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Patrice Washington | Lord Give Me A Sign | Episode #36
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THG interviews guest Patrice Washington. Patrice is a Columbia-based pastor, gospel artist (emcee), author, actor, and mother. Her autobiography, “From The Pit To The Palace” documents her personal journey about exposing the devil to reveal the Glory of God. After being ordained in 2008 she established “According To Your Faith Ministries'' with her husband Deacon James Washington. She is also an active member of the United Kingdom Ministry Group, which is dedicated to serving the community, and making music that glorifies God.
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Patrice Washington | Episode #36
[00:00:00] Hey everyone. And welcome to another episode of the Hilltop love podcast. Today, we have the pleasure of interviewing Patrice Washington. Patrice is a Columbia, South Carolina based pastor author, gospel, artists, actor, and mother, her autobiography from the pit to the palace, talks about exposing the devil to reveal the glory of God.
And after being ordained in 2008, she established according to your faith ministries with her husband, deacon, James Washington, and she is also an active member of the United Kingdom ministry group, which is dedicated to serving the community and making music that glorifies God, Patrice, how are you today?
I'm doing wonderful. Thank y'all so much for having. Thank you for waking up this morning and definitely blessing us with your appearance. Thank you so much for your appreciate it. So tell us a little bit about yourself and your journey and how you became to with pastor Patrice. Well you [00:01:00] know, just like everybody else, I have a, a long journey of the journey didn't start off so wonderful.
You know, but that's my main goal now is to let people know that no matter where you start, that doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is where you finish. You know, there's nothing that we can't do that go before God and he won't forgive us. So for me, you know, I really started. In the church, but I had several things that happened to me in my life.
You know, one being domestic violence, a rape, and it kind of pushed me away from the church and in straight into the world, you know? And so from there it just got kind of wild, but then, you know, I realized this is not what I need to be doing. And then I just came back to God. That's amazing. So, you know, the word pastor is a common title for those who oversee a congregation and guide us spiritually.
And you also being a pastor, you're always on call and whenever you encounter [00:02:00] sickness, heartache or any crisis. So at what moment in your life did you decide to become a pastor and where you actually prepared for this? So I think the main thing is, is nowadays we have a lot of people that are sitting in titles that they may have not necessarily been called to.
And I'm one of the rare pastors that will speak out against things of that sort. Pastor was not something that I desired years ago, you know, God kept showing me a dream of me pastoring a church, and I ran from it, you know, so I eventually decided that, you know, I know God is calling me into some form of ministry, but I didn't see pastor in my future, even though I've seen these dreams.
So I just began to go to ministry school when I was trained. That was a two year process. It's not nothing that I just jumped into. From that I became an innocent. From an intercessor. I became an evangelist from an evangelist to an elder and then an elder [00:03:00] to a pastor. So it's not something that I just jumped into or that I stepped it lightly because I understand it's just not a title.
You know, this is a ministry, this is something that you actually have to live out. It's not about just getting a title when people just reverence in you, there is work with the title. So what kind of advice would you give someone? Kind of confused about the same thing. Like they one, they know they're supposed to be in the ministry and God, God is calling them to call him.
But yeah. So what, what, what mind frame, like, I don't understand. Can you guide them to what they should do are what you've done to actually, well, me personally with what I did in my ministry is, you know, of course we have a lot of training. Whether you feel as you've been called to be a pastor or anything, we train on each individual gift.
That's a part of the body of Christ. There's also. [00:04:00] Several like questionnaires that's available even online. And I've used it multiple times where you can answer certain questions and it can kind of show you which area that your gift will lead you into. And so, you know, far as that, that's one avenue for you to kind of figure out where you need to head.
Of course, as well as pray and ask God, he said, if you ask of him anything, he'll give you the answer. You just have to be open to receive them.
I know, I know, you know, a lot of people that listen to our podcasts and such a kind of entrepreneurs and such, and, and self-starting kind of people and starting anything from scratch is a ridiculously challenging. It takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of willpower. It takes a lot of faith, whether that's faith in your abilities or, you know, faith in your connection to God and divinity, and that there's going to be a bigger plan to work [00:05:00] out.
But you and your husband did take that leap. Once you you know, had, had studied and put in the work you decided to start your own ministry. And. You know, that's a, it's a big leap of faith. But what kind of, what kind of difficulties did you encounter along the way? And you know, what can you tell us about that journey and what you learned through it?
Well for me, one of the main difficulties that I dealt with was basically just being a female. Just being a female coming forward saying that I've been called by God. So of course that was in an era where women were not still recognized to be accepted as ministers pastors. Many churches today are still in that vein where they feel as though women should be silent, you know, but that comes back to not being able to study and rightly divide the word of God.
