The Hilltop Glove Podcast

Gerard "Gripp" Richardson | Move B**** Get Out Da Way | Episode #29

January 28, 2022 The Hilltop Glove Podcast Episode 29
The Hilltop Glove Podcast
Gerard "Gripp" Richardson | Move B**** Get Out Da Way | Episode #29
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THG interviews guest Gerard “Gripp” Richardson. Gripp is a Columbia-based jib crane operator, music producer/engineer and entrepreneur. He is the owner and operator of Gripp Tight Productions which specializes in professional jib operation and cinematography. Gripp is a 2021 Emmy recipient and has worked on projects with the 2014/2018/2022 Winter Olympics. He has also worked live performances for: Red Hot Chili Peppers, Widespread Panic, and Kanye West.

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[00:00:00] Ta-Myia: Good morning and welcome to another episode of the Hilltop glove podcast. I'm your host to Maya, as well as skip Mike and DJ. And today's special guest goes by the name of Gerard grip. Richardson grip is a Columbia based jib, crane operator, music, producer, engineer, and entrepreneur. He's the owner and operator of grip type productions, which specializes in professional jib operations and cinematography grip is also a 2021, Emmy recipient, and has worked on projects with the 2014 and 2018 winter Olympics. 

And he has also worked with live performances with the red hot chili peppers, widespread panic and Kanye west. So thank you for joining us this morning grip.  

[00:00:42] Gripp: I man, one piece, I would say that. 

Yeah, how's everyone feeling good? I know we had some technical difficulties this morning, but I'm just going to blame that on the solar eclipse last night, 

[00:00:58] Ta-Myia: given things for, [00:01:00] for being here. But you know, I've known you for a minute now and I really want to keep me on this show. So you of course was like a mentor to me. So can you tell the people a little bit about yourself and how you actually got started your backstory? Just take us through that, that journey. 

[00:01:16] Gripp: Okay. Well well I started, you know, I started out feeling music and I say that by saying I started out by dancing, you know, I got into. I would say the hip hop scene, I got into that by dancing. You know what I mean? My first time on stage was what, 1994 the stop, the violence tour. It was over 5,000 people in the house and they were, they were local fans and they knew us and they were screaming our names. 

So it was like so, you know, I came into the game, you know, dancing and then I transitioned into you know, MCN rom and things of that nature shortly after. And then I would say around [00:02:00] 1997 is when I would introduce into producing music. And what really got me about that was to be honest with you guys, it was just the fact of seeing someone's head. 

That's what I was after I was out of control, controlling people from a distance, if that makes sense, you know what I mean? So but you know, that, that kind of, that little small window there, it, it all stemmed from how I was raised, you know being one of 14 children, I'm the 12th of 14 children. Yeah. 

And my father he's was a pastor and you know, just that the the church thing, it was, it was definitely church for me coming up. So, but, you know, with all that being, being the case my father was he was self-taught with instruments and I, I, yeah, I can recall about. At least seven, eight instruments that he was [00:03:00] self-taught with, you know, let's say the harmonica the accordion, the the steel guitar, the guitar itself, the bass piano by land saxophone, like all these were toys. 

These were things under the bed as a, as a child growing up. So, you know, I, I mean, it was, it was music for me, so it was, that was my upbringing. So I had to do music it, in my case, you know what I mean? I, I actually had to do it cause that's all I was introduced to, you know, and with older brothers, you know, they with my father being Like, you know, count on that Joe Jackson thing, you know what I mean? 

He would he would have them rehearsing in the living room. So it wasn't furniture. There was a instrument. So I grew up with instruments and they had a reel-to-reel tape recorder, all that type stuff. I knew what that was, you know, had indications of knowing when it was time to come back into the room.[00:04:00]  

Once you hear that tape one tape, you know, fills up on the other side, the tape begins to flat like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that was an indication, okay. They finished recording. We can go around and now small little stuff like that, man, just growing up, that kind of led me to where I was. So that's why I said, I, I, I feel music. 

I started feeling music. I started by feeling it  

[00:04:23] Ta-Myia: pretty cool. That's pretty cool. So do you have a favorite instrument?  

[00:04:26] Gripp: A man. Me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Hey, you know, grip is what I go by. Buddy grip is an acronym and pretty much everybody is a grip or they can find the grip. And the grip is pretty, you know, the acronym stands for groove, a rhythm instrument, pattern and phrases. 

And there you got, you got life.  

[00:04:54] Ta-Myia: The first time he told me that I had to think for a second. I'm like,  

[00:04:56] Gripp: wow. 

[00:04:58] Ta-Myia: And [00:05:00] I really liked the, you are a part of beat con. We really got to see, you know, you as a producer and engineering and  

[00:05:10] Gripp: it was amazing. Like  

[00:05:11] Ta-Myia: you have a different skill set, you just have a different sound. I really appreciate that avenue. But tell us a little bit about your beat tape and that you had. 

[00:05:21] Gripp: Oh, okay. Interesting. Well, well, you know, the thing about it is the, the beat tape that I'm working on is pretty much a title at 1982, because 1982 was a year. I was, I was seven years old in 1982. And just, you know, from studying, reading up on a few things I learned that, you know, children, when they're born up until the age seven, eight years old around that age, they learn by what [00:06:00] they see. 

Isn't, it's not what, they're what you're telling them as a parent. It's, it's what they see. That's what makes the grown person that. It's what they've learned in that channel and that, and that specific timeframe. So what I learned again, what I explained to you guys earlier, I learned music. I learned instruments. 

I learned how to make stuff, how to meet creative. So, you know what I mean? So along the way, there were ups and downs. There were things that happened, you know, issues or whatever the case may be life situations. But what also came out of that study was learning that after an issue happens to a person, they create ways to hide that thing. 

If they don't know how to express it. And that bully that you may have witnessed, or you might have been, you know, in elementary, growing up, you were the first one to be, [00:07:00] to me that was hiding. It's true. You know what I mean? So I dated the, I titled the beat tape 1982, simply because of that, you know, it w it was, I was able to go back to where I remember, okay, this is all I seen growing up. 

Oh. So I make music. So why don't I do a beat tape code 1982. So, you know, that's kind of where that was stemming from. So, you know, again, it was, it was a drop some jewel at the same time, but you know, at, at, at the same time still display what I do and you do  

[00:07:33] Ta-Myia: it very well. We do it. I have to give you that. 

 So for the people that don't know what a JIP operator is, can you please break that down a little bit?  

[00:07:43] Gripp: Certainly I'm a gym operator is they're, they're considered to me in the grip department. If you're familiar with a film set and the grip department is responsible for I would say support [00:08:00] things of support moving like light stand you know, camera, the GM again to Dolly. 

You know, the Dolly is what a camera sits on and you track a shot, sits on a track and rolls back and forth. So it's in that department. Camera's support, you know what I mean? But I'm a camera. That's what  


[00:08:20] DJ And ?: was wondering. Yeah.  

