The Hilltop Glove Podcast

Tanya Murphy | I Know You Got Soul | Episode #69

May 23, 2023 The Hilltop Glove Podcast Episode 69
The Hilltop Glove Podcast
Tanya Murphy | I Know You Got Soul | Episode #69
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THG interviews Tanya Murphy. Tanya is Charlotte-based multidisciplinary artist and entrepreneur. Over her extensive career, the Philadelphia native has been an art instructor, gallery owner/director, and curator.  Her artworks are held in numerous public and private collections nationally. Currently she is a member Charlotte Art League's artist space.

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The Hilltop Glove Podcast | Tanya Murphy

[00:00:00] Ta-Myia: Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Hilltop Glove Podcast. Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Miss Tanya Murphy. Tanya is a multidisciplinary artist located in Charlotte, North Carolina. Her art is inspired by historical research and exploration of nature's beauty. She explores internal messages and ancestral visions to unveil the not so obvious energy left in an environment, the mind memory, and la and landscapes.

[00:00:29] Ta-Myia: Her artistic pursuit is to create new thought patterns about life's connections between sustained nature and human energy. She enjoys layering light, texture, shadows, shapes, figures, and tones to compare and contrast with mediums like photography, printmaking. Painting and painting. She received her Bachelor's of fine Arts and Photography from Temple University's, Tyler's School of the Art in continued studies in painting at the Pennsylvania [00:01:00] Academy of Fine Arts.

[00:01:01] Ta-Myia: Tanya's Art career has spanned more than 30 years, allowing her to serve as a curator, gallery owner slash director, and art teacher. Her artworks are held in numerous public and private collections nationally. Thank you for joining us today. How are you? I'm great. 

[00:01:19] Tanya Murphy: Thank you guys for having me. Thank you.

[00:01:22] Ta-Myia: Your bio. I love it. Thank you. You've done a lot. Yes. I've seen your work when we were at the Charlotte Art League. Yeah. But I really wanted to do this interview because you have a mixed media type of feel, and plus you also dabble in photography, painting, and the ancestral work. So that's that's amazing.

[00:01:40] Tanya Murphy: Awesome. I was wondering if you guys did some homework. I was, yeah. Yeah, of course you did. Did I stalked you? I stalked you. Oh, that I looked at all 

[00:01:48] Ta-Myia: your work. Oh, that's awesome. Just to give our audience a little background about you what was it like for you growing up and what inspired you to be a visual artist?

[00:01:57] Tanya Murphy: Wow. What was it like for me growing up? [00:02:00] I guess I'll start with that. I grew up. In the two places. I'll have to say, I grew up in Philadelphia where I was born and raised inner city just outside of west Philadelphia. Born and raised like Will Smith. Smith. Okay. Yeah. Store. Exactly. Went to Overbrook High School with him as a matter of fact.

[00:02:19] Tanya Murphy: Oh, wow. I took photographs of him as a matter of fact before Wow. Before he graduated. We were only a year or two behind. He was a year or two behind me. Okay. And I had my camera everywhere with me by that point. Because that was my first two years of college and I started college with photography and printmaking as my major.

[00:02:37] Tanya Murphy: Oh. But growing up, I grew up in West Philadelphia, Southwest and that's a distinguishable thing amongst West Philadelphia. Seriously. That's a real thing. Yeah. It's a real thing. Yeah. What part of West Philadelphia you're from, right? You're from West? West or you from Southwest? So what's the difference?

[00:02:55] Tanya Murphy: Well, Southwest we got labeled as sort of like a little bit of [00:03:00] bougie, bougie, otherwise upper class cuz we had single family home single family homes and or twins that were attached on one side. Yeah. You know, you got a alley to run up and down mm-hmm. And all that kind of stuff. And you know, they called us bougie for one reason or another.

[00:03:17] Tanya Murphy: West Philadelphia houses were more attached you know, road row homes. And so maybe that's why I, I don't know exactly why, you know, but I loved the area I grew up in. You know, I walked to school and it started out as a very Integrated area when I was a child. Yes. I grew up with a lot of folks who were af of African from the African diaspora, and I grew up with a lot of people who were non-black.

[00:03:45] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. And over the years I would see things change and I. I was trying to figure it out, but I wasn't quite understanding what was going on. The white flight thing. Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate was, was real. Yeah. And I saw a lot of my friends leave and I'm like, why are you leaving? I [00:04:00] don't understand. We were cool.

[00:04:01] Tanya Murphy: We were all friends and go to Eagles games together, all that kind of stuff. I'm 

[00:04:05] DJ And?: cool with you, but No, no Eagles fan. He ain't no Eagles 

[00:04:10] Tanya Murphy: fans before nine. That's okay. It's all right. We were in the Super Bowl anyway, growing up was wonderful. We you know, it was wonderful. I, I didn't know I was just a hair above four.

[00:04:22] Tanya Murphy: I didn't know, you know? Yeah. Yeah, my mom was a seamstress and she taught me to sew and she taught me that there was. A couple things I needed to know. I needed to know how to sew. I needed to know how to type. I needed to know how to I forget what the sewing and typing are things that stick out in my head.

[00:04:39] Tanya Murphy: Wow. Believe it or not, those things have been integrated into my artwork. The sewing, certainly I can see why I'm always piecing things together with my mixed media. Mm-hmm. As much as I try to get away from it, I'm back to sewing. Yeah. Growing up was, was cool. I, I was raised by my mom primarily and a single single mother household.[00:05:00] 

[00:05:00] Tanya Murphy: My father wasn't far away, but he wasn't there every day. Gotcha. And I have a brother and a sister and are you the oldest? I'm a middle child. Oh, middle child. Middle child. Yeah, I'm the middle child. So I was the, the go-between kid. Mm-hmm. My sister's three years, almost four years younger than me.

[00:05:22] Tanya Murphy: My brother and I, they call us Irish twins cuz he's just a year Oh yeah. Older than me. I'm an Irish twin too. Yeah. He's a year older than me, so I was, we look like twins. Yeah. You know, as far as our height and the way we acted together. But you know, we're all still pretty close together now. That's good.

[00:05:40] Tanya Murphy: I'm grown. It was cool. I was an artist early. Really? In kindergarten, I knew I was an artist. Oh. There was no if stands but bad. No, it wasn't. How'd you know, I, I thought everybody was able to draw. Mm-hmm. And see you one. That's people. Yeah. I thought everyone saw things in the light and in the, in the [00:06:00] walls.

[00:06:00] Tanya Murphy: And I just, it was just that way for me. So once I found out that people could not do that, then I began to define myself as an artist. I'm like, oh, I guess I'm. Different on something. Yes. And then my brother could draw. Mm-hmm. I guess that's another reason why I thought everybody could do it. My brother could draw.

[00:06:17] Tanya Murphy: Wow. My uncle could draw. And my mom was a seamstress. So the creative, I thought the creativity. Mm-hmm. And my father was a singer. Oh, wow. Mm-hmm. He played the guitar and he sang. And my whole family was singers, so Okay. All of my uncles and aunts were singing and were known for that singing. We were in the church very, very, very heavily in the church wasn't an option.

[00:06:43] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. My grandmother had four 15 kids. Wow. And, and I think growing up all of my uncles and aunts were living except for two and we were all in church singing. Mm-hmm. And I thought everybody was creative. Mm-hmm. [00:07:00] And But so that was me growing up. I was at church and I I used to draw the Bible stories.

[00:07:09] Tanya Murphy: Those are my first murals. As a matter of fact, you can't even laugh 

[00:07:11] DJ And?: about that. Cause that used to be my, my, my mother. She was Sunday school teacher. Yeah. I used to have to be in there all the time. Mm-hmm. With the Bible pictures, coloring the Bible pictures. Mm-hmm. Coloring the Bible pictures in Right.

[00:07:19] DJ And?: Doing our little presentation stuff. So Yeah, I understand that. 

[00:07:22] Tanya Murphy: That was it part Yeah. I did all the Bible stories and I had my Bible with the, in the inlays in there, the gold leaf photos that were in the center of the Bible. And you know, my pastime was drawing figures and drawing my hands and just, just doing whatever I could to, I could all my time to doodle.

[00:07:40] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Mm-hmm. I wasn't much of a doodle. I would really get into drawing it. Yeah. So I would make a mural. There was always a contest. As a matter of fact, in kindergarten or an elementary school, I was disqualified for a contest. What? I always tell this story. Ooh. I was disqualified by my teacher. My third grade teacher said that I cheated and I did not draw the picture because it was [00:08:00] so good.

[00:08:00] Tanya Murphy: Yes. Because it was so good. She was hating. Yeah. She was haters. 

[00:08:03] DJ And?: Ooh.

[00:08:07] Tanya Murphy: Good Lord. I was so upset. I had to get my mother to come to school Yeah. And tell her that I did. She didn't help me. Yeah. But I did it all on my own. Yeah. And then, you know, I got into the, the contest and, you know, I don't, I, I can't remember if I won or anything. That was just the pivotal thing that sticks out in my mind that I was disqualified because my teacher didn't trust that I did it on my own.

[00:08:31] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I, I was in a lot of contests and there was a lot of great school activities and displays and things like that. And I was getting into doing the maps and whatever it was, you know, I, I really, I really enjoyed art from kindergarten. I remember. That's good. You're self-taught 

[00:08:48] Ta-Myia: then.