So that was my main difficulty, just being a female pastor. And then from us starting a ministry and being so small because we've [00:06:00] always been a small ministry in which that's something that I actually prayed about. And I asked God, I told God, I said, I don't want to be a large ministry. I want to be.
Like a filling station where when people are running low, that they can come to us, that we can feel them up and they are sent back out. So I had to let the people that were connected to me know in it, dance that this is not that type of ministry where we're just trying to grow world world war road and have this big, old, huge church with a whole bunch of people that's powered up in a building.
We are the type of ministry that we are. Causing people to be disciples to where they're able to go out and fulfill the, the gifts and dreams that God has given them. And because of that, us being a small ministry, many people were trying to figure out how these doors kept opening up for me because like my first year of ministry, My ministry was covered in a magazine on two separate occasions.
And it wasn't [00:07:00] because we have this large ministry. It was because we had the power of God present in the ministry and people were coming and being healed and delivered and being set free of all manners of things. And so people were trying to figure out how are they doing this? And it's only a handful of them because it's not about us.
It's always been about guns. Yeah, it sounds to me like that's like, like a very different model than a lot of places is, is what I'm getting. And, and, you know, like, I guess the, the model that we see traditionally in, in churches and congregations and mega churches is that if you have more people who are.
Every single time you have a service and every single time you pass the plate, then you can get more money. And part of that is just like that, you know, your rent is 24 7 365. And if you're only using the space one day a [00:08:00] week with a few people, like, you know, like, like just economically, it becomes like.
Just a tendency to roll towards that mega church. When I've always had the feeling that you know, the true purpose of having congregations and coming together. Is so that people can know each other one-on-one so that the elders in the congregation can, can interact with people one-on-one and when somebody is going through something or having a problem that somebody notices, and I don't, I don't know that you get that in the larger environments, you know, you might get a little bit of an energetic charge up with that, that, that direct one-to-one connections is less.
If I could just piggyback on what you're saying. I'll say this. I actually came up in Bible way church on Atlas road up under pastor Daryl Jackson and lady Jackson. And so I was there 11 years. And a lot of people think that because you're in a mega church that you don't have that same camaraderie, but you do.
It's only if you're involved in a. [00:09:00] That you won't understand how that church operates. For example, they have what they call care groups. So they have pastors that are in the church that are over a certain amount of the members. So everybody has the accessibility to a pastor, even though it may not be the senior pastor.
So they, yeah, they have a structure that takes. Absolutely. And with those care leaders, they call you, they check on you, they visit you in the hospital. If there's a need they're there. So, you know, I'm not the type of person that not many other ministries. You understand what I'm saying? But I know for me, I had to understand what I was called to, and I know what I was called to was a smaller group.
One of the things that I say in my church is, is. He don't count numbers, he make numbers count. So in other words, even though we had smaller numbers, we were knocking on [00:10:00] neighborhoods going in apartments, asking people if they needed things, because God gave me a gift to be a couponer years ago. And so I would stock up to the point where it's my house, but like a store, but I didn't, I gave these things out to the people that needed.
So I have a interesting question. So as a pastor no people say they hear God speaking to them. How would you identify that and help somebody, you know, to hear his voice or the voice inside of them? So that's kind of a deep question and I'll explain the reason why I say that because one of my giftings is they call me profits is Washington.
Before I was known as a pastor, I was known in Columbia Georgia and surrounding areas as profits as Washington, because that I hear God. And a lot of times when people say they hear [00:11:00] God, sometimes it's not always audible. It's impression or implantation in the mind, or either a dream or vision.
You understand what I'm saying? When they say God? So God has used me on multiple occasions to speak into people lives things. You know, otherwise I wouldn't have know, but it was God. And so when it comes to that type of situation, just like with any other gift, that's something that you have to stay in the face of God about.
Because that's another thing that I was a strong advocate on speaking of on people that are claiming to be profits, but not having the proper training, because you can be a prophet and God can give you a word. Well, he can give you a word and. Knowledge, I'll say knowledge about an individual, but it may not be for you to tell that individual, but it's for you to intercede.
But if you go and tell that individual, when that wasn't God intent, you can cause more harm than good. Yes. [00:12:00] The wisdom about knowing when and what to do. And that's a very difficult.
So, no matter what gifting you have in the body of Christ, the main thing is you have to stay connected to the source.
What, what, what do you what do you do to stay connected to the source?
A lot of prayer, there has been times and I'm gonna, I'm gonna just be real because that's the type of person I am. There has been times where I literally have been in restaurants and God will begin to speak to me about the waitress. My husband's sitting here, he's a witness and I would just begin to prophesize to the waitress and I would tell her everything about.