[00:08:22] Gripp: That's what I am. I get what a deal by operators, but I am a cam operator. I'm a, I'm a, just, I'm a creator. 

You know what I mean? In that sense. And I go there and I stayed that because simply I say camera operators so people can understand it. But in actuality, I'm a music producer because what I do with that machine is produced beats. Okay. That that's, I mean, I got an Emmy for daytime, you know, TV show up, but I produce music. 

So that's what you received from me. But that's what they judge it to be was cam a gym operator. So [00:09:00] to sum it up, it's a long crane. It can extend to, you know, six feet, 12, 18, you know, until four. And you, you placed a camera on that and they have what they call a hot head on it, or a remote head where the head is remote. 

It has two axles you can pan and you can too. And you actually have some that have the third actual that where you can roll the camera kind of role. So you're controlling those three things all at the same time while you're panning and controlling and booming the actual job itself. And, and depending upon how skilled you are, you can then op you you are able to operate and fold like the focus and the zoom at the same time. 

So it is, it's a multifacet thing to me, that simplicity, because I it's controlled, like, you know, I'm a control freak. I got to have control of what I'm doing. You know what I mean? So [00:10:00] that's how I was introduced to it. And my, the guy that introduced me Chris Rhodes, you know, big up and Chris Rhodes he introduced me to the geo by, you know, explaining these things, you know, being able to have that control. 

So to me, what I seen when he, when I seen him first building it, the first time ever seeing that on set, I immediately said to myself, that's a sound. Like I said, like, it's, it's a sample, like, to me, it's a, it's the process of making a beat. Do you know what I mean? So that process in that process of making a beat each part, each section of it, as you build it to me is like a sample. 

So you put your load, the sample up until your doll or your, your beat machine and you have, you have them loaded and ready. So once you once did complete and built, all right, I'm loaded and ready. So whatever the assignment is, okay. Now I began to be creative [00:11:00] as a producer. You know what I mean? So say for instance, you and RB artist, you come into the session. 

I don't need to be making a rock music. I need to be making an army song. So when I'm shooting I would say a church, something like a church, even regardless, or believe it or not, there's a beat that exist. And you have to find it and then you have to join it. You have to become one with it. You know what I mean? 

So that process is constantly happening when I approach. So, you know, a lot of times I don't want to know who the artist is or the band. So that, that surprise of being creative is always there.  

[00:11:49] Ta-Myia: Yeah, it does not. I'm thinking about watching these church services when I, when you're watching it on television and you see how the camera zooms in and out, it's really like an emotion, like  

[00:11:59] Gripp: yes, [00:12:00] that's amazing. 

Yes. Yes, it is. It's a very unique thing. Again, I I apply, you know, my music, you know, those ski, that experience to the whole concept of it, because it's like a bad, you know what I mean? You take a band. If one instrument is out of. Don't guess what? Hey dude, what are you doing? Hey man. Get it together, man. 

It's an immediate thing. So it's the same thing. When it comes to a production, everybody is a band member and we have to acknowledge that from the, from the beginning, like the director is a band member. Your producer is the actor band members. We're all band members. But let me come in now to tune you understand how important it is, you know, that we got to work, that we come together, you know, for that, for that one thing, which is to create something that, that that's magical. 

Yeah. [00:13:00]  

[00:13:00] Ta-Myia: Now, can you explain to us, like who influenced you as far as music? Like what did you  

[00:13:06] Gripp: grow up? Oh man. Awesome. That's a great question. I grew up listening to gospel music and. That was first because that was how it was raised. But I would say mom's unfortunately had older brothers and these cats introduced me to everything in the world. 

You can imagine that had, that had funk in it. You know what I mean? So a cameo, the earth, wind and fire. I mean I had a word, a real wide range of music influentially so I mean, I, I would give it by genre or categories, I would say because it was gospel. It was R and B. It was country. My father loved concrete. 

Yeah. I knew who Charlie [00:14:00] pride was. I bet I can guarantee you most of you guys. I know who shot you. Pride 

pride, man. Pride. So, you know, Roy Clark, you know, he hall, but it was music music. So you know, things of that nature. So I mean, steely, Dan, I grew up listening to it was that type of stuff. Dave, what's his name? John Denver. Like it was, it was music. You have to understand what I'm explaining because music do not have a job. 

Like it doesn't have any genre color. Doesn't have, it just is what it is. You know what I mean? And when you get in tune with. Then it becomes you truth. Yeah. So in my, my, my biggest influences was I would say Dan music, music that, that consisted of a band didn't matter if it was a band, [00:15:00] because it was all about everybody coming together, doing their different things. 

To make that one sound to me, it's a family and born in a big family. You gotta understand. I relate everything back to what I, what I can, what makes sense. You know what I mean? So it's just a band to me. It's just a family. To me, it's a band, one, beat one sound. You know what I mean? But you still have to be in tune. 

That's why we came here. We came here and performed this one song that, or this one. And that's kinda how, you know, the bottom line is. So my biggest influence is pretty much band band music.  

[00:15:39] DJ And ?: Oh man. Is there any, any specific type of band music that you like listened to yourself? Like big band jazz is going to be brought to you, like classic rock pop, anything like that? 

[00:15:50] Gripp: I tell you what, there's a band. They they're out of the new, I think it's the men. I think they were college students [00:16:00] in, in Boston somewhere, something like that. I don't want to be quoted wrong about that, but the name of the band, or I know these, the name of the band and they would have abandoned the Boodles band. 

D O S the old band. Yeah, the Boodles. Listen though, those guys like the music, it's like every song is a movie and it's an actual scene. Wow. You can see it. It's beyond feeling it. Like you can see it, you vividly see it. And they're wanting that like, and I was introduced to them in 20, 20 2014 on in Sochi when I was in Sochi Russia. 

Dan is  

[00:16:44] DJ And ?: cool, man. I was speaking, speaking of being in going to Sochi Russia, of course he known it to filmed and more part of creating an extremely amazing image experience over at the Olympics. Could you talk to our audience [00:17:00] about your decision to change course and take a risk, a big risk and, and leave Columbia to go and pursue your career in the film industry and how did it affect the people around you? 

[00:17:14] Gripp: Okay. And we'll say, well, that's a great question. Well, very at that time I would let me see. I will submit the best way to sum it up is and 20 10, 20 11, I would say that's what? 10, 14 years. 14, maybe 15 years since I started making beats in 97. Let me be honest with you guys. I was fed up. I w I wasn't done with Columbia. 

Dang. I know I was. I know, but I want to be clear. Like I was, I had written this place off. It was, it was done. It was completely done. Meaning as far as music and coming together, you got to [00:18:00] understand what I, what I explained to you guys and express where, where my bases are, his family dog, come on, man. We can't have a problem with talking to each other. 

We can't be fighting, trying to kill each other every time we got a problem. And. Yeah. And then you can't bring a nonsense and rap over my beats. I'm a little bit more crazy than you. I got questions that I need to ask before you can, that I need to know that you can think beyond if you capable of trying to wrap that stuff over my music. 