[00:08:48] Ta-Myia: So you, like you're self-taught con compared to when you went to college. 

[00:08:53] Tanya Murphy: I went on to, I went on to high school for art. Okay. As a matter of fact By the time I left elementary [00:09:00] school. Mm-hmm. That would've been fifth grade. In sixth grade through eighth grade, junior high. I did really do an art school.

[00:09:09] Tanya Murphy: Mm. Okay. But I knew that art was still really a big part of my life. Mm-hmm. I was sewing, like I said, yeah. I would make my own clothes. I didn't know which direction I was going. Yeah. I, I would make my own clothes. I would sing, I would play the piano and cuz my dad was teaching me, you know, you learned bill withers and things like that.

[00:09:29] Tanya Murphy: You know, nothing structural, just by ear, as they used to say, play by ear. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so between the sewing and the playing the piano, and then I went to, I started playing the violin. I had to decide in high school where, what was I going to do with my creative self? Mm-hmm. So I applied for Overbrook High School, which like I said, will went to, and there was a program there called performing like the High School for Performing Arts.

[00:09:56] Tanya Murphy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where Boys to Men and all those folks went too. Yeah. Yeah. [00:10:00] So Overbrook had a program that was called the Magnet Program. So you could come in as a magnet artist student, which would be structured art classes or advanced art classes. Okay. Art or music. So you can go and study music in an advanced way.

[00:10:17] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Or you can be a scholar, which means you were a brainiac and you went in, you were accepted for those. So I was accepted for the art program. Okay, cool. Wow. That's interesting. That's amazing. May I ask? Yeah. And what 

[00:10:29] DJ And?: year was this? 

[00:10:30] Tanya Murphy: I was accepted. Okay. High school starts in ninth grade. I ninth think.

[00:10:35] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. In ninth grade in Philadelphia. So in ninth grade I had to come up with a portfolio. Wow. Was to get accepted. To get accepted into the art magnet program. And it was, but you already 

[00:10:46] Ta-Myia: developed by then. 

[00:10:47] Tanya Murphy: I didn't consider myself to be that developed. It was challenging. I think you had to do, they gave you a list of things to, to do.

[00:10:55] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Draw your hands. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very hard to do. And it was [00:11:00] something I hadn't really tried to do on that level. Draw your hands. Holding an object. Okay. Okay. Draw an interior space. Okay. And a self-portrait. Mm-hmm. So those were really hard for a ninth grader. Yeah. You know, I, I think I remember crying one point like, oh, I don't know if I can do this.

[00:11:18] Tanya Murphy: And my mom said, you know, if you're gonna be an artist, this is you better get used to these challenges. Yeah. Yeah. And so I did it and I got accepted and I went to high school for art for four years before 

[00:11:31] DJ And?: college. Wow. Wow. Did you, and this is an inter, I just have to ask the question cause it's, you know, we don't get to talk to a lot of people that went to art school.

[00:11:37] DJ And?: Mm-hmm. Did you have other classes to take outside of art? Did they take like general. Education. So you would take math and Oh, absolutely. 

[00:11:46] Tanya Murphy: English composition on other good stuff. Absolutely. So they've, they filtered in the art as like an advanced course. Okay, gotcha. You, so you did everything everyone else did.

[00:11:57] Tanya Murphy: You had to, of course. To Yeah. Finish high [00:12:00] school. So you had your, your all of your math, you know, your, your geo geometry, algebra, algebra. And I found out I was good at algebra. Really good. Wow. But I wasn't so great at geometry, but algebra in your artist. Yeah, exactly. That's so crazy. That's the crazy 

[00:12:15] Ta-Myia: part to me, cuz most people who are artists, it's one or the other.

[00:12:19] Ta-Myia: Me, I was not good at math. Mm-hmm. But I would have to make it artistic in order to remember something. I would have to make a story Sure. In my head to remember like, All right. This is what we're going to do today. X over, right? Like fractions. Sure. It was just a lot. It's okay. Yeah, 

[00:12:35] Tanya Murphy: it's okay. As a teacher, I understand that there's different ways of learning.

[00:12:37] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. And so I was good at, at algebra in ninth grade, I was also really good at English. English was my second favorite subject. Wow. Word skills. Word skills. Communication. Communication. Being a Virgo, I'm gonna have to push you. Oh, no. Coming. I knew it 

[00:12:57] DJ And?: lady. Me. She 

[00:12:59] Tanya Murphy: was a [00:13:00] Virgo. Wait, what's your date, Virgo?

[00:13:02] Tanya Murphy: The 10th of September. I'm the ninth. 

[00:13:04] Ta-Myia: I'm nine. Nine. See, we are 

[00:13:06] Tanya Murphy: meant, we are meant to 

[00:13:08] Ta-Myia: be. 

[00:13:08] DJ And?: Many verb. Each communicating. Let's see, what time 

[00:13:11] Skip: is so many hers? They're haters. My, they're 

[00:13:15] DJ And?: haters. Escape. 

[00:13:17] Ta-Myia: S are the best. See, I'm so glad I've been here. Yeah. My wife 

[00:13:19] Skip: is the 11th and my daughter's the first.

[00:13:21] DJ And?: Virgo all 

[00:13:22] Tanya Murphy: day surrounding. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And that's a re, that's a reason for that. Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm. You figure out one, we keep restructured. Oh, that's what, it's, 

[00:13:29] Skip: that's what, it's, 

[00:13:30] Tanya Murphy: that's what it's awesome. I was saying that English was my second favorite subject. And you know, I, I knew I was an artist, but at the same time, I, I knew that, that, that was also something that I had a really, really fond feeling for.

[00:13:47] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. So in going to college, doing my applications I didn't have the highest s a T score. It was borderline. Okay. But it wasn't, you know, I'm not a great test [00:14:00] taker. Yeah, that's good. But my portfolio, they told me was the best they had seen. All year. Wow. This is what Tyler School of Art told me.

[00:14:08] Tanya Murphy: They said, your portfolio is the best portfolio. Cuz of course you had to have another That's their exam. Yeah, their exam, their entrance, yeah. Production that was blown away. They, they were blown away by that. I was then Asked if I would like to go into a summer program. Okay. For English and math or whatever it was at Temple University.

[00:14:28] Tanya Murphy: And I said, sure, no problem. I wasn't doing anything for the summer. This before you went? Before I went into college, yes. Alright. And so I went there and I got all A's on the English and every, it's just a test taking problem. Test. Yeah. It was a test taking. So I always keep that in mind when I meet a student.

[00:14:44] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. I don't put any anything in, in front of the, my thoughts. I'm like, let me see where they're at. Let me see where, how they learn. Yeah. And then we can, we can figure it 

[00:14:55] Ta-Myia: out because everyone's different. That's good that you got to experience that. So how did you find your [00:15:00] niche in the art field?

[00:15:02] Ta-Myia: Because I know, like for me, I, as an artist, I struggle like, all right, do I wanna do abstract art? Do I wanna do portraits? You know, but I also do photography and then I can do collage work too. So when I looked at your portfolio, I was like, I have so many questions for her, because you just brought everything together.

[00:15:17] Ta-Myia: So how did you, find your space 

[00:15:19] Tanya Murphy: in the art world? Okay, that's a great question. And it took some time. Part of it was life and it's and the things that I needed to accomplish, I had to look at. The whole picture, it's like making a pot of soup. Mm-hmm. You know, you don't wanna be too heavy on the, the onions or the garlic and not have enough meat.

[00:15:42] Tanya Murphy: Like, where's the meat? You know, where's the beef? That's okay. When I finished college let me start with being in college. Mm-hmm. Once I got there, I considered myself a painter. Mm-hmm. Okay. Immediately I, off the bat, [00:16:00] I was a painter. I went into college with a portfolio that was 99% paintings and drawings maybe some ink drawings, things like that.

[00:16:10] Tanya Murphy: And I enjoyed all of that. It was very good structure. I will never, ever, you know, Put a disclaimer on any of that. I have that portfolio saved for my daughter. That is who I, that is, that is very important to me. Yeah. And sometimes I look at it and I have a sketchbook that also took me through that time period.

[00:16:30] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. But once I got into college I figured it was in time to open, open up. Yeah. And it was like, you know, everything before was kindergarten or the ABCs. So what did I really want to explore? So I wanted to explore printmaking on all levels. I already felt like I was getting A'S and painting.

[00:16:53] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. And it wasn't challenging me. So I've enrolled in photography course because I [00:17:00] always loved photography when it was my way to escape as a young child in West Philadelphia, I look at Jet Magazine and Ebony Magazine and all the travel magazines, and it would take me outside of the area that I. Was living in, you know, I knew that I wasn't gonna be someone who just wanted to stay in the area where I was born.

[00:17:23] Tanya Murphy: As the Bible said, the earth is, is the lord's, the earth is yours lords. Yeah. Yeah. And the fullness thereof. So I I, I, if I couldn't get there, I wanted to see it in a picture. Yeah. So I brought a camera in my freshman year, I enrolled in photography courses. I enrolled in printmaking courses to learn something different about drawing.