What's going on in her life from living situations to dealing with her child, to dealing with all different kinds of issues in her life. And [00:13:00] we, he seen it time and time again, where they will break down crying right there in the middle of the restaurant. You understand what I'm saying, but it's because I stayed connected to the source, but here's what I'm trying to say is sometimes I don't want to do it.
Sometimes. I just be like, God, can you turn this gift off for a minute?
I'm just trying to eat what dinner, you know? But when you say yes to God, you're saying yes to him, for whatever he wants to do in your life, it's not, when you do.
Yeah, this is some good stuff. You know, I think that's one of the things that I've always You know, sometimes we do get impressions about people, but I think that the cultural, the culture that we're in kind of teaches us to stay in your lane. Don't talk to people, stay away. Don't, you know, don't, don't share that you're a weirdo, [00:14:00] you know, but, but since, you know, you've had, you've had this this calling and this training and, and you've kind of made this your work.
So you actually. You know, can do that in a manner that it does, does affect people and improve their lives. And that's just, that's, that's a wonderful idea. I have to think about this too. And I'm gonna just share this because I'm not going to go too deep, but the word of God lets us know also that there was a time when the man of God.
He was amongst profits, but he was not called a prophet, but simply because he was in the company of the prophets, he began to prophesize. Sometimes you will be amongst people that are very spiritual and have all, some anointings and gifts, and God will use you in that manner simply because you are in that environment.
And simply because God will use anyone who has a willingness. So for anyone to say, well, I know that's not what I'm called to do, but what if God tells you to give somebody just [00:15:00] a simple encouragement word that can save their life? Because I've had it happen before. I've literally been walking in Finley park and Colombia, and God told me to stop and speak to this young lady.
And I stopped and spoke to her, come to find out she was going to commit suicide. You understand what I'm saying? But because I stopped in. I gave her a little bit of my time. She decided not to kill herself. Not only did she not decide to kill herself, but she began to come to my ministry and she came to my ministry for about six months until she was able to get strong and get on her feet.
She was going through a divorce. She was able to rebuild. She was able to get a job. She was able to get a place for her and her kids to stay because they didn't have a place to stay. They were able to get back on their feet and then they moved on. And that's what, like I said, that's what I know that God called me to do.
Yeah. You, you've made a, a Haven that people can pop in when they need it. But without you know, being, being, [00:16:00] I guess you're free to, to, to come and go as you please. That's very, it's very fun. That's very interesting. I like that a lot. It, it reminds me of some of, kind of like you know, In ancient India, they had, they had these Ostrom's, which are just like, like little forest monasteries.
And it, you know, it wasn't like people went there all the time, but when you were going through some things and you needed to get, get your life, right, you could just like pick up and go and hang out for a couple of weeks and get your, get your yourself back together. And, and then you could go back to your family and your community and, and you know, continue your own spiritual work.
But I like what you're doing. I like what you're doing a lot. This is, this is great. And so like, even like right now with my church, you know, I don't have regular services right now. I'm strictly outreach right now. And so I have multiple people that come to me and they be like, Hey, are you having services?
Hey, I'm looking for a church. Hey, I need to go to this service because I'm so connected. I'm able to connect them [00:17:00] with other leaders that I know that will be beneficial to their life. You understand what I'm saying? The Bible says he needs us pastors after his own heart. So God also uses me to do is connect people with the correct pastors, right?
Because the church isn't a building is the community.
That's actually a really cool it's. Yeah. And you can connect people with the environment they need to be in. That's great. One of the other things that we learned about you doing all of this is that you, you have some, some, some gospel roots and you do some gospel recording. Did you grow up listening to gospel music?
I assume that's how, how you came to this Early memories of gospel and how it affected you growing up. Absolutely. So of course originally we're from Chicago. My mom moved down here when I was younger. And so when we moved down here, we moved into this little town called great falls, South Carolina.
And so while we were staying in [00:18:00] great falls my mom was an active member. Choir. So I was always at choir practices with them and being in the country, they had this thing that they called the camp ground. So every year, during a specific time, all of us would go to this camp, ground setting, where there were all these little houses and everybody would stay there for about a week.
And during camp ground, the older people, they will March from the church at the top of the hill, all the way to the back of the campground, which had disliked, it's kind of like a, an outside cover. It wasn't like the inside and there were pews outside and we will all be out there, but the whole time they were singing and marching and they have different churches acquires coming together.
So I've always been involved, you know, with music, even myself coming up through elementary school, middle school and high school. I was always in choir, [00:19:00] but. I never really thought that I would be involved with music. In 2018, God really put something on my heart and I just, you know, I listened to music, all music, not just gospel music.