And I recall, you know, asking a few questions before sessions and rows, weren't able to record because their, their mental brain capacity was like, what did you just ask me, man? I'm just, I just got shot. I just got, I just killed some. But what did you just act? Yeah. Like, cause I'm serious about what I just asked you where, so you, so it was those things and I just kinda got fed up. 

Like I was done. I was burnt out with, with trying and I will stress the word trying [00:19:00] to help because that's the biggest problem I think in the world is when people try to help people when people don't want that help. Yeah, this problem, biggest problem. And so, you know, I had got fed up and I couldn't reach no more out to nobody else. 

Didn't want to talk about music. Didn't want to be talked to about music. So I was like, I gotta do something else, like I have to, but what is it going to be? So long story short, you know I met back up with an old friend, you know, out in Cali that I met here and a female and she was a good friend and we reconnected on Facebook and this You know, just kind of stayed in communications, but at that time, before that time, I was, I was, again, I was at a point like, okay. 

I mean, I'm, I'm managing a smooth jazz artists at the time. I'm, I'm trying something different. I'm [00:20:00] managing, you know it started carwash, you know, managing a restaurant, you know, and living out a studio all at the same time. Wow. And but it was like, man, I gotta do something different. So I began to, you know, well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this right here before that, because in 2008, I, I ended up at quantum beach over there and I was there for a year and there, I was introduced to, you know, filming or video cam quarter for the first time. 

 Feel them a few artists that will come in after they record a song. And I immediately  


[00:20:45] Gripp: how to put the two together, meaning I know the lyrics they mouth need to match up with. So I already knew that visually how, how to do that, because I'm doing that visually with the artist, without [00:21:00] the image. 

You see what I'm saying? So it was like that Amy is like, you didn't, you didn't have to ask me that. So I was introduced to that there and ended up, you know, open down doing things here and there. And you know, tested and just getting experience, but not really saying I'm a camera guy or anything of that nature, or, you know what I mean? 

And then I get, and then I get introduced to a job to do where I needed artists asked me to edit some footage. So I edit the footage and the video came out pretty nice. It, well, at least as I was concerned. And, and, but again, I, I was at that time, I, I didn't, I wasn't full aware that hold on, this, this is that thing, though. 

This is a thing like that ASR 10, or that, that, that curves world 2000, you had it back in 97, it's the same exact, and you [00:22:00] have that same exact feeling grip. It's like, it's nothing, it's all identical. So I began to then, you know, ease my way into learning the lane. I needed to learn the language. The point was is this is the thing I live with. 

There's nothing in the world I can't do. I can promise you that there's nothing in the world. I can't do. It's all about whether or not I'm interested or do I have time to try to, I agree.  

[00:22:25] DJ And ?: I liked that. I liked that mindset.  

[00:22:26] Gripp: Yes, sir. You know what I mean? So with that, it was like, okay, all right, so I'll, I'll get it. 

It's just, you know, so I began to learn the language I needed to learn the language because I already knew how to do it again. And again, I'm already editing, meaning I'm sinking up this, this artist lyrics as he's recording. I have to sync it up with this beat. And if he's not on sync, bro, you got to do this over again. 

Can we do this old game? I don't want to enter it over. I don't want to nudge it over, bro. You got to go perform this. Right. [00:23:00] So that was my thing. So I already knew how to do that. I just needed to learn the language. Like what are you talking about? Input in court? Like what, like what are you saying? Cut Jay cut. 

Like, what are you saying to me? So I learned a language once I learned, I learned a little bit of the language all the way. Okay. All right. This ain't enough. So I got on another project and I'm 22, 20 12, 20 10. I just got on the project and ended up realizing like, you know what, I shot it did it. And I was like, all right. 

It's a wrap, meaning I was able to do the complete process by myself. Oh shoot. That was the thing. I mean, I shot it, edit, and then I was able to look at it, like playing back it's it's just, you know, it goes back to the music. My whole thing was a beach play in my head. Like when I hear a song, I wasn't here, the whole song, I [00:24:00] was hearing the drum, the inch high hit by itself. 

I hit a scenario, say I hit her. I can tune in each instrument. So I hear it all. I can break them down, but I need to know how to put them back together. And that's what I was interested in with the machines. Like I'm doing this internally. I don't need that help. I just need what, how you do this on the machine. 

So long story short, putting all that stuff together, man, learning a language and getting to that point and learning that language, learning the bare minimum of that language that I was capable of doing that. That's what drove me to going online and saying, you know what? I need to go. I need to get out of Columbia, first of all, but I need to go. 

Where, I don't know, nobody, like, I gotta actually be fending for myself because South Carolina is a place where I'm too comfortable. I can fall out of, I can fall out the front door and be in somebody's house of safety. And it's like, no, I don't, I don't want that. You know what? I [00:25:00] need that for where I'm at right now. 

You know what I mean? So, yeah. I needed to challenge, you know, New York I've been in New York. I lived in New York for a couple of months. I've been to Florida family in Florida. I'm not going to Atlanta, Texas is halfway saying that you have, we want to do something. No, I said, I'm going to L  

[00:25:23] Ta-Myia: let's talk about getting out your own way. 

[00:25:26] Gripp: Oh man. That was the whole objective, you know getting out of your own way. I came up with an acronym and all right guys, listen, let me, let me patent this first and how 

now, what it is is I came up with an acronym and that acronym I was looking at, you know godly. Well, actually, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say this. I heard I, you, well, that's what happened. I was like, what is I heard ludicrous song. Let me be straightforward. I think this was before or after what I'm going to add this. 

I think it was before [00:26:00] I came up with the concept, but I'm going to add it, but the ludic and ludicrous song. You know yeah. The way it goes, get out the way, get out, do what, and I slow that down and you will get, get out the way you got G O D right way. And I was like, Hmm, that's the way right there. It's not my way is  


[00:26:29] Gripp: I was saying to myself. 

It's like, it's not my way. It's never been my way. I've been living for 37 years here. It is 2011. I'm 37. I'm like, I've been living for 37 years and I'm still here in this position. Something gotta be wrong. That'd be wrong with me. So that's what I began to figure out. Like, you know, it's, it's been me the whole entire time. 

It hasn't been nobody. It hasn't been no situation. It hadn't been [00:27:00] nothing but me because I've been, I've been me my whole entire time. So who am I? Who else am I going to blame Steve bro? You know what I mean? I mean, it's, I mean, dude, to me, it's still the first day I was born. I mean, I mean, if I hear the stories of the sun rising and said, and I get it, but bread is still the same day. 

It's still the same day. You know what I mean? So once one, that was the key of getting out of my way, because I realized grip you second, guess yourself about that scenario 10 years ago, you second guess yourself about that scenario yesterday? You, you, you, you, you don't have the confidence you need in yourself to do that. 