[00:17:43] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. And so drawing on plates. Yeah. And and I continued to take pH painting courses too. And photography just kept rolling over for me mm-hmm. And over for me. Mm-hmm. And I got my degree in photography. My, my Bachelor of fine Arts is, it says [00:18:00] photography, but there's so much that's along with that.

[00:18:02] Tanya Murphy: I, yeah. But I got married in college. Wow. And yeah. That's interesting. I don't know. I, I like having a lot on my plate. I think I do more, I'm more under pressure. I, work more under pressure. Mm-hmm. I do better when there's more for me to do. Gotcha. You know what they say? I don't mind. Yeah.

[00:18:21] Tanya Murphy: So if I have too much free time, it's, you go crazy. I don't, it's not good for me. Yeah. You know, I, I don't know what it is. I, I need to stay busy. My mind has to stay busy. It's the Virgo thing. 

[00:18:31] Ta-Myia: It is. It's, you start questioning am I here? Why, why are you being lazy? 

[00:18:35] DJ And?: Yeah. What, what? I Virgo, y'all really serious about that?

[00:18:38] DJ And?: Like doing. 

[00:18:39] Ta-Myia: Exactly. It's like our mind. What is that? We tire ourselves out in our mind. Yeah. Because we're thinking so much 

[00:18:45] Tanya Murphy: all the time. And my husband says that all the time. That's true. He's honey, please, I, you're good. You know? Can you please just cut it off? It's early in the morning or it's late at night.

[00:18:54] Tanya Murphy: Or you know, he's a Scorpio, so I just like, oh my God. Oh my God. [00:19:00] This is his frog. This is, yes. It's alright. It's alright. Yeah. But being married to a Virgo and a Scorpio, that's a whole different 

[00:19:09] DJ And?: story. I gotta watch. I be teasing him. Everything's so hilarious. It's hilarious. I know. This is about to be funny.

[00:19:14] DJ And?: We go hilarious. Get my popcorn together. It's hilarious. Yeah. That is funny. Mm-hmm. It's 

[00:19:19] Tanya Murphy: funny, it's hilarious. It's funny and it's not funny. No. But at the, to get back to where I was. Yeah. Which is Like my mind's racing, so you might have to sometimes remind me what I was talking about. Yeah. 

[00:19:31] DJ And?: So we're talking about like you needing to have a lot on your plate.

[00:19:35] DJ And?: It makes kids, you got married in 

[00:19:36] Tanya Murphy: college? Yeah, I got married in college. Yeah. And my mom was thinking, she said, why are you getting married in college? I'm like you can't just cut off that upbringing I had in the church like I had. That's true. Okay. You know, it took me, I agree to agree, you know, my fifties to figure out all of that.

[00:19:51] Tanya Murphy: But when I was in my twenties, yeah. I was at that place where, look, I was scared over my shoulder. Oh, I better get married, you know, I'm [00:20:00] out here doing what I'm doing. Devil chasing Exactly. Double chasing me. Let me get married. Mm-hmm. So I got married and I was in college, which is another thing to do as a Virgo.

[00:20:07] Tanya Murphy: So it wasn't Yeah. Wasn't a lot on my plate. So I didn't have any children. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, I got married and had the photography. I graduated. I, I opened up a clothing store cuz I, I was always loving fashion. Mm-hmm. So I had a clothing store. I just went through life basically.

[00:20:28] Tanya Murphy: Photography at that point was something that fit into my. Timeline. Mm-hmm. It fit into my scheduling. Mm-hmm. I worked for a photography lab or photography house. When you used to develop film and Yeah, so I met every photographer in town. I, you know, it was, I was in the, in the know with knowing everybody in Philadelphia who did photography.

[00:20:50] Tanya Murphy: So that was cool. I met a lot of people and I did a lot of things. And so eventually I got divorced from my my first husband. [00:21:00] And it's okay. That's just a part of the journey. But in my in the interim, I ended up have getting getting pregnant, having my daughter, and I realized that photography still was perfect because it, it wasn't as intense as having to, to.

[00:21:18] Tanya Murphy: To draw and paint and mix colors and do all those things. Mm-hmm. But I, I still love my painting. Eventually as she got older, I, I started mixing media. Mm-hmm. I said, okay, I got the photograph. I would photograph people on the street, do all kinds of documenting and, and, and, and of West Philadelphia, which needs to be in the Smithsonian, you know?

[00:21:39] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. They, these pictures from the nineties are just fantastic, and I plan to rev revitalize them on a large scale. Okay. Yeah. But what I started doing was painting them. Okay. Because I love doing the black and white photography. Mm-hmm. Color photography's nice, but it just didn't excite me as much as the black and white, I think it allowed my mind to, to go in a different place.

[00:21:59] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. [00:22:00] So I started painting with oils on my photographs, and I really enjoyed that. That's where I first started mixing media. The media. 

[00:22:08] Ta-Myia: Okay. Mm-hmm. Wow. That kind of goes right into our next question. How do you 

[00:22:12] Tanya Murphy: decipher pause 

[00:22:16] Skip: and then we just jump back in. What,

[00:22:26] Tanya Murphy: just 

[00:22:27] Ta-Myia: make sure your phone is on silent. 

[00:22:29] Tanya Murphy: Okay. Can I move this? Can you move step back, back there? No, you're fine. No, you're 

[00:22:34] DJ And?: supposed 

[00:22:34] Tanya Murphy: to be at, yeah, I gonna have 

[00:22:35] Skip: you sit in the car. We can just edit and go back. He 

[00:22:41] Tanya Murphy: needs the address. That's what its what's the address here? 2 2 26 wessington. 2 

[00:22:46] Skip: 2 46 

[00:22:46] Tanya Murphy: Westinghouse.

[00:22:47] Tanya Murphy: Okay. Uh uh, building 3 0 4 2. Yeah. 2 26. 6 0 2 2 2 oh. 2226. 

[00:22:55] Skip: Yeah. Two 20. Yeah. 2 

[00:22:57] Tanya Murphy: 26 Westinghouse. [00:23:00] 

[00:23:01] Skip: That's the neat thing about the podcast, even 

[00:23:03] Tanya Murphy: just stop and go. Yeah. Westinghouse Road or Boulevard. Oh, Boulevard. Yes, ma'am. George, forgot the, and the unit number is 3 0 4? Yes, ma'am. Okay. 2 26 Westinghouse Road.

[00:23:16] Tanya Murphy: Just, all right. So remind me where we were. 

[00:23:20] Ta-Myia: Oh, okay. We're talking about the mixed media, and I wanted to real ask you a question like how do you decipher between which mediums to create your work of art, and also what is, which is your favorite medium to work with? 

[00:23:32] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Okay. How do I decipher which meme to work on?

[00:23:36] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. You know, the subject matter tells me or helps me with that. I like to start with photography. Okay. It's my sketchbook. Ah, I hate to say that because there are so times where photography is the end story. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But in general I always say I'm a lazy painter. You don't wanna do the sketching first.

[00:23:56] Tanya Murphy: I don't. See, I'm 

[00:23:57] DJ And?: the same way. So you take a picture, the picture allows [00:24:00] you to have a sketch. It's an instant sketch. 

[00:24:01] Tanya Murphy: Yes. Mm-hmm. It's an instant sketch. Yep. And I feel, feel better that it's my sketch. Mm-hmm. Ah, as opposed to surfing the web and finding the image. Mm-hmm. I like to make my own sketch. Okay.

[00:24:13] Tanya Murphy: So when I wanna tell a story I go out into that environment. The environment's important. So a lot of my work is about the southern environment. Mm-hmm. And then there's a lot that's about the urban environment. Mm-hmm. But I go out there with my camera and I'm photographing whether it's I'm photographing a, a playground in the city, or if I'm photographing a farm or a lambs landscape.

[00:24:38] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Mm-hmm. So I'm there first. Mm-hmm. And then I do the best photograph that I think that warrants. It itself as, as a photograph? Mm-hmm. I don't try to photograph for later producing a painting or that kind of thing. So do you 

[00:24:54] Skip: photograph so when you got, so are you photographing mainly for like composition?

[00:24:58] Skip: So when you go back and [00:25:00] you process what it is that you've shot, it inspires you when you 

[00:25:03] Tanya Murphy: do paint? I photograph for the beauty of the, of the landscape, for the beauty of the moment. And then I just take in the moment, a lot of time I'm not just shooting, shooting, shooting, I'm very specific about what I shoot.

[00:25:17] Tanya Murphy: I still shoot, like I'm shooting film. I think, you know, when it was expensive to process, you're wasting it to think about it. Yeah. Yeah. I shoot you know, I'm still shooting analog and, and process processes and Okay. And, and that's the other thing. I'm, I love alternative processes with my photography.

[00:25:34] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. I, if I could paint my emotions on I'm gonna do it. Yeah. Because I love to paint. It gives me that feeling. Yeah. So I, I do right now working on things where I'm painting on or, or transferring, and that gives me that sense of you know, that I, I'm not in a dark, dark room, but I'm, I'm in a light dark room.

[00:25:51] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. And but that's great. All that's open for me. I, I, I don't like to limit myself, but that's challenging that, that, that thought [00:26:00] process is challenging to just be that open sometimes, because I have to focus in order to make a. Especially if I wanna do a, a body of work. Yeah. But I think I have focus instead of your mind is boring.

