Yeah. So we're, so this one stays?

Yeah. That's appreciate. Yes. Yep. This what we're gonna keep, y'all made our day, so we'll buy some mer in instead. Yeah. About some mech say less and some fish Y'all. Merch and fish. 

[01:11:30] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Y'all are dope. I'm so happy. That's so to be. Yeah. That's what we do, man. 

[01:11:34] Skip: We, we stay man. We can support. We support. Absolutely.

[01:11:39] Tanisha "Queen" Hall: Y'all are amazing. It is. What, this has been so much fun, 

[01:11:41] DJ And?: man. It is always fun talking to y'all. Y'all got such good energy, man. I'll come back and like I didn't, I'm happy we got to meet you to actually gotta sit down with you as well because I kept to hear about you. I didn't get by from my fish plate and I felt so badly and I know she was coming in today and when you both walked in I said, oh, we get to bother him.

Let's see if we get both of 'em in here. . So he made 

[01:11:59] Skip: [01:12:00] day. Yeah. And just the universe, it just worked out that way because like I said cuz Mike was with Mike has to watch IO this weekend, so 

[01:12:06] DJ And?: couldn't be so they didn't have Mike baby. I owe know. 

[01:12:10] Skip: And then like I said what she'll call is Tamaya was here earlier, but she had gig to do 

[01:12:15] DJ And?: and so she wanted to go worked.

So yeah, this worked out well. But man, I'm gonna tell y'all man, I want to thank y'all for joining us today on the Hilltop Glove podcast to our guests, queen and shall be. Mr. Chef Marcia, a k a hitman black. Want to thank you for joining us. Myself, DJ Ann Wet my brother Skip. Yep. We really appreciate it, man.

Thank you. We love black love. We like to see y'all working together. We, we'd love to see how you all work and do your business thing. Yeah. And I think it's something for our audience to have aspirations to see and want to be, and it's good for them to hear and know that this does exist. I'm glad we can represent.

Yes. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Not a problem at all. So, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna sign out for the Hilltop Glove podcast. It's a beautiful Saturday out there. I want everybody to go out there, tell somebody near 'em that you love them. Be good tonight. Be good to to the people [01:13:00] around you and make sure that you are positive and supportive.

Peace, peace. Peace.