I want to make that plain. I listened to all music because I have children. I have a 15 year old. I have. 25 year old. Cause my kids just had birthdays a couple of days ago. Yeah. My other daughter, she turned 25 and then I have another daughter that just turned 28 years old. Okay. So God told me that this generation was a lost and partly because of a lot of the music that's been released, a lot of this music is not edifying.
A lot of his music is telling you to be a part of gangs. This music's telling you sell drugs that make money. Strip to make money sweet with him to get money. You understand what I'm saying? And so [00:20:00] God told me, I want you to start doing music to reach this generation. And so, you know, I prayed about this thing and I was like, God, I don't understand what am I supposed to do?
Because I don't seem like that anymore. You understand what I'm saying? And it was like weeks later, God told me, he said rap. And I was like, dude,
I'm well into my forties. So I was like, God, dude, he was like rap. And so I told my husband and he was like, oh, okay. You know, my husband's always been the type of person, you know, he don't be like, you can't do that. Whatever. I decide that I'm going to do, he supported me when I said that, God told me to write the book.
He was like, okay, whatever you need, just let me know. And so I began to reach out. Two different people that I know now, mind you, let me put a pin there and tell you this. Before I became a pastor before I became an evangelist, all of that, I used to host services [00:21:00] and I was one of the first people in South Carolina and anybody that's in the music industry here in South Carolina will tell you this, that allowed people to come in and rep in the church.
I was a pastor. Now, mind you, my pastoring has been 11 years now. So way before I was pastoring, I started having events to bring in rappers, poets, people that were mine and people that was praise, dance. And when a lot of the churches was saying praise, dance and what, no, God, you understand what I'm saying?
So I've been, I've been doing this stuff for a long time. So when God told me I won't to. To now wrap. I just began to reach out to a lot of the people that I opened up doors for. And I was like, how do I do this? How do I start this process? And they jumped right in and began to help me and show me. And so like now, and I can honestly say last year I released my [00:22:00] first project and last year was the first time that I began to write.
So I write my. You know, so for me to go from not doing any of this, to now being able to know how to record and know how to write and even know how to go ahead and get everything copywritten and all of this, it wasn't because of me. It's because I made connections with people along the way. That's why I tell people don't burn bridges, because you never know when you're going to have to re cross that bridge again.
Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. I listened to your song, a walk. I love it. Thank you. We did not have known that you just started this, like your flow. You sound good. Thank you so much. This is very interesting too. You know, we're all, we're all kind of music nerds on the, on the podcast here. And I'm just thinking back in, in music history and you know, the, [00:23:00] the era when you had.
You know, kind of your, your, your tent revival, gospel, like you were talking about earlier, and then you started to see your RMB and blues kind of pick up that same cadence and that same kind of vibe, but it was talking about secular stuff and you saw a real hard split and divide when people started saying no, that's of the devil and that's a corruption of the traditional gospel music.
And, and then, you know, I, I feel like we kind of. For better or worse as culture does, we start to kind of we find, we see the value in it. You know, like there is value in the other aspects of life. There is value in singing about love and such, but, but it does seem that our commercial industry has kind of fixated on promoting stuff that is talking about the negative aspects of life.
And, and I'm not saying that I. Like a pop, just talking about some real, but. [00:24:00] There is also things that we need to realize about what we are taking into ourselves intellectually and energetically. And if we want to put ourselves in a better, happy, more peaceful state, maybe that's not the vibe. We need to be feeding ourselves all the time.
Correct. And I feel like you are giving a venue for, for that. If, if, you know, if you like this kind of rhythm and connection, now you've done it. You know, R and B turned into hip hop and now you've taken it back to.
Yeah, absolutely. It's good stuff. I say. Think about it like this. When you, when you think about music in a sense, I can go even farther back. If you know anything about BB and CC wine, and they used to sing this song called addictive love. A lot of people wasn't feeling that because they felt like it wasn't gospel enough.
But it was beautiful [00:25:00] and it was about love and they were talking about God, but it could go for anything. You understand what I'm saying? But it was beautiful and it wasn't perverted. Right. Do you have any like misconceptions being a female pastor and gospel artists, like. Judged you, or just the better word I'm talking about.
I've been attacked. I've done multiple podcasts in like live interviews and stuff like that. I've heard things from stuff like she's just trying to be relevant. I've heard things like that's somebody's grandma, actually. I am somebody's grandma. I'm focusing on. Okay, well, people, grandma. You know, I've heard it all, you know I've heard things like, you know, people that get into gospel rap, they couldn't make it in the regular industry.
So they're going to gospel to see if they can make it. No, [00:26:00] honey, this is not something that I desire. This is something that God told me to do. And just in the process of me obeying God, I fell in love. This music. It actually saved my life in a period of time in my life. Like I can go back just three, four years ago when me as a pastor wanting to commit suicide because I lost a loved one.