[00:26:12] Tanya Murphy: Sure. Just, just going it off on its own. But I do several bodies of work at the same time, and I don't know if that makes any sense, but I might be doing a body of work where it's nature oriented and then I might be doing a body of work where it's collage oriented. Okay. And then I'm doing a body of work where it might be portrait or figurative, and then sometimes it all ends up together.

[00:26:36] Tanya Murphy: And you're working on these 

[00:26:37] DJ And?: things simultaneously? 

[00:26:39] Tanya Murphy: She, you 

[00:26:40] Ta-Myia: sound like you hop to 

[00:26:40] Tanya Murphy: hop each thing. Yes, I do. I, I spent one, I can say the longest hop was 10 years. So 10, 10 years I did photography and then about 10 years was painting only. Ah-huh. And then one I decided, you know, I'm gonna bring 'em together.

[00:26:55] Tanya Murphy: And then that's when I really found my niche where I said, you know, I think bring 'em [00:27:00] together is really where I'm at. Mm-hmm. I like, I like combining the media. Mm-hmm. Together. And and so even if I'm doing one thing, I'm, it's an exploration for the final project, which is to me gonna be mixed up somehow.

[00:27:13] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And one form or another, I don't waste anything. So if I'm doing print making and I'm rubbing and. Pulling things, the pools are saved. Okay. Ah. Because I know that they probably will be, later on, they will be painted or cut or carved. Yeah. That's the sewing coming back in it. And it, and I get mad at myself.

[00:27:35] Tanya Murphy: Like you say, sometimes I'm sitting there going, why am I doing this? Mm-hmm. I know this hurts my back. I know what the, you know, I, I, I do that all the time, but then I just give in and say, you, this is who you are. Yeah. This is how your conversations are. Yeah. This is how your brain works. Yeah. And as much as you wanna do abstract work Yeah.

[00:27:52] Tanya Murphy: You don't work that way. Yeah. Yeah. So I enjoy abstract, abstract artists. Mm-hmm. When I see their work and I tell them like, I [00:28:00] really, really enjoy that, and I love how you can do that. Mm-hmm. Because it's just so different than me. It's a carefree nature. Yeah. 

[00:28:07] Ta-Myia: Yeah. Instead of being a Virgo, we're like trying to perfect.

[00:28:09] Ta-Myia: Sure. Mm-hmm. Is that line correct? Is this in the right spot? But abstract is just like, all right, you just let your emotions flow. And that's why I find hard to be a artist, because you gotta be vulnerable. That's probably why I haven't even done any artwork in a long time, because you gotta be completely vulnerable.

[00:28:25] Ta-Myia: Mm-hmm. And 

[00:28:25] Tanya Murphy: that's really hard. It is hard to be vulnerable. And that's that's the conversation I do have with myself sometimes. How vulnerable are you willing to be? How, how transparent mm-hmm. Are you willing to be? And that's with the physicality of the artwork. Mm-hmm. As well as the, the thought process involved in it.

[00:28:46] Tanya Murphy: And, and just those spiritual voices that I get. I, that's what I call them anyway. And I, if I listen, I think that I come up with some really great things. Yeah. When I listen. Mm-hmm. 

[00:28:59] DJ And?: Man. [00:29:00] Oh, sorry, I have to just insert this. So do you feel, and, and I always like to understand folks the, the way that they process their art, you all sound like you all work cause I used to have.

[00:29:10] DJ And?: In college, I took this class was a professor and she's a a classically trained violinist. It's amazing. She would play first us in class. I'd be like, wow, it's the best thing I ever heard in my life. Cause you get to hear it lot, right? And she would tell me all the time, I know I'm great at this, but I like jazz music.

[00:29:25] DJ And?: And I was like, why? And I would ask her that. Cause I like jazz music too. But I would ask her, I'm like, why? And she was like, I just think that jazz musicians are so amazing because they can move off of just pure, raw emotion. I can't do that. I need to have this set down. I need to make sure the composition is correct.

[00:29:41] DJ And?: I want notes where they're supposed to be. I want to hit my marks. That is what gives her the satisfaction in doing and creating and performing the art with a jazz musician. It's just, all right, I'm gonna go out here. This is how I feel right now. Freestyle. And you're not getting this freestyle. So that's what, so when you're creating your work, you like the control of the environment, [00:30:00] is that correct?

[00:30:01] Tanya Murphy: Yes, but I also like the emotion too. Mm-hmm. I'm two-sided. Okay. So how did Christian, how do you I think the works that really expressed that the most would be the series I did in 2009. I showed it at, I had the exhibit at the African American Museum in Philadelphia. Mm-hmm. What started out as photographs ended up.

[00:30:25] Tanya Murphy: With this, these brushstrokes these haphazard patterns running across from me, painting random and fast-paced, and using tissue papers and pulling, and just scrubbing and, and building up and carving figures. All these things came out of my brain was like, just, just put these dolls on them or just, just, just do the, and I'm thinking, no, that doesn't make any sense.

[00:30:49] Tanya Murphy: You know, I don't know. I don't know how to do that. And I was afraid of doing it. Yeah. But I just did it anyway. And then I started painting on it and scrubbing and rubbing, and people would think it's made [00:31:00] out copper or made out of, you know, they wouldn't really be able to figure out the substrate or, yeah.

[00:31:05] Tanya Murphy: You know, I'm like that's my photograph there first, and then there's this carving of my great-grandmother, and then, then there's the paint and then the paint's falling down, and then between the, the carving of the, the blouse or the, the necklace and, and then I'm rubbing it and then I'm pull, you know, I like, I really did the emotional aspect of those works.

[00:31:25] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. And I don't think you can look at my artwork and not see emotion, even if it's a photograph. Mm-hmm. Because like I said, when I'm on the landscape or if I'm in the neighborhood or wherever I am, I'm really thinking about it and mm-hmm. And, and so I don't take that picture until I have some emotional content that I'm trying to portray.

[00:31:44] Tanya Murphy: And when people look at my work, they say, oh, I, I get chills, or I get goosebumps, or I'm feeling a certain thing universally, I'm feeling this energy. And that's because I think I am being pretty successful with getting that across, [00:32:00] capturing emotion. It's, it's an emotional feeling for me and I'm trying to capture it and then, you know, portray it.

[00:32:05] DJ And?: Man, that's amazing. We have to move on to this cause I, I know I'm waiting to ask about this, but 

[00:32:09] Ta-Myia: I love you. That goes into our next question about ancestral downloads. So I literally just signed up for this like ancestral free summit cuz I, you know, you feel things and things and you hear things about your ancestors guiding you throughout life.

[00:32:24] Ta-Myia: So I was like, this is the perfect question to ask her. When I was looking at your work can you tell us a little bit more about your experience and interactions with those particular spirits and how did you stay connected and attuned with your 

[00:32:35] Tanya Murphy: spiritual leaders? Wow. Okay. Yeah. When I read that, that proposed question, I said she or he must have looked at my work and, and understood.

[00:32:51] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. And understood. Not only see it, but understood mm-hmm. What I was trying to portray. Mm-hmm. And [00:33:00] I didn't know at the time what it was. I, I, you know, I hadn't read or. Even explored that you know, on a real, in real terms, right? I grew up with a grandmother who was super religious, but spiritual in that she would say things like the stories, you know, the, the stories that are in my head, they're not scary.

[00:33:27] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Yeah. They were haunting. Mm-hmm. But not scary. And that's, that's the way I wanted my work to, to come across. Mm-hmm. It's, it's something that stays with you, but it's not there to intimidate you or to scare you. Yeah. So when my grandmother told me the stories, she didn't tell it. In a way that would scare me.

[00:33:47] Tanya Murphy: Like she would say, oh, I saw, you know, this little person, or this thing happened right after your grand Greatuncle died. Yeah. And I would say, really, how [00:34:00] long afterwards do we get these visits? You know? Yeah. As a Virgo, you know, I'm going, okay, you know, I need to, now that sounds crazy, but I'm gonna go with it.

[00:34:12] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Now, Tell me more. Mm-hmm. Was it like hours? Is it two days? Is it within a week? Am I gonna get this in a week? Or how's this gonna happen? Is it gonna be a flicker light? Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, so those are the stories that my grandmother on my father's side told me. Mm-hmm. Okay. And she's the one who I really think about as being from the deep, deep south, although both my grandmothers were from the south.

[00:34:37] Tanya Murphy: Okay. They lived not far from each other. As a matter of fact, my grand Wow. Just like we're sitting right now on the North Carolina, South Carolina borderline. Yeah. That's how my parents were. Wow. My father was on the North Carolina SI side, and my mother was just on the borderline of the South Carolina side.

[00:34:52] Tanya Murphy: Oh, wow. And they met and they, the, the whole family, you know, got to know each other. Yeah. And they ended up going north. [00:35:00] They ended up. Getting married deciding who they were going to date. Cuz there was a lot of kids between them. Yeah, of course. You know, and so my, my mother ended up with my dad and, and then when she was old enough, they got married and they moved north Okay.