Why D like these were actual the, the in your wage and those things, all of those things. And the first thing a person will do is become afraid of those things. Why though they become afraid of those things, because it's them, it's [00:28:00] them who wants to acknowledge that they're a failure. Exactly. They nobody. 

So you afraid of that. You, you F you afraid of it. You run from it, you run, you do all kinds of stuff. Listen, I'm gonna tell you, I'm explaining it to you like this. I became the most creative person running from it. I became the most deuce. Emmy is a result of my creativity from running from myself. Yeah. 

So you become your most creative when you run from yourself. So I figured out if I was running from myself and if I began to run to myself and I still be creative, I can imagine what I'd be able to accomplish. Then the, I  

[00:28:38] Ta-Myia: mean, our mind is just everywhere.  

[00:28:42] Gripp: Right? Well, it goes everywhere because we can't forget. 

Remember what I said to you earlier about the beat tape? 1982. Everybody beyond the age, seven years old had something happened to them that they might have not dealt with. All right. So they became a creative, [00:29:00] they created something in habit or anything that goes to cover that thing up. So they'd be mad. 

They mastered that.  

[00:29:09] DJ And ?: Yeah. You know, what's wild about that. So I recently started listening to the will Smith audio book.  

[00:29:17] Gripp: Right. And one of the main themes  

[00:29:20] DJ And ?: of the book was because of what happened to him in his childhood. Like you said, around that age range, and particularly with the domestic violence that he experienced at home with his father, his mother and his father, and particularly his father he learned how to. 

Entertain and make people laugh. Cause he was like, well, this is my way of keeping people safe. Cause he was like, if they're laughing and if they're sick, then they seem as if they're having a good time, then they can't hurt no one, they can't hurt me. They can't hurt my brothers and sisters. They can't [00:30:00] hurt my mom. 

They can't hurt me. And it was, and so with his personality, he developed that whole entertaining that, that lad, that comical side, as a way to that creative piece, as a way to protect themselves from those things that harm that at trauma experienced at that young age  

[00:30:18] Gripp: where I, or I mean, and you know, I mean that's pretty deep, you know what I mean? 

 Because. You know, another one, one of the other reasons why I came up with God, whereas for the simple fact, God is in you, you are where you are. God, we are, God like everybody. And the thing is I grew up, bro, listen, I can pretty, so I'm pretty sure all you guys can agree and your audience, everybody grew up or they were raised there. 

They grew up in the church. You, you are afraid to say that you are Lord. Yeah. It's simply because of the program. That's that's it. But, but, but let's slow it [00:31:00] down and realize God is in you. If he created exactly, let's go beyond he, it created you. It is in you. So it is you. So why would I be afraid to even acknowledge that? 

Yeah. Well, I get it. It's it's, you know, it's what they call a rabbit hole. You go down. If you go there and I'm prepared, I don't think the channel may not be prepared to go down 

[00:31:29] DJ And ?: a rabbit hole. Now  

[00:31:31] Gripp: I know. I mean, bro, I mean, I'm saying I'm I'm there because the thing is, is God is in you and I'll test anybody to argue me about the fact God ain't in him. Because if you exist in to argue, then God is already in you. He created you to be there arguing.  

[00:31:45] DJ And ?: Exactly. Exactly. It's funny. I tell him all the time, everything that you fight against is right in front of you. 

It's the same stuff that you've been reading and testifying on, et cetera. It actually backs up and tells you what you're supposed to be doing. But again, I think it goes back to what you're [00:32:00] saying too afraid to go be a weight yourself. And again, yeah,  

[00:32:04] Gripp: man, I just don't want to 

afraid of it. I've been afraid of it. I'm speaking that because I've been afraid of it and it's true things that I'm still afraid. I wouldn't say afraid of, but it's like, listen, you know, let me calculate that, 

calculate that. So, you know what? This is, this is the actual magic though. You know, that your audience probably would appreciate once you, once you begin to realize the first part of that, of getting out of your way, you realize that it's a universal. Yeah, you will, you will realize everybody is suffering from almost the exact or either worse type thing that you had actually been suffering with. 

And when you begin to see those things in people, it will cause you to be the God in that, in that way. You, you know what I mean? Because we are here for [00:33:00] people we're not here. We're not here for ourselves. We're here for people. That's going to take a lot of growing out, not growing up, but a lot of growing out of your old way of thinking, you're not, I mean I heard a brother, I, I heard a brother say one. 

 I think it was a post I read, I can't put it together, but it was they say after a certain age, you, you grow up like 18 or 20, like you're done growing. At that point, you got to grow out variety, old ways of doing things. You know what I mean? Cause once I add it to it, once you watch, you know, I've never tried to change myself. 

I've never tried to change myself or anything about me. I'm gonna be honest. And I say that to say, this is simply because I have to change the way that I do things. The way that I say things, the way that I accept things, the way I think about them, that's what needed to [00:34:00] change. Not. Because, yes, because on the back end, the results of me changing the way that I do things or see, or re like, approach or say things the way that when I changed that you will see the change. 

Right. So when you, yeah, so when you see the change and receive the change you go, you're gonna be, you're gonna it's confirmation to you, that board and change. 

That's what it is. But you only change the way that you did things. Exactly. It's like changing your outfit. If I changed my outfit, you mean telling me I got it, change with it. 

Yeah. I'm just, I'm still meeting meaning. And then I go here is principles. The reason why I was able to apply the principle of music to film is because the principle never changed. Only the outfits I see. Or the language, the language. See, because you go to China, you go in, they punch [00:35:00] somebody in the face. 

Tell him, Hey, hello, listen, you might get a shot when you use it. Okay. You don't get into some sushi. Okay. So that's what I'm saying is the principle doesn't change. You don't do that. That's that's, that's beyond universal. That's the principle. So, you know, the principal, when the principal never changes, that's what I, I mean, I'm attracted to the printers. 

Because if the principal don't change and let me change outfit, don't you ain't, you ain't gotta change. Let me change. Yeah, exactly. Let me be creative from that point, but give me the principal.  

[00:35:38] DJ And ?: And do you think that's a, and I like that that's a good outlook to apply, especially. If you're, if you're somebody who's looking to go follow your dreams and to do something that you, that you love to do or that you want to do, especially if you're changing or moving from, from one career aspect to another as some advice as advice, people, I think they [00:36:00] should take to heart is by you saying just this, like lit your change, your outfit, change that, change the outfit. 

You're you're, you're still you, but it changed the outfit, the accent, and then behaviors. That's that's some deep advice. It works, man. We're all it took me around the world three times and I, and I'm on my way out. I'll cross across the globe again, bang. You know, you shoot the 20, 20 two Beijing, winter Olympics, man. 

[00:36:29] Gripp: Hey, all I say is get out your way. May ain't ain't going to happen. Think about it like this. If you aren't there. Just think about that thing that it is you want to do, or you, you look, if you're not there you're you could be at, you can be at the starting line, spinning wheels, blowing up all the little snow, 

but your partner over there gripping, granting, like he gripping he's gone, but you spinning wheels looking old. Good and [00:37:00] cute. But somebody else is moving. You know what I mean? So, so it's about, it's about that's that's the get out of the way part, you know what I mean? It doesn't look like I say it like this too, you know, I'm in a race, a car race who wins the race. 