Like last year we lost over 20 something. People, you understand what I'm saying? So. Depression and stuff. It does something to you, but people don't understand music. It helps you, it can help you. If you're listening to the right type of music. Even when I was going to counseling, there was a thing that they had called music theory.
You understand what I'm saying? So music is therapy, but it's all about the type of music that you're listening to. Yes. Mute music is very powerful, spiritual tool. I mean, that is, that is why you have, you know, some [00:27:00] religious sex that, that did ban certain types of music entirely. Because it, one of the things that we talk about sometimes as art is prayer and that, you know, a lot of times, whatever our art that we're making is, is kind of like.
Us crying out to God, the universe, whatever we believe in about this experience that we're having in, and either joyful or badness, but we're, we're just kind of, you know, just throwing it out there, like crabs on the shore, waving their arms, just, you know, we exist here we are, you know and, and I, I think it can't be underestimated the, the, the power of, of using it in that, in that manner.
So. That's great. Think about it like this. Think about who Satan was. He was over music because he tried to pervert his position. He got kicked out of heaven. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the [00:28:00] day, music was created by God. It was created for a good purpose, but just like any in almost everything, it can be perverted.
So in the Bible, the story of Joseph being pulled from the bottomless pit and sold into slavery in Egypt only to become a high ranking official and adviser to the Pharaoh, which brings me to your book from the pit to the palace. Can you tell us a little bit more about your testimony and all the struggles you had to come through?
So just so people can kind of understand what to expect from the book and definitely support. Thank you. Yeah, my book from the pit to the palace, it was birthed out of pain. Again, this was a situation. One night I was asleep. God woke me up and told me to write the book. And I was like, What am I writing a book about?
You know what I'm saying? He was just like, gosh. And he said, write the book. And so probably about a week or two, [00:29:00] I've continued to pray and just ask about what I was supposed to be writing a book on. And he told me to tell my story. And so, you know, the first thing that I did, the church that we were at at that time I told the pastor about it and she was like, oh, okay, awesome.
Awesome. You know, and I remember one time I was, I was sharing my testimony at a program. It was a women's program and after the service, she came up to me and she was like, don't you ever. Till that testimony again, right? She said, don't you ever tell that testimony again, people don't need to know all of your business.
Now watch this. There was a pastor at the time. Her name is Bishop Debra belt, and she's here in Columbia, South Carolina. She came up to me and she said, Woman of God. She said your testimony was awesome. She said, God is going to use you to write a book and you're going to help many women make it through a rough time.
The mind [00:30:00] you.
Yep. And so now God is telling me to write this book and I was like, wow. So yeah, so basically my book, I started at the beginning and I just took people on a ride all the way to the end, you know, so with me, I'll make kind of started at a young age. I talk about, you know Like even dealing with anxiety.
I talked about abuse, but the abuse wasn't from my parents, the abuse was because I thought I was grown and I decided to get into relationships at an early age. And so every relationship that I got in was an abusive relationship. So I talked a lot about that abuse. I talked about getting pregnant at a young age.
I talked about being raped. I talked about you know, eventually getting sick. I had multiple health issues that was taking place in my body, and I literally thought that something [00:31:00] mentally was wrong with me, that I was going crazy. And so I literally went and checked myself into a mental hospital, dealing with depression and anxiety and stuff like that.
And one thing that I didn't know is that when you check yourself into a mental hospital, they do a full workup on you. And so what they found out was is that I had a thyroid condition that was contributing to a lot of the depression and anxiety and the weight loss that I was having, because I thought I had cancer or something because I was losing weight extremely bad.
I couldn't keep nothing down. I constantly felt like I was having heart attacks come to find out. I had hyperope hyper. Thyroidism the hyperthyroidism had went so long undetected that it caused me to have also graves' disease. Aside from me also having graves' diseases, it caused me to have a heart issue.
So I had multiple health issues that was taking place. Had I not checked myself [00:32:00] into a mental health facility? I would have never known. That I had physical issues that was going on in my body. And so that's just one of the other things that I talk about in the book. I talk about me working at my children's school.
And during that time I got fired when I got placed in the hospital because of these things. When I got fired and I got out, I ended up start stripping because I was walking my kids home from school one day and I was like, This is the only thing that I'm going to be able to do. You know, I was young at the time.
I didn't see another way out. And so I walked in that strip club one day and I began to see. I sold my body, you know, I've done multiple things to try to provide for my girls. Then I talk about coming out of all of that and giving my life back over to Christ where I stopped drinking. I stopped smoking, I stopped partying and then I met my husband and we were married.