[00:35:15] Tanya Murphy: To Philadelphia. And everybody migrated to Philadelphia. Mm-hmm. A little at a time. So one uncle and then another aunt. And then help, they would help each other get here. That's, and then they moved down the street from each other. We literally could walk from, within an hour I could walk from one uncle's house to the next uncles to the next and then end up in Germantown.

[00:35:33] Tanya Murphy: You know, so we would get all over Philadelphia that way from just visiting. Like I said, I had 15 aunts and uncles. Yeah, sure. And we all had. We all had uncles and they got married and they had kids. And so I ended up with 75 first cousins. Good god. First cousins. I'm not talking about second and third cousins.

[00:35:51] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Cause by the time, by the time we got to 13 and by the time we got to my grandmother's, when she passed away at 104, [00:36:00] she had 175 between the first second and the third cousins, it went that deep. This don't make 

[00:36:07] Ta-Myia: no sense how much it was. Story is alike. So big. Our stories are so much 

[00:36:11] Tanya Murphy: alike. It doesn't make any sense.

[00:36:13] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. So you come from a big family 

[00:36:14] Ta-Myia: too. I just have, one of my grandmas died at a hundred and fourth. Okay. And I had family in Philadelphia. Oh. Shut the front doors. And then my great-grandma had 12. 

[00:36:24] Tanya Murphy: Wow. All right. This 

[00:36:24] DJ And?: day's gonna be real 

[00:36:25] Tanya Murphy: interesting. This is so weird. 

[00:36:27] Ta-Myia: That's funny. And we're both Virgos, that's what I'm saying.

[00:36:29] Ta-Myia: Our birthday is one day after each other. 

[00:36:31] Tanya Murphy: So 

[00:36:32] DJ And?: y'all pay attention to the 

[00:36:32] Tanya Murphy: motorcycles. No. Sunday. On Sunday. Yeah. We're Moon, I have to call my daughter to find out what that's all about. Yeah, please. Do you know she's in the 31 year old there. There you go. The, the bottom line is my grandmom used to tell me stories.

[00:36:47] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. That did not scare me, but intrigued me. Mm-hmm. And so I would look for things in the atmosphere. Yeah. Because I was told they were there. I agree. Yeah. [00:37:00] And my sister is the same way. You know, if I give her a statue, she's she'll put it there just to appease me. Oh, thank you. That's so nice.

[00:37:07] Tanya Murphy: But then I'll come back to her house later and its gone. And I'm like, so what happened? Really nice statue I gave you. She comes to visit me and I have my room that she stays in. Yeah. And I come in there. And she's got the curtains drawn, all the statues are turned down and things like that. And I never realized how she is real reacted to Yeah.

[00:37:33] Tanya Murphy: What my grandmother and her perception, she's a sad, so her perception of spirit, what's going on around her is different than my perception. Yeah. But I, I didn't realize that what, how people took my artwork and my daughter who was raised by me as a single mom for most of her young, no, I got married again.

[00:37:54] Tanya Murphy: She was three. From three to 16 or 17, she had a, she had a dad figure around. Yeah. [00:38:00] And her dad was always, Around. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But she told me that she was scared of, of my artwork and she called it spooky, but I didn't think about that as a little kid. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, growing up your mom is doing these carvings and Yeah.

[00:38:14] Tanya Murphy: And paintings with photographs and all these old southern landscapes and Yeah. So it's funny for us to talk about it now. Yeah. You know, but I, I felt the download before I understood that that was what it was. Yeah. I just felt like I was being haunted uhhuh by Hey, explain that by hints, which is what my grandmother told me.

[00:38:37] Tanya Murphy: They were called Hanks. They're not saints, but Hanks. And so I always figured that my ancestors were trying to guide me or tell me something even before I knew Yeah. To receive it. Mm-hmm. In deciding to receive it is when I really was able to open up my mind. Mm-hmm. Once I really was able to receive it, then I receive it, [00:39:00] then I started reading things and, and, and it just opened my mind completely from the spirituality that I grew up with.

[00:39:07] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. And going deeper and really understanding mm-hmm. A lot, lot more. And so that's where I'm at now artistically. It's like when something's really involved in your brain that much, you can't help but turn it around and put it in your artwork. Absolutely. And now it's gonna keep haunting you.

[00:39:25] Tanya Murphy: Exactly. So that's where I'm at right now. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm being, I'm being, I'm downloading things that don't necessarily fit my character in my artwork's character from the past. Mm-hmm. But it's still a part of the journey. Mm-hmm. And understanding our energy with nature. Mm-hmm. More universally, more humanistic, but also, also just not so much figurative, mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm, I'm in, I'm, I'm involved right now with again, exploring the landscape. Mm-hmm. The, the, [00:40:00] the, the latest work I did involve me transferring ink with large leads that were dried and, you know, finding the beauty in, in their transition and all that kind of stuff. So I'm having a lot of fun with that.

[00:40:13] DJ And?: Do you feel that the environments channel, the spirits? 

[00:40:18] Tanya Murphy: I, I can't say that per se. Okay. I, I go to where I'm being, where I think I might find a little bit of encouragement or inspiration. Yeah. But. You know, in this, in the heart of Philadelphia, you're right in the middle of the city. You're 

[00:40:31] DJ And?: right.

[00:40:31] DJ And?: That's, that's a And that was what I was wondering, because I know, like you said, you're, you're taking these southern southern scapes and, and transforming them, but coming from a city scape Yeah. The, the, the feelings that you get, they have to be totally different. A cityscape is, is tw is way different from our southern landscapes down here.

[00:40:48] DJ And?: Because I know my brother and I, we grew up and lived in New Haven, Connecticut for a few years, and I just know the, the vibe of being there in a city, the smell, the move of movement of it, et cetera like that, it's totally different. So when we came down [00:41:00] south, like when people say everything slows down you Yeah.

[00:41:01] DJ And?: It slows down. Mm-hmm. Everything's, but then you can see things differently too. Absolutely. That slowing down process is a good thing. And I know our grandmother, she always explained it to us when we were young. She was like, Hey, you all had to come back down here to be raised. She said, you couldn't be raised well up there.

[00:41:16] DJ And?: I used to always say what does she mean by that? It was fine up there. It was cool. Like we had everything. It was right in their hand. Everything was moving quickly. But as I got older, I started under understanding what she meant by that. Just the spirituality of being close to where our people are from.

[00:41:30] DJ And?: And I know Kevin and I, we were always teased about this, but my grandmother, like she was, she was geechy and our folks from Charleston and they carry this large spiritual background, especially of, even though they're Christian. Mm-hmm. Oh, it's different. Mm-hmm. It's a little different. Oh. I'm sure. You know, it's a little different from the normal thing, but they're very into the spiritual understanding of your ancestors.

[00:41:50] DJ And?: That's right. And getting those downloads is important. And I know as, as children, we were lucky cause we had to live with her for a few years. Okay, good. She downloaded that into us so we don't act normal. I saying we [00:42:00] don't act like normal folks our age and from our demographics. And they're like, why you acting?

[00:42:04] DJ And?: Like I said, because my grandmother raised me for two years. Mm-hmm. So we had to learn things a different way. And I'm just wondering It seems like you've had that effect on your life. Mm-hmm. Especially coming. Absolutely. Yeah. The guy came from a large family man. So you had to 

[00:42:17] Tanya Murphy: experience it. The family, my uncles, they were like my dad and my grandmom was my she says mom.

[00:42:23] Tanya Murphy: She's my second mom. She, she did live with each of us for a certain amount of time. Excellent. So she did live with us for a little while. Mm-hmm. She just went from family to family, and she ended up staying with my, my aunt mostly. Mm-hmm. Which was really, really close. But then she moved back down south for a little while, and then when she, she got dementia eventually and had to come back up to Philadelphia.

[00:42:45] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. But yeah, she, she was the first to really you know, To, to make me think outside of what I saw what I thought I saw directly in front of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just, just think about, [00:43:00] you know, the possibilities of outside things outside of what, what's supposed to be normal. Mm-hmm.

[00:43:05] Tanya Murphy: Exactly. And yeah, it was a different language altogether. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, when she was laying in bed just before she passed away and she was staying in the dining room, one of the last conversations we had, and she'd have probably done not, she didn't really know who I was, but she was looking past me and there was a grate on the door, cuz you have to have your doors graded in this, you know, with a gate.

[00:43:29] Tanya Murphy: So the gate was beautiful with It had trees on it. And she said, oh, look at the trees and so and so and and it's moving and, and I said, yeah, grandma, that's so-and-so and and my aunt said, Marie, which is my middle name, she says, why are you talking to mama like that? And you know, there's no trees out there moving.

[00:43:46] Tanya Murphy: And I'm said, That's her and I having a conversation. Mm-hmm. And I see what she's saying. If she's saying it, then that's her reality. That's what it is. Yeah. So I'm gonna confirm it for her. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Anyway my family, as a matter of fact, they, [00:44:00] they were funny about my artwork. They were really funny about that artwork.

[00:44:04] Tanya Murphy: They said, why are you down there? Because they moved to Philadelphia child. And they're like, oh, we don't wanna think about being in the fields no more. Exactly. We're city people there. We don't wanna think about having all that hard work. We did. Yeah. And I said, aunt, because it. My, my work at the museum ended up in a, you know, in the newspaper front, front page and all that kind of stuff.