Isn't a car to driver. Oh, 

[00:37:25] DJ And ?: Good Lord. Are they indistinguishable 

in the car is just a machine that people work  

[00:37:32] Gripp: on it. Yeah. Just something you have to use. You have to use it. That's why, that's why in grip. G R I grew up. Instrument. It's the I in the middle being an instrument because you are playing you going to be played for the rest of your life. Whoever think he ain't being played. 

Let me, let me put you in a bowl game. Well, how deep you want to go and you'll you'll pop well, [00:38:00] you play, you've been played already cause you in front of me. Exactly. See that's where I'm at with it because you are an instrument. Everything. If you exist, you are an instrument. That means you are being played. 

Meaning just think about it like this right now. I am an instrument in your podcast. You guys call me invite what I'm being used in your podcast. Okay. You guys are in your whole podcast is an instrument in my life. As I move on you being used right now, I created it and I'm going to use it. So that's what people do. 

But again, you know we become afraid when we want to be told to do everything. Right. Yeah. Everything. When you want to be told to do everything, 

it can  

[00:38:47] DJ And ?: be hard. See, as he said this this is a nice little transition being, having, having to actually take on it and mantle that responsibility. It can sometimes be daunting. Especially if [00:39:00] it's something, if you're jumping into a new endeavor, something that you haven't done before, but you know, it's where you need to be at. 

That's where your love, that's where your passion is. You need to make a move, you need to make a change. Like we were talking about getting out of your way. You're trying to do that. Have you explained to audience because sometimes people are hard. It's hard for some people to be their own boss. And that, as they're saying, like people they run away from this ability, could you explain how you pivot it into that, into the realm of film production, where you are while maintaining a level of success and being your own boss? 

Like, how do you hold yourself responsible? Especially from, as you change from doing one thing. And like you said, language and transition into this other realm of thinking and thought.  

[00:39:42] Gripp: Hmm. Well, great question. With that it it's, it's something. It's something that I realized I'm a slow learner. 

Believe it or not. I'm a very have to listen to songs. The reason why I was breaking instruments down [00:40:00] immediately, because I didn't, I didn't record what they were saying too quick, because one word can sound like another word. And I think they saying one thing and I'm trying to sing songs out loud and I'm all wrong. 

And then I'm getting picked out. So it's like, I just I'm done. I'm good. I'll just listen to the music. So I had to hear the song multiple times over and over, you know, to kind of get it. But the thing is, is when you're transitioning from one thing that you're doing to another I say you have to have a program running prior to the transition. 

Yeah. And what I mean by that is my first job. I remember my first job that I applied for winning God. I was in the 10th grade man. It was McDonald's. And I apply for them. 

Listen though, listen, I applied for this job and I was like, okay, when we, they say two weeks, you know, you paid on my phone. Okay. We [00:41:00] can have stuff. That stuff wasn't making sense to me. Why? Like, what is this week and a half before I get paid? None of that is making sense to me. So I'm a rule with this. 

What's that, but this was the thing though, in my brain, in the sixth grade. And this was before that job in the sixth grade, I don't know what the word entrepreneurial was. That's what I was going to be an entrepreneur don't do applications and all that. So I knew when I was signing an application in my brain, the program that was running was is that I don't work for these people. 

Yeah. I'm working with, I'm working with D folk. Cause as soon as something goes wrong, I'm out. As soon as something don't go my way I'm out. So that's the program that constantly ran since my first app. I never wanted to wait on that check. So the program was just letting me work with you. So if your incoming coming fast enough to build my plans and I'm out, that was the whole program. 

Exactly. So you, you get a [00:42:00] job, I will say to anybody, get it, but you go there with that program of working with them, don't ever program in your brain. You work for anybody but yourself. True. So without that program is going to be the not only the worse, it probably never will happen because of that program that runs. 

So you have to work with like, I work every job that I've gotten in Hollywood, you know, I work with. I know I can count to you. I can count to you meaning that my company would hire it.  

[00:42:33] DJ And ?: Explain that, explain that for the people, because as we kind of stand about yelling that company, explain what you mean. 

[00:42:38] Gripp: Yeah. Yeah. I I have an LLC and I set the company up to represent me because I worked for you. Meaning again, here's that program running. I work for, meaning me. I worked for myself. So with that program running, I set up my business and I I'm I I have history and setting up business, but I'm [00:43:00] having history and setting up a business the wrong way, very maturely going about it, but I needed to learn these things myself. 

So my first business was I started with when my daughter was born in 2000 and not knowing I'm not selling. You know, products and stuff like that. I got retail license and all kinds of stuff. I got to put a light. I'm like, oh my God, this is too much. So long story short. I ended up getting to a point to where they restart. 

I started the grip tape production to LLC. And with that, that was to represent me when it came to employment, work, things of that nature. Now I'm not the best. I'm the worst. When it comes to running a business, I can start it in new and due to work in sub or run any worse. So I've been learning along the way to incorporate, but up until this point, I've been able to do that myself too, to represent me because what happens is when when you do contracting, when you contract with a company, [00:44:00] you, you kind of partnering. 

So you, your contract, you a contractor, meaning. You're showing that you're capable of doing what you agree that you can do. And it's not like as  


[00:44:13] Gripp: employee or an employer, employer hiring you to your service provider. Yeah. You become a service provider. So that separates you, that puts you in a different place, a different status, a different standard. 

And that puts you in a different negotiating situation because, you know, I produce, I can reduce anything. Ringy I'll produce it. That don't mean I'm I may actually have to do it. See this, I knew from the beginning. So I was like, well, let me just start a production company. So I'll let that, you know, run ahead. 

And be, and be the thing that represented me. So when I would go out and when it would be 10 90 nines and things of that nature, what I learned in Hollywood and then LA was [00:45:00] that, you know, it was rare that they would want you to employee sign. It was always contract contract, this contract, they're kind of like, oh, I get the real, that's my lineup. 

So I did that. I got in place with that. And to be honest with you guys, I'm going to reveal a secret. I didn't open my first bank account to 2011. Wow. Yeah, man. You know, I've seen it open till then. Well, again, again, yeah, up until then. Well, again, there's some parts that I didn't touch on the longer way with the hip hop, when it came to music. 

I can honestly say I did not make a dime man in the middle, but let me explain that reason being, because I had got so used to hand in hand, I mean, God's come to the studio, they pay you, boom. Get [00:46:00] out, you know, come in and it can be boom, boom. Okay. That hand, hand transaction. That's what I was introduced to. 

Right. So when it converted it, Hey man, email send me an email people. Huh? 

Bruh. Nah, dude. 

I mean, I mean, seriously, that's what that was it because I was introduced through the underground, literally literally was introduced to music, dude underground. You understand hip hop was an underground against the grain type thing. So I was going to be hand-in-hand money and the mantra slab. 