And then, you know, I just go from there and just tell you the story of how. The mirror's life when, because it wasn't always good. My kids, you know, they were PK kids at that time, they [00:33:00] begin to act a donkey. You know, I had one of my children, she sold my car, she stole my car and she ended up totally my car, a brand new car that I had just gotten, not even.
And she told her it wrapped it around a power pole that could have lost her life. And I talk about that situation. And so there are many things that I talk about in this book that I know that many people can relate to on different levels. And I believe that's one of the reason why a lot of people, they contact me through social media, people that are not even in South Carolina, because.
I'm relatable. I'm the pastor that came out and said that I've done these things. I've been there. I've done it. I smoked more weed than a little bit. I used to drink gin out the bottle. You know, I, I was honest and I told them all these things, but I also showed them that you can overcome all of these things.
Right. So that's basically what the book is. Just showing people that you can definitely come from the pit and God can take you to a palace. [00:34:00] What's your seeing. Exposing the devil. I can't remember. But go ahead and say, I can't remember. Well, basically it's basically, I wanted to expose the devil so that God can be glorified.
Here's my thing. People cannot expose you. If you expose yourself, if you expose yourself, the devil don't have anything to hold over your head. So therefore there can't be any self-condemnation. A lot of depression and anxiety and suicidal thoughts come from self-condemnation and people don't understand that, or they just can't wrap their head around that.
It's the, it's a, it's a tough spot. Absolutely. So between family music and your ministry, you're, I'm pretty sure you're always on the go. How do you maintain a healthy work-life balance and [00:35:00] time manage? In the beginning, I did not know. Didn't have no idea that I wasn't doing that. I was a brand new wife and then I was thrown into ministry, you know, so I did not keep a good balance.
I went to a church and something during, I had the pleasure of meeting Bishop listing page junior, and he spoke to me, you know, after that service, they invited. Stay for dinner. And I was able to sit down at the table and talk to him. And one of the things that he told me was is your family is your ministry.
Now this came out the blue, we wasn't talking about any of this, but he gave me balance. He said, your family is your first ministry. He said, everything else is assignments. He said, never put anything other than God before your family. And at that point I began to create. Good balance in my life when it comes to ministry and my family.
Now far as [00:36:00] my music, my family's included, like I said, my husband's our DJ. My husband literally bought every piece of equipment that you can think of to build a studio. For me, he built, he got equipment to be able to make beats. So everything that I need to do, he made it possible that I can do it in the house.
So we have a whole studio in that. So in DNA and my group, we have our own producers and stuff like that. My daughter she's our dancer. So it's a family affair. It's kind of your family and your daughter. I recently saw that she was in the car accident. How are you doing with that? Yeah, that is my 20 house.
She did. She just turned 25 years old on the 23rd. So It's been extremely difficult. I have rough date. This is probably the first time that I've said this out loud to anybody other than her. I have rough [00:37:00] days. I believe that I cry more than she. And she's the one who had the accident. My daughter, she was coming back from Sumpter and her car ran out of gas right in front of bore, Richland high school.
So she was right there at the gas station. She went to get gas and on her way back to her vehicle, she was physically struck by a car. It wasn't a car accident. She was physically struck by a car. The person that hit my daughter total. Totaled his vehicle headed my baby's body. I'm talking about when I say he totaled his vehicle.
So you can kind of only imagine the type of trauma that her body endured. So like every bone in her neck was broken. Her sternum was broken, her ribs was broken, her liver and her spleen was last. [00:38:00] She lost her left leg. They had been amputated her right leg, all the ligaments and tendons and stuff in that right leg are torn and damaged, torn ACL.
They've told her she needs to have surgery on that. You know, and, and she had so much road rash to, whereas the skin was pulled off different spots of her body, her leg, her back, her shoulder, you know, so just dealing with the healing of. Stan has grown back, but she has a lot of pain in those areas. So it's been a very horrific accident.
And after she was in the hospital, she had two strokes. So it's 25 years old. And my daughter has three children. Her children are five, four and three years old and her children was in the car. So one of the, my grandkids actually said that he. Saw his mommy get hit by a car. You understand what I'm saying?
So it's been extremely hard. It's been extremely difficult. It's just a [00:39:00] lot with it. And for me as a mother, a lot of my depression behind this accident and me having days where I just I'll look at her, her tick tops or I'll look at her lives. And I begin to cry is because I'm like, I hate to see my baby have to go through this.
I hate to see my baby, have to learn how to get a prosthetic and walk with a prosthetic leg. And. It is frustrating as a mom. But the thing that I, I bless God for is that like the Bible says, train up a child in the way that they should go and they should not depart from it. For me, that scripture means it doesn't mean that your children won't make mistakes.