[00:44:24] Tanya Murphy: It was a really big spread of inquire, and then all of a sudden they were like, wow. Mm-hmm. This is nice. I never thought about it that way. It was so crazy and never thought about it that way. This is, I said, I'm, I'm honoring you and what you did. I'm honoring your hard work. Yeah, yeah. Giving your flowers.

[00:44:41] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. I'm showing you, I'm showing you, I'm giving you your flowers so you know, I'm not doing slave picks. This is. This is my aunt and uncle in the land that they harvested. Yeah. This is, this is, this is the, this is my mom when she wanted to go to school and, you know, had to work the farm. I'm just saying, I I hear you.

[00:44:58] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. I see you. I see you. [00:45:00] I see you. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, this is, don't, I'm not just trying to forget about it cuz it's uneasy to think about. Mm-hmm. I'm saying to my child or my grandchild, look, you know, we took care of this land. Yep. And this house that your grandmom left. Your grandmother, who left it to you?

[00:45:17] Tanya Murphy: To, to, to me. Who, who? I'm leaving it to you. We used to plant our watermelon here and you can always go back there and plant something. Yeah. And have some food. If the government doesn't shut you down. Wink, wink, wink, wink, wink. But what I'm saying is, That you have land that you can grow something on. Yeah.

[00:45:34] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Self power. Yeah. Yeah. It is. And and you have to think about it that way. And that's what we forgot moving up to the city Yeah. Is that we can feed ourselves. Yes. You can plant some food. And you know, my husband and I moved here and we love North Carolina. Mm-hmm. And we love the fact that we can go out in our backyard and plant some collard green.

[00:45:54] Tanya Murphy: Do you do that? Yes, we do. We do. We cut, we plant col and we're both, he's from New York. Oh, wow. What part? [00:46:00] Br he's from Manhattan. He's right from, okay. Oh, he's city boys. 

[00:46:03] Ta-Myia: He's right straight from the 

[00:46:04] Tanya Murphy: city. Okay. So y'all collaging whoa. Yeah. So we're, we're down here trying to be southerners. That's so crazy.

[00:46:13] Tanya Murphy: Trying to plant seeds. Yeah. Literal, literally. Yeah. And you know, I'm like, honey, we don't know what we're doing. But by the second year or the third year, we, we had a nice figure August of collard greens and, and kale and spinach. That's, that's amazing. And ca not cabbage, the other ones Brussels.

[00:46:31] Tanya Murphy: Sprouts. Sprouts. Ooh. Yeah, we did pretty good. Okay. Oh, okra. Mm-hmm. You know, I turned them, I turned them out on some okra cause he wasn't eating that. Oh, wow. I had. Nice. You gotta put it in. That's, you gotta know how to do it. That's great. And I did, I turned a lot of people out on Oprah who swore that's, they would not eat Oprah.

[00:46:48] Tanya Murphy: And I'm a city girl. Yeah. But when I make you some Oprah, they turn around and they look at me with a funny face and I said, what's wrong with you? What's wrong? Yeah. Say something and they say, I can't [00:47:00] believe I'm eating. 

[00:47:00] DJ And?: No. Yep. That's 

[00:47:01] Skip: good. But you know what I love about this conversation? And this is something I know me and my brother have been talking about for about the past two or three years at least.

[00:47:09] Skip: And I know I've heard someone say this before, but really what it comes down to is, especially when it comes to Black Americans, like it doesn't matter what part of the

[00:47:25] Skip: Yes. Scott, pardon us 

[00:47:31] Tanya Murphy: doing, Stephanie. You enjoy yourself. 

[00:47:34] Ta-Myia: You up next. You in a hot seat next. 

[00:47:36] DJ And?: And I'll tell you this, I'll tell you this. You don't realize how like everything is threaded today. Yeah. For a reason. Everybody's here. Yeah. You see it paying attention, right? 

[00:47:46] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. This is cool. Yeah.

[00:47:51] Skip: All right, go ahead. It's what I was trying one of the things that we've been talking about on me, my brother over like the past two or three years, and this is something, maybe this is like a long, long-term project [00:48:00] we're thinking about. Yeah. But a couple years ago, I remember I was, I forgot what I was listening to.

[00:48:04] Skip: I think I might have been watching something on TV or documentary, but it talked about black American culture. Meaning from, of course it start all the way to contemporary, like modern day and. How, despite us being folks, being located in different parts of the country. Mm-hmm. And us being located in a lot of urban environments.

[00:48:27] Skip: Mm-hmm. At the root and at the core, we're all southern. Mm-hmm. In culture. Mm-hmm. No matter how far we try to remove ourselves away from Detroit, 

[00:48:37] DJ And?: Michigan, what I'm saying, Chicago. 

[00:48:40] Skip: But we all have those same roots and those same ties, and it's neat hearing those stories because there's a book, as a matter of fact, this there's an awesome book you need to check out.

[00:48:49] Skip: It's an audio book, but then you can also read it too. It's a book about the Life of Dapper Dan. Yeah. 

[00:48:55] DJ And?: That book. Yes. Yes. And when you read that 

[00:48:57] Skip: book, One, the, like in the first [00:49:00] chapter or two, he talks about his roots. 

[00:49:03] DJ And?: But you were doing the same and you were doing the same thing. 

[00:49:06] Skip: And so this is what so this is what he shared.

[00:49:09] Skip: So his family is originally from Darlington County, South Carolina. Yeah. But he was explaining how black folks got up to New York mm-hmm. In Harlem, especially during the early twenties, thirties, like during the great migration. Sure. And what happened was people would move in on blocks. So basically towns.

[00:49:30] Skip: So if everybody was from this one town, they would all live on this block that was on block. And the next block you'd go, so you'd have somebody like, you'd have folk from Greensboro on one block. That's, and now another block you'd have somebody from Fayetteville. Yep. And then across from that then, then across from that block, you'd have folk from Spartanburg, South Carolina.

[00:49:46] Skip: Wow. And. And that was like that until the fifties and the sixties. And what they did was they tore down all that housing. Yeah. And they built up the housing projects. Yes. And what they did was they disturbed [00:50:00] community. Mm. 

[00:50:00] DJ And?: And through all of them in one spot. So you had disparate communities. So for instance, if you had Marion and Mullins County, you had folks from there, they would put 'em together.

[00:50:09] DJ And?: And where you didn't have dysfunction before, now you created dysfunction. Because you merged them, you forced them to more emerge. It was what we see now with the issues that ran, that we ran into in the eighties. 

[00:50:20] Skip: Yeah. And even influences of things like the hip hop culture and all this stuff is all these things are factors warming 

[00:50:26] DJ And?: at this same time norm.

[00:50:27] DJ And?: Yeah. Yeah. But it all starts It's interesting. Starts, yeah. It's very interesting. But he, he start the way you were talking, it was just funny cause we listen and that's why I was hearing, I was hearing him explain his story. This is why my family's here. Like you said, each person moved up slowly, but then surely everybody came up to, and you could do what?

[00:50:40] DJ And?: Walk from house to house to house and end up on. Sure. Because y'all community, that was the community that's right from the south. That's just. Like I said, it was cool that she just said that you don't have to say nothing. That's how you know it was real, what he was talking about. Yeah. Let's find out.

[00:50:52] DJ And?: Interesting. I didn't expect to hear that today. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It 

[00:50:55] Tanya Murphy: caught 

[00:50:55] Ta-Myia: off guard. But I know when I'm up north, like when I'm visiting my family, I can only stay for a [00:51:00] certain amount of time. Cause I'm like, we're the birds, we're the trees? Like I need to see, I need quietness at night. I don't want to hear sirens and people hollering from the rooftop of the city.

[00:51:11] Ta-Myia: I need quietness. So that's how I know I really like the south. Even though I have family of north, I just, 

[00:51:17] Tanya Murphy: I, this is home. Yeah, absolutely. It is. It was, it was the feeling of coming home. Mm-hmm. And I, I've never adapted to an environment so quickly as I did when I moved here five years ago.

[00:51:29] Tanya Murphy: Wow. Mm-hmm. Wow. Love it. And I can't think of anywhere else I'd wanna live. See, go south. Go all right. Oh, 

[00:51:37] DJ And?: I guess to wrap up today, we always like to end with this question because of course we're millennials trying to learn how to adult, and so we ask, we gotta ask practical questions. Yes. So how do you balance your everyday life by and still create art daily, while also being in the community?

[00:51:56] DJ And?: How do you do that in your life? 

[00:51:59] Tanya Murphy: Okay, [00:52:00] I'm going to. Share a little bit of what I call middle-aged wisdom. And I, and I tell it to my daughter who's, who's 30. Yeah. You know, I think you guys are hard on yourselves, really hard, but, you know, there may be a reason for that, that I don't really connect with.

[00:52:19] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. One thing the older people used to say, and I'm going to use it and I do use it now. Yeah. This too will pass. Or what's the other thing? You know, just wait time. You know, it'll, it'll, it'll work itself out. So balancing life, life has a way of doing what it does. Mm-hmm. And I've began to think of myself as not so much a charging at it anymore.