So that mentality is why I'm saying that mentality is what actually calls me to miss out because it didn't convert over and processed the data that was being thrown at me because I didn't prepare the program or write the program prior to that. All right. Gotcha. So missed out. Totally. So that's what took me so long to get there. 

Okay. When it came to, you know, that you, you know what I mean? So with that being the case in 2011, when I got a check, I'm like, [00:47:00] yup, hold on. I can't get to jail. Well, what happened is I was getting paid and I was, I felt comfortable going to a what's it called? What's it called? The check cashers. They were banging me across my cranium. 

And I was like, okay, I'm done with this right here. And I was like, okay, let me try it. Well, that last one was like, oh man, this chunk right here. I can't, I can't let y'all eat this on here. I was like, all right. So let me go get your. So I go through the process and get the bank. And man, I promise you guys, it was the worst and the best thing that ever could've happened to me at the same time, because here it is, I'm unfamiliar with banking. 

I don't know how it works. I don't know how it operates. I'm not unfamiliar with fees. I'm like fees. Just listen, hold up my money sitting here. But why do I gotta ask you so many questions to get my like none of that stuff? So I questioned them because I was raw for real, like, I didn't [00:48:00] understand this, but a lot of other people were accepted expecting me to accept it. 

Exactly. No way. No way. I mean, the point was is whether it was a hustle or not just explain to me what's happening because if it's a hustle, I don't think I would dealt done it. I know it was  


[00:48:17] Gripp: thinking that I can believe what you guys are telling me up until this point of like, hold on. It's too many overdraft. 

Like what? I explained the branch overdraft. We have to be friends for me to have someone look out for me like that. So we're not friends. So please draft over the drop off me. We'd have to be friends. We've been apart, man. Come on, man. I'm not with that. I rely on my friends when I don't have it. Exactly when I'm friends. 

So take that nonsense over there. So I went back and forth day-to-day with them like four months to understand that it was, you guys are really just raping me. So I [00:49:00] slid my debit and credit across the table multiple times. Like, listen, I'd rather, you guys take this money and we give it to you and take it versus feeling like I'm being actually extorted. 

It feels like he's in the back of my head right now. So with all of that being said I was not conditioned to accept in certain things, so I didn't bow to that. So again, when it came to the money, paying me the money, going to get the money, I applied the same thing to the business, to the people it's like, listen, if I do this, or if you say, this is what the breaks are, , this is what I agree upon. 

You pay me in this time. This is what it was. So that business works better than being an employee. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Got it. And real quick question. I know we were talking about hip hop. Are there any specific lessons from your background in doing hip hop that you applied to your career or film life per se, how you shoot a scene? 

[00:49:52] DJ And ?: Would you say anything specifically influenced from hip hop?  

[00:49:56] Gripp: Yeah, it's definitely. I have to, [00:50:00] before I shoot a scene I don't know how you guys are rated, but I go pay my homages to nature. 

Yes. I have to pay my homage. Meaning I go there because I'm channeling, then I got a channel in, into something. And again, I liked this, the surprise of kind of not knowing who the act is or the artists, or even their songs. I can know who they are, but I don't want to know that song. I don't want none of that. 

I just wanted to hit me because that's going to allow me to create so, so it's like going to perform on my first time going to perform on stage, walking out there. Right, right before, you know what I mean, before it actually happens is where you have to ways where you're seeing. It's where it determines your skill set. 

Got you. Like right before you, like, if you're walking on stage, you can be in the dress room, you can be in the hallway, but right before you walked through that thing and you [00:51:00] go through that threshold and when you know, it's own, that's the magic. So I need to create that every time for myself, I always create it for myself. 

I'm just meaning that I just create my own little world I'm in my own little world. So, you know, I make sure that, you know, I operate, you gotta understand somebody walking in on set with that type of equipment. They at least need to know what they doing. You know what I mean? So, yeah. So you kind of got that kind of respect, but at the same time, there are certain things that I need and that kind of desire that I want and need there to kind of help me get there in order to make sure that you're going to get this at this type of quality. 

[00:51:42] Ta-Myia: So what type of sacrifices have you, have you made.  

[00:51:46] Gripp: I'll tell you this. I sacrifice my daughter was 11, 12 years old when I left, when I went to when I left 20 12, 20 11, 20 12. But it's not that [00:52:00] I regret that anything of that nature is just that if I was able to bring her on, like, I like I, in my brain, I thought I would have been able to do on a certain set timeframe. 

Then I would have felt better. Got it. You know what I mean? But she gave me my blessing and she was like I asked her my mom at the time, those are the two females that I needed that I felt honor to. And I asked, but I asked my daughter, I was like, you know, Hey dad got this opportunity to do this, this and that to go film school, you know, at least. 

And I told her, I'm like, Hey, I'm giving myself two weeks. Cause I knew him two years associate degree, you know, you can move from there. You can do so. So she was like, you know what, dad, you should, you should go and do it because you, you definitely don't want to be like laid on in life. Like you had an opportunity to do some and you didn't take the opportunity to do it, [00:53:00] man. 

I got up out of here so quick. I almost around to the airport and I'm outta here. I mean, I needed, that's all I needed. Know, like I need, I need certain things in order to, like I said earlier, do that, do anything that I want to do? And that was, that was one of them, you know what I mean? Disappointing my mother or, or, or my daughter. 

Like, those are the things that nine, those are the things that don't need to happen. You know what I mean? So, but that time timeframe to bring them there, there's something that would have felt. Yeah. Yeah. They can share the experience with you. Yeah,  

[00:53:37] DJ And ?: totally understand that, man. Do you have any advice you like that you could give to our audience, especially cause like the way you explained it, it made so much sense. 

Like, people don't understand that part. Like it, you, you, you could, everybody wants to be able to do what makes them feel good, but they want to do it with the people that also make them feel good. Could you explain, like if someone's trying to make the jump to becoming full time, [00:54:00] like how do you deal with the pressures of balancing that now, since you have the ability to, you know, since you're no longer at schooling for it, you're actually actively working in the profession. 

How do you balance that work and the work in life balance?  

[00:54:12] Gripp: Well, to be Frank. It's one. I don't want to lie and say that it's all this and that it's, it's one, it all ties together. The question is, is how do you tie it together? Yeah. Yeah. It's how, again, you know, don't, don't wallow to me saying you love me with a follow up right behind a Hawk spit in my face. 

Like how, how do I associate love with that Hawker spit? It's like, it's time to fight now. You know what I mean? So it's how, that's what I'm saying. It's all about how you do the thing. Is it, you know what, when like all that stuff matters to that point to where it's how I leave the house lash, because it's how you do it is how it's [00:55:00] done. 

It's gone, it's gone. It's gone. It's how is it? How you made me feel. That's how I remember you. Gotcha.  

[00:55:09] DJ And ?: So when, when, when having those two things, you try to perform in a way that allows for those two.  