What it means is, is they know how to come back to what they were taught. Safe is on a whole nother level. That's it remarkable? She she's encouraging people that should be encouraging her. She don't complain. She blessed God [00:40:00] daily for giving her her life back. My daughter, she started multiple businesses and even in her condition, she'll go to the flea market and sell her drinks and stuff like that.
She refuses to give. So her determination gives me determination. So between my daughter, having her accident and up until now, I'm almost finished with a whole album. You understand what I'm saying? Because it shows you why do we have excuses? When we have people that have serious things going on in their, in their lives and they don't make excuses, they still find a way they still find a way.
And that's one of the things that I used to always tell my church it's time out for excuses. I don't know if y'all are, I'm going to say this. I don't know if y'all are familiar with the, it's a passage, a passage of scripture in the Bible, and it talks about the man at the pool of [00:41:00] Bethesda. And it said that he was there all those years.
And when. I asked him, did he want to be healed? He told you this. He said, I don't have anyone to put me in the water when the angles trouble, the water. And my thing was in study him saying, yes, I want to be healed. He gave Jesus in excuse, it's time out for excuses because he's given us everything that we need.
He said, and you can receive. But we, a lot of times make excuses about why we can't do what he's already given us the ability to do.
Yeah. That's it. That's kind of what faith empowers us to do if. You know, if you feel like there is a goal that God is supporting you in, you can, that, that faith allows you the strength to take each of those steps as you go. It's not like things just magically [00:42:00] happen. It's just, you have the power to do the things that you need to do to get there.
Absolutely. So if people are inspired by your story you know, they want to pick up your book or be involved in your ministries or see what kind of stuff that you have going on. What, how do we how do we buy your things? How do we follow you? How do we keep in touch? Well I'll start with my book, my book from the pit to the palace.
It is available through Amazon Barnes and noble walmart.com. You can get it on Kindle, you know, if you want to download it, or like I said, if you want to get a hard copy, you can get it through Barnes and noble or either Amazon. My music. I have two projects that I released last year all within the same week.
So the first project that I released is called dope and don't stands for divinely opening people, eyes track that is on this EAP is actually named after a drug. [00:43:00] Why not make me a third drug? Well, once again, God gave me, God gave me a dream and I was actually doing an interview and I was telling them about the tracks that was on the EAP.
And I kept naming all of these drugs. And I was like, God, what is this? He said, that's the name of your songs? So we have of course it opens up with dope intro and then the next song is called dope. The next one is called Molly being heroin. Cocaine and the single off that EAP is called marijuana. So that's dope.
EAP, dope EAP is available. You can stream it on any streaming platform. It's on my YouTube channel. The next project that I released is called reborn and because it's a mixed tape it's only available on my YouTube channel and I also uploaded it on spin. And my SoundCloud. So on that reborn basically I have a song on there that is called reborn and that's actually a remix that [00:44:00] I did have.
Nicki Minaj is Chung li I did a song called he's my rock, which is a remix applause rock. I did a song called shake him off. Which is a remix, a DJ Cali's top off my Mayback. I got a song called where the love goal, which is the remit of little wanes uproar. And the last song is called God's beat, which is a remix of spot them DATEMS bebop.
So like I said, reborn is available, you know, you can go on my. YouTube channel or either my SoundCloud and listen to that. God told me to do that mix tape and the mix tape was actually the first project that I worked on because I wanted to show people like, even though you have these secular songs that everything starts with God, and I just wanted to make the phones be reborn.
And I turned them back into the hospital. Is this a creative talent that you have? Like, I love. Thank you. And so I'm actually working on an [00:45:00] EAP. Now I'm going to say this it's called trap. God has always used me with acronyms. And so it's called trap and it stands for a turnip and raise the praise. So on this EAP, there's different genres of music.
I have an African B, I have a Caribbean B you know, we have some trap beats on there, you know, I'm, I'm the type of girl. I like a hard 8 0 8. So I'm really excited about this project that I'm working on now. Do you feature anybody on your, your music or is it absolutely. I have a lot of features on my iPad.
A lot of them are local artists on the new album that I have coming out. There are also local artists. One of the artists he's actually in Myrtle beach. He's an awesome man of God. So yeah, I have a lot, I have a good bit of features on my. And I definitely would like to support, you know, your husband and your daughter, their business.
So do you know their [00:46:00] information the name or where can we find them on social media as well as you? So now her husband he is a DJ, you know, we don't just say he's a Christian and he's a DJ. So he does a lot of Christian events, but my husband also does regular parties. He does, you know, weddings, you know, and other.
You can find him on social media as James Washington. He has not officially set up his DJ page yet, but we will be getting that done. My daughter who had the accident, her name is Patricia bale, but on Facebook and Instagram, you can find her as Patricia Davis. She has She does drink. She does alcoholic beverages.