[00:52:46] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. As opposed to just riding with it. Riding the way, riding with it. And And that's just something I've seen over the years. Mm, I, I would stress or frustrate myself about a certain thing or a certain [00:53:00] quota or a certain agenda that I had. And then it was, it really worth all that stress and aggravation to my body now that I know what it, it does it.

[00:53:11] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. No, it really wasn't. Um mm-hmm. Like in motherhood, it's you, it's never perfect, you know? And I only have one child, so I'm not the one to talk about people who have multiples, cuz I'm sure it's a lot harder mm-hmm. With multiples. But you know, watching a child grow is just, just sort of like the younger version of your life.

[00:53:35] Tanya Murphy: So when they're a teenager and they're going through that, Awkward place and weird phase. Guess what? It's gonna happen to you when you hit 50 again. Oh, it comes again? It does. Oh wow. It doesn't, just cause you did it as a teenager doesn't mean that you not gonna hit that awkward phase again. Yeah. At, I don't know, it could be 40.

[00:53:58] Tanya Murphy: 40 for you or, [00:54:00] or it could be 30 for you, or it could be 50 for you. It's a wave in the vibration that you just got to either get with that vibration or you can, you can, you could try to, Mix it up and figure out, you know, yeah. But my daughter was gonna be a teenager and go through the teenager thing with her teenager friends.

[00:54:24] Tanya Murphy: So you gotta, you gotta go along with it. Okay. Who's your friend? Yeah. What is that person gonna bring into your life? Mm-hmm. Okay. So what's that little dilemma going to bring? Mm-hmm. Because she had one friend who was a cutter. Got you. And then she had other friends who, who had hot tubs and, and parties all the time.

[00:54:42] Tanya Murphy: And then she had other friends who were. You know, she had the celebrity life cuz she was going to a, a friend's school. A a Quaker's school. Yeah. So I was telling you that. And you know, she had everybody and she had friends who would come home and she would come home and say, oh, so-and-so said he could say this because his daddy and [00:55:00] his mama's is, are our lawyers.

[00:55:01] Tanya Murphy: And I'm said, but the, okay, so the point being that you don't know what's gonna come into your life. And so when you approach life I don't know, we don't control anything. That's the lesson that I learned. Yeah. I don't control much of anything. I can control my energy, my spirit, try to meditate.

[00:55:18] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. Or pray whichever way you wanna describe it. Mm-hmm. But that's the only thing I'm trying to get a control over. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now how much artwork I do, I don't beat myself up with that anymore. Good. Surprising. That's 

[00:55:29] DJ And?: nice to hear. 

[00:55:30] Tanya Murphy: I don't, because I, I did at one point. Yeah. I would beat myself up.

[00:55:33] Tanya Murphy: Oh, you didn't, you didn't produce it. Produce today enough. Yeah. But it's always going on up in my mind. Mm-hmm. And if I don't put it on paper, I already told you I'm, I'm a lazy painter, so I'm not, I'm not gonna doodle Yeah. I'm not going to pretend that, but I might read a book that's given me the visions.

[00:55:50] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. I, I realize that reading will also inspire my creativity. Mm-hmm. Hmm. And so whatever, whatever you [00:56:00] do that day that you can say is inspiring your creativity. That's the way I look at art now. Mm-hmm. Like today, it's reading a book. I started reading a book by Hawkins about, you know, you know, neutrons and photo, you know, all that stuff.

[00:56:15] Tanya Murphy: So Times photo. Yeah. All that stuff. I started reading that and, and I'm like, wow, that's really deep. And so I've been surfing, you know, the Goodwill for books. Just you know, what, what are people getting rid of? Yeah. Yeah. You know, so I'm like reading, you know, these books are brand new. People are like, aren't aren't books.

[00:56:33] Tanya Murphy: That's crazy. But yeah, no, you're 

[00:56:34] DJ And?: right. What is that? They have, I dunno, Kindle man, you got a Kindle now. 

[00:56:36] Tanya Murphy: I'm not trying to pat my eyes on a computer like that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, I'm rejecting that. Mm-hmm. There was a point where it was a little trendy for me. Oh yeah. Computer everything. Computer everything.

[00:56:47] Tanya Murphy: I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's. I don't feel that. Mm-hmm. I wanna turn a page. Mm-hmm. I wanna fall asleep with it on my right, on my lap. Yeah. For me, right now, that's, that's what I'm doing for my little hobby thing is cuz I don't [00:57:00] have a hobby. Yeah. No, no. Hobby is shopping, probably buying clothes and, and not not, not clothes that aren't already used.

[00:57:07] Tanya Murphy: I like to recycle everything. So I buy everything. Already maybe born or, or somebody didn't want it. Mm-hmm. Why didn't you want this? I refurbished it. Yeah. Or I, you know, whatever, you know how to say it. I give it away. Yeah. I sew, I can fix things up. Yeah. Fix things. Yeah. Yeah. So to me, that's creative.

[00:57:24] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. So what I don't do is fresher myself to just do one thing creatively. Mm-hmm. So I can say for today, this was very creative. Oh. This conversation was created from my mind. And I'm gonna find the book by Dapper Dan. I'm gonna read that. Yep. I, I, I wanted to get it when he first passed away and, but I just didn't do it.

[00:57:44] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. But, but to answer your question, I do try to touch my art somehow every day. And that's, but I just don't put pressure that it has to be the exact thing that I'm doing. If I just wanna go in there and, and look at it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because 

[00:57:57] Ta-Myia: sometimes you just gotta look 

[00:57:58] Tanya Murphy: so far away.

[00:57:59] Tanya Murphy: Sometimes you have to look at it [00:58:00] far away and then say, oh, I get it. Because Lemme tell you what, when I go to sleep, it doesn't shut down. Ah, I had to learn to shut it down. Mm-hmm. Mm. Because I don't wanna go crazy like a Van Gogh and just cut my ear off. And people don't wanna see's Good 

[00:58:14] DJ And?: point, valid 

[00:58:15] Tanya Murphy: points.

[00:58:16] Tanya Murphy: That's not the end I want. That's valid point. That's not the end I want. It's, it's not that serious. Yes. I live, I'm a person. I, I wanna have a family. Mm-hmm. I wanna enjoy my husband and I wanna spend time with my daughter. Mm-hmm. You know, so art used to be a thought that in my mind, where it had to be all in everything.

[00:58:35] Tanya Murphy: No, it's not that I wanna a life, I wanna enjoy myself. I wanna go to the beach. Mm-hmm. I wanna, I wanna just lay on the couch sometimes and read a book. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I don't pressure myself that way, but when I do get in that place, and I'm gonna be honest zone completely. When I get in the zone, I'm in the zone.

[00:58:51] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I respect the zone. I give it a hundred percent. And my husband has to come knock on the door or say, baby, did you [00:59:00] come to bed? Did you eat? So did you eat? I'm still here. Did you feed me? Yeah. Yeah. Did you wash the clothes? Yes. So when that time happens, That's when that time happens.

[00:59:13] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. And that's the person that I am. Yeah. But I can't be that all the time. Because I don't want to be that all the time. I wanna have a life. I, I, this is my third marriage. I don't want, I learned that lesson. Yeah. That I just can't be that crazy, selfish person to just sit the studio and don't make time for any, I don't want that person.

[00:59:33] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. I learned I don't say the hard way. I'm happy that I'm with the husband I'm with now. Yeah. But I learned that it wasn't, it, it's not everything. And then sometimes I feel bad about my daughter. You know, you can have guilt the rest of your life. Mm-hmm. I'm like, oh, did I bother you when I said Don't call me mommy.

[00:59:48] Tanya Murphy: You know, I had to ask her. Yeah. I had to think. Was that a problem for you? Yeah. And she says, oh, I got it. It was funny. I'm like, no, really? You can tell me. Yeah. Because I had a 6,000 square foot studio [01:00:00] Yeah. Slash house. Yeah. So half of it was the home. I was married to an architect this, that time. Oh, wow.

[01:00:06] Tanya Murphy: And so he he's an artist. Yeah. And so we had our, our battles of art at that point, you know, so he was a different, let's say if I was right side, he was left round, you know, left side. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So he, you know, we had this big place, and so my daughter's bedroom, and then my studio was on one side, and then her bedroom, you had to come through these big dark barn doors.

[01:00:26] Tanya Murphy: And that was in that side. And then he had his office on another side, and then we had a living room and the other side. So it was more like a museum here. Mm-hmm. And a house here, and yeah. Her bedroom. And one day she said to me, you know, mom, can I just have a bedroom with doors? Mm-hmm. Regular doors.

[01:00:43] Tanya Murphy: Never thought about it. I never thought about it yet. Like she didn't have privacy. Mm-hmm. She didn't have, because it was cool. Our friends loved it. Oh, we going down town? Yeah. We going to Aria's spot. Yeah. You know, we can just run around in this big loft. And she's I don't have doors. I don't, she's one of the simple room.

[01:00:59] Tanya Murphy: Mm-hmm. [01:01:00] Yeah. So what I learned is, you know, there's, but that was my thing at the time. I was gonna be this big fancy artist. Everybody was gonna know me in Philly and that's how I really, I was that, yeah. You lived a life. I was living that life, you know? And you know, you can look at the city and an, but anyway, the bottom line is the pressure you put on yourself is what you put on yourself.