[00:55:17] Gripp: To be one. Yes. Because if, if you look at up, then that means it came from down. Okay. So the two exists. The point being is when, all right. 

That's why I say when you got the, when, where wearing all that stuff, it's the how, and that's how you apply that afterwards. You know what I mean? Because up, up, up came from down in, I was out to get in something. So 

the point being is, you know, I, I tell you what I was  


[00:55:47] Gripp: about this coming over here. And I, and I, this is the truth over my life. I I've gained a skill to be able to freeze frame a moment in life. Remember it, analyze it for what it is, slow it down, break each [00:56:00] part down right there, and then go store. 

So you take a moment and you freeze it, meaning you take it and you focus in on the studies over it and find out what it is that makes you feel all that stuff you feel. And then you analyze it to be like, well, regardless of how you feel, bro, that ain't right. So you have to do these things with self before you go outside, before you get outside of that conversation with someone else, because someone else now can't hurt you or be able to like be, won't be able to take these things personal. 

You'll be able to actually, again, tune into. It's about tuning to tuning forks. You know what I mean? You got to tune man back to the band, back to the bang up. So that's why I say it all goes together. It has all the goals together, but then again, it don't because when it don't go together, how can you tell me, do like you can't, you can't put the two together, but the halt and the love, I love you. 

And spit. How do you put the [00:57:00] two together and getting the result you're looking for? I'm interested. Wait, sorry. I mean, I would literally sit there and wait. That's what I'm saying. So you freeze frame a moment, analyze it and see where everything that feels good. What bread that doesn't work. You can't spit in nobody face and say you did love him. 

Like, so you eliminate that and you move on. Other than that, you sit there and argue with anything thing that ain't going to, the impossible stuff to control. Like I couldn't control you for four. I couldn't control the person who. Yeah, just speak coming out of you. I can't control that. Right. But I gotta, I gotta control what I do. 

Right. So this is the issue. People have spent majority of their life trying to control the person that speak, 

ignoring them, ignoring themselves and arguing with self, and then trying to blame everybody else for that nonsense. See, that's tedious. That's chaotic. [00:58:00] I can slow it down because I, again, I learned how to listen and freeze frame the moment and mirror you. 

I mean, that's a desk, that's a grip. You're  

[00:58:11] DJ And ?: right. You're right. But I like how you took with you, which you do and perform your art, how to is based on a mindset and a way of thinking and looking at the perspective for the ride, because like she said, I'm not emailing. Man, you know how to simplify things properly. 

Like, so you don't have to get confused. Like I said, part of it, like I said, it's  

[00:58:32] Gripp: slowing it down. Like, all right, take your time. Slow that down. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's moving, it's moving that fast and think about the engine. See, I, I brought that, I thought about an engine, like the tension in it, you know, I seen the little Christian arm one up and then the other one is down one up one down. 

Okay. They have a threshold. What they call it threshold. Meaning it's going to that. And it ain't going to go no further. [00:59:00] That means there is a limit. That means I don't control it going beyond it. If it do the engine brakes, if I force it. So that's where, that's where you find out you can't force people to learn, learn. 

You can't force help on people. No people have to be accepted of that. That's a received thing. That's not a, a tape then they, they have to receive that, but you have to be there in order to offer it. Yeah, that'd be a vehicle at that moment, but these are moments. These are moments I'm talking about. This ain't an overall thing. 

These are moments. Yeah. These are moments that constantly change. The point being is, is. Mm. Mm, mm. Responsibility on yourself. Come on, man. Change them. Outfits, Brian. Hey, the house, man. I'm not in your house. I don't eat your food too. [01:00:00] It up. I don't do none of that. I choose my own food. So it's taking the responsibility to realize, you know, what works for me, worked for me to work. 

They don't work for you when you apply to your life. When it went in where and how it does. He's not the way that I do is to wait again. The principle principle principle principle is never going to change the outfits.  

[01:00:27] Ta-Myia: That's the why people should literally live by everyday. Like that needs to be like written on your mirror cars. 

[01:00:33] Gripp: Yeah, man. So, you know, if you want the world get out of the way of it, that's a million dollars worth of game right there. Yo, we got a new cash coming on now, man, we got, 

[01:00:44] Ta-Myia: what current projects are you working on or would you like anyone to check out state?  

[01:00:48] Gripp: I'll tell you what, right now I'm a current project that I'm working on is this book is putting this book you know, December the 15th for B 10 years in the film industry, [01:01:00] December the 15th, you know exactly to. 

30 7:00 PM. You know what I mean? And I'm, I'm, I'm working on this book and I'm just promoting and from now until then and up until this Olympics and in February, I leave in January and I'll be there up until February, and I'm looking to drop the book on that second quarter of the next year. So that's pretty much the main actually. 

I just, I just finished shooting in Somerville, South Carolina about three, about a month ago, I just finished shooting season three to this reality show on H G TV called a rock. The block. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. 

Yeah. So I just finished that, so that should be coming up soon and and a few other things. But other than that, that book and [01:02:00] let show there, man, those those are the, the main things right now. And but again, right now the Instagram you can go right now I am, my, my website is under construction. 

I would call it, I I'm, I'm, I'm working on a few things, but you can at least find my bio information there. And if you're looking to get some of that magical service done, Mary, you know you know what, I can't leave this one. I'll add this. I want to do, I would definitely need to let your audience know that, you know, when you get your program set internally, you, you will begin to set things up for yourself. 

Like right now, I'm the only. Hip hop gym out in the world. True hip hop up there, there are country bands there. There are hip, but like it's, they know about the hip hop the G about it's the only one. [01:03:00] And that's so 

that's it. Well, it's the joke, but that's actually, I had to bring that up because that's the name of my website. That's the name of my website. And I'm also I want to give me for this one, but I am training. I am training. I am putting together a currently putting together a course to where as I will be able to train whether you're inexperienced or whether you experienced into film. 

I will be training people and taking registrations for training coming up in February and 2020 22 to be, you know, for training. And that training will pretty much be life skills that you can take. You will have practical steps that you can be able to take and utilize, and literally change your life because I am only going to show you how to God weight, good [01:04:00] weight, simple. 

[01:04:03] Ta-Myia: Please explain all the services you offer because. You know, you do both music and the GIBS, or like what type of people are you looking to work with or attract to you?  

[01:04:15] Gripp: Okay, well, I'll tell you what, if you have an idea and you, and you're looking to display that to the world I am capable of helping you to bring that to life. 

So whether it's video, whether it's music whether it's high-end live concerts, streaming, things of that nature you know, I'm a production company, so that means I can produce whatever it is that's needed at high quality, because I understand clearly I don't do everything. I just do what I do. 

And that's pretty much that, you know what I mean? 

[01:04:54] Ta-Myia: We appreciate this episode. That's all I can say. Hey man,  

[01:04:58] DJ And ?: this is a great episode, man. I [01:05:00] appreciate you. Sticking out with us despite the technical difficulties this morning,  

[01:05:06] Gripp: I couldn't be in film business and have an issue with that because I just thought about  

[01:05:11] DJ And ?: that and I'll scratch myself.  