She does alcohol infused desserts. It's called BAMS and toxicants. And so, like I said, sometimes she goes to Facebook and she does a lot of major events. A lot of people love her drinks in her her, you know, her [00:47:00] desserts that she do. And like I said, it's just a blessing. She refused to just lay down.
She's still trying to support her family, even in her condition. She has also been doing piercings for over the last five years. So that's just another thing that she does. And she also just started doing tattoos about a year and a half ago. So my daughter she's always had our hands on a lot of things.
She do hair, she can do ways friends, she can do braids, you know? So like I said, she refused to lay down. She's going to do whatever she can to, you know, Take care of her family. For those that are on Facebook, you know, we do have a Facebook fundraiser that was set up for her. It ends on the 31st, but you know, if anybody wants to sow any seeds, they help her, you can do it either through me at pastor the Patrice Washington, or either go directly to her page was, is Patricia Day.
Also far as my group United Kingdom, because I'm a part of a group that is called United Kingdom [00:48:00] ministry group. It's myself. We have MDB the fishermen brother, Alonzo. AAO poetic. My husband, DJ James, and my daughter praise. We're all a part of this group and we have a website is that UK, M g.org.
And so we do all types of events. We've actually been in club. And then club events. One of the members of our group, brother, Alonzo, who he was actually able to open up when fable and young jock came down. So we were able to get on a stage with him and open up for, you know, major artists. So, you know, we just don't do Christian Christian events.
We're constantly, you know, in the community, we do free concerts. We do feedings once a month, you know, so we're, we're definitely in a community. Definitely submit your music so we can put it on our playlist.
So Mike, do you have any other questions? Ah, no. Thank you for [00:49:00] coming on. The show is you know, we appreciate the work you're doing in the community. You know, especially in this time that we're in and round, what is, is round four of COVID. Absolutely. I'm actually just getting over a COVID for the second time.
I got tested positive a little over what 13, 14 days ago. And so I just tested negative yesterday. So I bless God that this round wasn't as bad as the last round. Cause last year I almost lost my life. I couldn't breathe. Had to go to the hospital. It was pretty bad, you know, because I have a preexisting heart condition.
It kind of. Hard on me, but I guess because of this new strand of COVID this time, it mainly just presented itself like a sinus infection. Yeah. I'm actually on day two of COVID. And I've been vaccinated, but yesterday I felt like absolute death today. I am. Probably 75%, but I cannot imagine feeling like that for the full seven to 10 days that some people did or some of these long haul cases people have had.[00:50:00]
I definitely be keeping you in my prayers on for speedier arm recovering, because like I said, last year I was sick all of about 46 days before I get any kind of. I couldn't breathe. My mom, my husband, they had to kind of help me around. I had to see a lung specialist for me to even get some of my my breathing control bag, you know, so it took a while before I was really able to get back to doing music because I couldn't keep my breath.
Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you're here with us today in full body and. I mean, I know it's not common, but would you mind saying the closing us on prayer? Absolutely. No problem. Yeah, my father, Lord God, we thank you this day, Lord God, we thank you, Lord God for this podcast, Lord God. We ask everyone.
Attached is PI class that you will touch the more God in every area of their [00:51:00] life. Lord God, we declare and decree healing over everyone that needs healing over their body. Those that need financial increase, we declared the decree, financial increase. God, we pray right now in the name of Jesus, that something that was said on today, Lord God that we'll be uplifting and benefits.
Someone that we have hear the Lord got the podcast that I think you right now in the name of Jesus for covering all of our families, protecting us all. God, God, I pray right now that you will continue to give them increase. So God that you will continue to send the right people to them, Lord God for their interviews.
And God, we just want to give you all the glory honor and praise God before we close. Career. We want to bind every spirit of depression. Every suicidal thought, every spirit of old pression, old God in the name of Jesus, we give you all the glory all the honor and all the praise it is in Jesus name. We pray amen.
As you just move me throughout the whole podcast. I was like, I have to ask her [00:52:00] to just pray. Cause I just feel your energy. Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys having. No problem. Mike, you want to close this out? Yeah. This is the Hilltop glove podcast. Closing out with our guests, pastor Patrice, Washington from United Kingdom ministries.
And I'm sorry. That is, that is your ministry, right? You know, I came to ministry group. Yeah. It's not my ministry, but it is our music group, but we decided not to say music is a ministry ministry.
Well, thank you for coming. I'm sorry. My actual church's called according to your faith ministries, according to your faith. No, it's actually, my church is located off of broad river road. Okay. All right. Okay. Perfect. Well, everybody. Thanks for tuning in to the Hilltop glove podcast. I'm Mike with my cohost to Maya and our guest today.
Patricia [00:53:00] Washington. Thanks for doing.
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