[01:01:20] Tanya Murphy: You gotta decide as an artist, what's every day. My decision is, okay, I'm gonna wake up, I'm, I'm gonna be a person, I'm gonna be an artist. Mm-hmm. I can be an artist person. I can just be a, you know, just, just a wife today. Mm-hmm. You know, n no problem with saying that. Get your intention. I have no problem with saying that.

[01:01:37] Tanya Murphy: I love the fact that people are going back to, oh, I just wanna be a housewife. I'm like, really? Some millennials are saying that, like some are, some are, yeah. That's like a thing now. Yeah. It's 

[01:01:47] DJ And?: and that's a. Drastic 

[01:01:48] Tanya Murphy: change. It's a drastic change because I think people, when you see in life, like if you just, you know, okay, I could push myself every day.

[01:01:55] Tanya Murphy: Lemme go out there and get the job, make all this money. Yeah. And then what, what? I didn't, I never [01:02:00] had kids. I, you just have to decide what you want to do. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That's my advice. Decide what you wanna do. Don't put these pressures on yourself. I don't do it anymore. When you at a certain age, you like honey, baby.

[01:02:11] Tanya Murphy: You know, that's why the old people used to sound like that. I'm like, are they serious experience, nonchalant, rubbing hands money in.

[01:02:26] Tanya Murphy: So for me, now that I'm in my mid fifties, late on the later side my, my thing about art is it's a part of my life and it should help me enjoy myself as a person. Mm-hmm. And not put all these stress and strains. I don't really, I would love to be in another museum show that's going to happen. I already know that.

[01:02:47] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. But what age that is? I don't know. Mm-hmm. Look, I'm gonna do art till I die. If that's 80 or 90, I don't care. You know, I'm mid-career and I'm not gonna, I'm gonna enjoy myself now. Yeah. At this stage. And maybe I'll have some [01:03:00] grandkids one day, I don't know. But the, the bottom line is I don't wake up every day saying, oh, what art am I doing today?

[01:03:06] Tanya Murphy: If it's not inspiring me today, or I'll just make it my camera and just go for a walk. Yeah. And sometimes it just might be my phone camera. Yeah. You know, I used to be, oh, carry the big camera. Yeah. You wanna, as soon as you don't have it, 

[01:03:19] Ta-Myia: you're gonna know why. That's when you're gonna need it. I missed, 

[01:03:21] Tanya Murphy: I've missed that shot.

[01:03:22] Tanya Murphy: That's right. It's not, those pixels are too bad on my phone. Yeah. I, you know, I, I beat myself up too much. I like, nah, I'm not doing it anymore. That's I just try to balance, I try to eat a good meal every day. Start off my day. Yeah. That's my balance. You know, getting my, getting my health together.

[01:03:38] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. Have a good relationship that's decent. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, and do a decent amount of art either in my head or on, on, on some physical playing. And that's it. That's, that's all. That's how I do it. 

[01:03:51] Ta-Myia: That's, do you have any upcoming works or projects to talk about or that we can look forward 

[01:03:56] Tanya Murphy: to?

[01:03:56] Tanya Murphy: Yeah. There's a show I'm doing it's Black History Month, I'm just gonna say it. [01:04:00] Okay. So every Black History month, somebody's gonna call me about showing somewhere something. Yeah. And I used to take offense to that. I, I'm not gonna lie, I did, know, so you only called me a February? Yeah, I'm, I'm Black History 365.

[01:04:14] Tanya Murphy: I call me in March or April and say, Hey, you wanna just show some of your work? Yeah. Yeah. So I did have a problem one time, like I'm, I'm not artist or my black artists, my work black artist. Is it just, I can stop with these labels. Yeah. Okay. So it's Black History Month. It is what it is. It's systemic.

[01:04:29] Tanya Murphy: This is what we know it to be. Yeah. So when someone called me and said, Hey, we're doing a Black History Month show, would you like to do it? For me it's exposure, so why not I, I'm always gonna say yes. Mm-hmm. So there's a show in Clover right outside of Lake Wiley mm-hmm. That's happening this month. And I'll be in that.

[01:04:49] Tanya Murphy: As far as that, I'm getting ready for the spring and just, Doing some spring's, always good time for me with shows. So I'm doing some of that, but I'm working on getting an art gallery again. Oh, cool. I to have [01:05:00] three. I had one in Detroit. Okay. Which I still have. Hey I'm part of the organization called The National Conference of Artists and there's a gallery in Detroit, which I've never visited and I feel bad about it, but that's okay.

[01:05:11] Tanya Murphy: You gotta make it out there. Yeah, I'll make it out there. And I have a really good girlfriend from Detroit. There's a reason to go. But I had a, a gallery in Boston that closed. I had one in Philadelphia that closed, but I'm looking for some Southern ones now. So I'm looking for Char in Charleston. Oh yeah.

[01:05:24] Tanya Murphy: That's where I'm from. Are you, I'm looking at a gallery in Charleston and they're following me on my Instagram, so I'm looking at them too. Yeah. You know, it's, it's a two-way street. Yeah. You got at to fit and Yeah. They had to fit you. Yeah. I'm looking at Atlanta and I'm looking at DC area and Baltimore area area.

[01:05:40] Tanya Murphy: Okay. Okay. That makes sense. I would love to come check 

[01:05:43] Ta-Myia: out an exhibit, you know, once you get everything 

[01:05:44] Tanya Murphy: going. Yeah. Once I show some new work, and you of course, you know, I'm at the art league, which have mm-hmm. I been for a year. Oh, 

[01:05:52] Ta-Myia: you, you like that? Like now the, since we visited last weekend, we're like, okay, we love those place.

[01:05:57] Ta-Myia: Awesome. It's 

[01:05:57] Tanya Murphy: brand new. It hasn't even been open a year. Really? [01:06:00] Yes. Yeah. No, it's not lying. It's not even a year. It's, wow. So I know when four, three or four years, it's going be jumping. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It's not even a year. June. Wow. That's why it was good 

[01:06:08] DJ And?: to go visit. Yeah. 

[01:06:09] Ta-Myia: Excellent, excellent. Love. We got first, first eye duck on everything and we got you guys on it.

[01:06:14] Ta-Myia: So did you guys check 

[01:06:15] Tanya Murphy: out the 

[01:06:16] DJ And?: second floor? The, oh, you know, we did. We know. I'm noticing nosy. You went Roman Good 

[01:06:20] Tanya Murphy: nosy with it. Good, good. I didn't get your, your sign. I'm trying. Wait. Lemme get, lemme guess I'm a guess cancer, but I'm not sure. Pisces Libra? 

[01:06:31] Skip: No. 

[01:06:33] DJ And?: Enigma 

[01:06:36] Tanya Murphy: Capor? Nope. What are you just I'm 

[01:06:38] Ta-Myia: an Aries.

[01:06:39] Ta-Myia: Oh, you never, I would've never guessed that. 

[01:06:41] Tanya Murphy: Not from, not just from I would've to go out party, but I told you 

[01:06:47] DJ And?: Im being good today. Behavior. He is. Zip I didn't hit my mic yet. A nut. That was good. Good. But I, I really enjoyed this conversation today. I did too. I know. We're gonna come and see [01:07:00] some of your work, and hopefully we'll have another conversation in the future.

[01:07:02] DJ And?: Don't forget about us when you, cause I'm sure I, when you finished blowing up more, right? 

[01:07:07] Ta-Myia: When you get 

[01:07:07] DJ And?: your autograph now. Yeah. Seriously. Before, before time. But We're gonna close up today. We appreciate you joining us today, Tanya, here on the Hilltop Glove Podcast. I know our listeners are gonna enjoy this a lot.

[01:07:19] DJ And?: And then I think when we get the rest of these interviews today, it's gonna make sense. The thread that goes through all these, it's 

[01:07:24] Skip: really interesting. Let's talk about a lot of 

[01:07:26] DJ And?: spirituality today. Oh, 

[01:07:29] Skip: theme today. 

[01:07:30] Tanya Murphy: People can always see my work on my website. I don't know. Please, please Drop. Drop it.

[01:07:34] Tanya Murphy: We're gonna drop. Ok. It's juice. It's j it is not like orange juice, but it's j o o s e. Like moose with a J. Mm-hmm. Moose for the J it's juice is a spinoff of the word juice, like the juices that flow. And that's why I picked the name. Ah, I used to podcasts called J called Juice Unleashed. That's 

[01:07:51] DJ And?: what he told.

[01:07:51] DJ And?: Yes, yes, 

[01:07:52] Ta-Myia: yes. And and what about your Instagram? Where 

[01:07:54] Tanya Murphy: can they find you? Tanya Murphy artist. Okay. Make sure you put the artist on the end there. Tanya Murphy Artist. Thank 

[01:07:59] DJ And?: [01:08:00] you. We thank you for joining us 

[01:08:01] Tanya Murphy: today. Thank you. Appreciate it, you guys for having me. It will add a lot of fun. Yay. All right.

[01:08:07] Tanya Murphy: That's a wrap. There you go. 

[01:08:08] DJ And?: Alright. Made my day. Thank you so much. Thank 

[01:08:11] Tanya Murphy: you for 

[01:08:12] Ta-Myia: dealing with our coffee store. I told you it was easy. It's like a.

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