[01:05:12] Gripp: Yeah, of course you have to say, is this still happening? 


[01:05:15] DJ And ?: Like I said, he dropped a million dollars worth of game today for our audience. And I'm going to go back and listen to this one again, because I already got you already got me motivated. I already am some things I need to be looking at. And I'll tell you what, man this is the type of discussions we'd like to have for our audience, because we're all about, especially as young adults, trying to figure out how to do what we need to do better, be better people and adults and professionals and whatever. 

 Genre or, or feel the work that we're in. And so, man, I'm telling you, man, from the Hilltop glow, from all of the creatives and to the audience, man, we thank you today for being our our guests, Mr. Grip, tight. Me, Hey, I know a lot of our audience members are going to be happy to hear this cause they like, when stuff goes down the [01:06:00] rabbit hole, we probably could have went deeper, especially  

[01:06:03] Gripp: after show. 

Totally. I'm winded, man, with that, I tell you this though, guys I want to say this is my first, this is my first podcast podcast interviewing you have to understand is special to me because it's the purse. I didn't seek it. 

[01:06:21] Ta-Myia: I found, they found me the podcast. They found me, 

[01:06:25] Gripp: you know, you know, I was,  


[01:06:27] Gripp: was told this one, I'll drop this into, I was told that this man. What you seeking in life is seeking you, but that had to sink in to me, like, hold on, let me stop looking for some certain things. Cause I don't want that. I don't want this stuff that comes with it. So I stopped looking for it. 

You know what I mean? I had to, I had to put it in there and then I know there's another jeweler I probably should have dropped into this. This has something to do with that one person that want to make a transition [01:07:00] from, in their eating habits. Yeah. Okay. When that person wants to make a change in that from eating, it's like this, if you want to lose weight, I asked you these questions. 

When you, when it comes to your track. Do you lose your trash or do you get rid of it? Oh, well and it's a question to ask, like, cause I would say, well, I lose my trash. I mean, I get rid of my trash. So when it comes to weight, why do people lose weight when you lose something? This is psychology. This is, this is neural. 

Would you lose something? The program naturally runs to go look and find. So guess what you're going to do with that weight? You just lost. If you don't find it, you can find it right back on you. You're going to go and find it. You're going to find a guaranteed guarantee, lose that diamond ring. Okay. [01:08:00] So, so I say, if that's the case, get rid of the weight, get rid of the eating habits. 

If you get rid of the eat, because you don't get rid of your trash, you, you, you mean you, you get rid of your trash, you don't lose it. So if the dead weight is something that you want to really get rid of, then I need to hear people saying, read the weight instead of lose the weight because you can't find it again. 

See, these are programs. These are programs. People have to write. You have to write these programs. That's why I say you have to slow it down and store it in your memory. Cause that's when you written it to the drive. So once it's in the drive, the program runs, see, nobody did nothing on, in, on this planet that wasn't from the mental thing happening. 

Meaning you thought about it or it was put in that program. So if you, if you don't have the program running, bro, you again, like when we logged on and we had these little [01:09:00] issues, we do a new technical assist. All of that was simply because of the simple fact it's the program. The program was already running, right? 

The program was. 

So the program, meaning the data that's in there that's causing it to run, has to be written. Yo, 

so you have to, so you have to read, that's why they called it rewrite. It don't matter. Rewrite it, date, it just re so the program. So what I'm saying is, is think about it again. Sometimes some things have to be programmed, like, thought about you're not going to do it unless you, you know, think about it. So I don't think like when I'm out there operating in GM, I'm not thinking, 

I'm not thinking that's a problem that you got there. Thinking if you got to think at that point in time, I'm going to give you a prime example and leave it right there. When Kolbe, when Colby would bounce the ball back in, when he's dribbling the [01:10:00] ball down the court, you literally think he's thinking about dribbling that ball. 

Oh, Colby is, was, he was, he would be conscious with that player, meaning that the dribble is a program is a subconscious program that's running. So that program running is something he written and he put it into play and his plan. So it's constantly going out in driveline. What'd you say? The 10,000 hours or whatever it is, that's a program. 

See, I hit a massive, so, but I don't want to attach it to my brain. What I need to know is desk to programming. Yeah. See you again because he programmed it. Guess who's calling him a master. We are. So we see the thing called change. Colby didn't change. He still, that little, you knew who he talking about when you [01:11:00] wanted to Dilla for basketball, like you see what I'm saying and the same with anybody else. 

It's the same thing that goes on. So when you write the program, the program has no choice, but to run, but when you have an issue, you have to be able to troubleshoot. You have to have a tech support, meaning you got to take a moment, take a moment and breathe. That's your tech support. Take a moment and breathe. 

Yeah, because you gotta, you gotta report back. If not, you're gonna stay in your brain. You remember earlier, before we made a transition, we was stealing our brains and that program wouldn't read them, none of this stuff. Okay. She was stealing all brains. Nobody did. Nobody took a breather until we reset the program. 

All right. It took a breath inhale and then it exhale. All right, let's go. Y'all and that's what happens. So that's what people have to slow down at a point and get to that point, you know, get to that point a program. [01:12:00] Because you are the instrument. Remember the computer, you hear the instrument you, you are. 

So yeah, I definitely want to lead and it man, y'all, y'all got me worked up right now, here, man. 

[01:12:17] Ta-Myia: And this was going to happen. I said, you guys, this is going to happen. So we should do  

[01:12:24] DJ And ?: so that's we flipped it so he can have that extra  

[01:12:25] Gripp: time. Yeah, man, I really appreciate that though, but y'all got the exclusive. So the exclusive, this is the first answer view.  

[01:12:38] DJ And ?: Thank you. We appreciate you blessing us with his time, brother. 

[01:12:42] Gripp: Pleasure, man.  

[01:12:44] DJ And ?: Anything else you want to say to my  

[01:12:45] Ta-Myia: Nope. I just enjoyed the whole conversation, how it led down the rabbit hole and back. So  

[01:12:51] Gripp: thank you for that. Nope, no problem. Thank you guys. And I would say, keep doing your thing, you know what I mean? Y'all keep doing your thing. This is definitely [01:13:00] important. 

And Hey, one day you might have to come over here and I may need to interview you guys. You know what I mean? Definitely. Most definitely Kevin, but yeah, but yeah, man, let's get together. Kevin let's definitely talk or, you know, I'm offline at some point in time. Well on a few things, you know, all right.  

[01:13:19] DJ And ?: I think he has some there, but yeah, I'm going to close out for today. 

 This is a Hilltop glove. I want to thank of course, Mr. Grip for being with us today as our guests. I want to thank my co-hosts to my Kevin and Mike. And as always like to say, happy Saturday, man, much blessings, peace to everybody, be safe out there and we will see you on the next episode.