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[00:00:00] Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Hilltop Glove Podcast. Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Vaughn Postma, born in Colleen, Texas, but now living in Charleston, South Carolina. Vaughn is a wife, business owner and video editor. She attended the College of Charleston between 2010 and 2014, where she studied communications and psychology.

Vaughn has worked in the entertainment, marketing and hospitality industries as a secretary at SC Normal, she strives on educating the community on all things cannabis. She is the co-owner of Mr. B C B D located at 1072 or 10 72 King Street in Charleston, South Carolina, providing quality C B D and hemp products to the community, as well as the senior partnership manager at CO at Charleston Wine and Food.

She specializes in audio production editing. Thank you for joining us, Daveon. How are you? I'm feeling great after that intro. She liked my little bio. I wrote up about her . I [00:01:00] kinda enjoyed it. I was like, Ooh, it sounds good. I'll be like repeating it and I'm like, She sound legit. no's. Very legit. Y'all. And I'll go ahead and I always do my little I guess I have to say this, it's not as if I don't know Vaughn.

I did actually go to the College of Charleston with Vaughn. And we worked on some things in the past. We actually have a, a old relationship, as they would say, of working together and being, we, she actually did my brother Rashid. Her husband actually did his first interview that he's ever, that that Rashid ever did was done with them.

I, yeah. Girls say I remember them days, man, up there on, on Upper King Street and of course Kevin was there with us at the college. Charleston. Yeah. And he knows Vaughn as well. So this is gonna be a really good conversation today, just catching up and seeing what you have going on now. Cause I know things are moving.

Yeah, girl, you are a busy lady all the time. Every day. I don't even follow many people on social media, as you know. I'm horrible with social media, but . But I do follow you and try to make sure I keep up with what you're doing because you always took me as a person who [00:02:00] knew what you wanted to do and knew how to get it done.

And just watching somebody do that, especially from an early age and like, yo, look at that stride and look how much energy she puts into doing things, it's shit's extremely positive. So to have you on this podcast, Especially when we're talking about adulting, learning how to do things well, how to run your business, how to run your life and just being a, a positive, a successful adult in this day and age, especially as a millennial, it's gonna be really good for our audience to hear some of the things that you have to say.

But first things first, as you always have to start, I must ask, man, as a creative, you have your, someone that has the ability to invent and develop original ideas, especially in the. And I know Tamara, when she was putting these questions together, she could definitely tell that you are a creative. Could you tell the audience a little bit,

Exactly, exactly. Could you tell the audience a little bit more about yourself, your upbringing and what your life was like growing up? Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, first and foremost, I have to [00:03:00] really give a big, big ups to my parents. they were, and have always been extremely supportive of, you know, I have always been creative, I've always been interested in seeing what is not there.

Mm-hmm. , I've always had vision. I've always had curiosity, which is the crux of my success always is that I'm curious and I. Research and look for what I need to fulfill that curiosity. So growing up, that was pretty much a little bit of what it was. I, I read at a early age, I was a big problem solver.

I started businesses at a early age. Yeah. You know, it was my mom was the one who really helped nurture that entrepreneurial I guess you could. Craving that I had. Yeah. Mindset. And they weren't entrepreneurs. Like my, my parents weren't entrepreneurs, like my family all went to the military.

Like that's, [00:04:00] that's what they did. And, and I was like, I don't really wanna do that. And so that's what my upbringing was. My upbringing was, you know Vaughn, you can do it. And it's actually funny because then when you graduate from college, you know, I felt like my dad got a little you know, Your parents go back into like, you know, what they know works for them, Like what, six year?

They're like, Oh, that you've got this great job. And I'm like, Yeah, I'm about to quit that . You know, I'm about to quit that. But, but you know, I, I mentioned that because in my upbringing, like you just can't tell a kid all their life, do what you want. You can do what you want, do what you want, like reach for the stars and.

Tell them not to reach for the stars. Yeah, sure. I've been in, I've been in the dojo for years, reaching for the stars, like now, now that's what I've continued do in my adulthood. So that's, that's, I, I love my upbringing. Like I love my family. My family has always been near and dear to my heart, [00:05:00] and they have always been supportive of even in.

where like I was failing forward or times where I was like, I wanna do this really bad. And my mom was like, Oh my God, that's not gonna go well. And it didn't go well, , but it was, it was nice to have that security Yeah. Of like of their, of their support. Yeah. So that I could bounce back when I needed.

Good point. Now, are you a only sibling? No, I'm the youngest actually. That's crazy. So yeah, I'm the youngest. But my siblings are, you know, my, my sister with whom I grew up with, I have a few different siblings. Right. And, and and adulthood has really helped me forge. Better relationships with siblings that I may not have lived with.

Yeah. But growing up I was with, Ooh, I said that in such a mature way. I know you understand. Interesting. Keep speaking girl lady. So I was impressed myself, but my sister, who I grew up [00:06:00] with she's 10 years older than me. Okay. And so it, the joke is that, We're both like pretty much only children because of the fact that like, we were so far apart in age, but we have such a close bond.

So I'm, I'm the youngest though. Out of the total is five, but I grew up with one with one sibling. So, but I'm the youngest regardless. Wow. So I got a question. So the oldest, how much older is the oldest than you? 10 years. 10 years. Oh, so it's 10. Ok. Mm-hmm. . Ok. It's 10. Got it. Mm-hmm. . Yep. 10 years. Wow. Okay.

So with, with that being said, growing up, you said feeling like an only child, basically in, in aspects of that, did, do you think that afforded you a little bit more attention from your parents than you would've had if grown up with all five of those folks at the same time? You know, I never thought about that.

And I imagine probably so, but I, but I also think [00:07:00] that the attention is, I think it's less about like, I think more than just being like just the two of us in the household and attention being able to be like divided in that way. I think a big, big thing was my mom, for the first like few years of my life, my mom stayed at home.

and she also was, I was a Head Start baby, so my mom also taught Head Start, so she was also like, Wow, my teacher, or like, she was right down the hall. So I think that a lot of that, you know, my dad was in Saudi Arabia when I was born, Like he was in military, so he was in Operation Desert Storm. So my mom really took, you know, the helm obviously, and just, you know, kept ships.

But she was really good at being observant. Mm-hmm. and, and giving time and space. So I, that is something to think about. I've never thought about it in that way before. I'm sure that that has to play a factor into things, [00:08:00] obviously. But we also. We also had a lot of other children around us too, in terms of just being a military kid.

Like you kind of get those, those friends when you can. I heard of I, There's always, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though you have the expectation that in probably a couple of years, you know, I'll move and we'll never see each other again. But it's those things, you know, sometimes. Yeah. But I get those stories. I get those stories now.

Cause recently I, I've been, I recently got. So I now have a wife, Miss Fo congrats. Yes, yes. I'm a I'm an honest man. Now let me go ahead, hit C. There it is. There it is. And I focus said hit tree . Pardon me. Pardon me. So yeah, she's actually military brat herself and had to move around a lot. And she's explained, explains to me that dynamic all the time and why she takes her friendships that she does have so very dearly, like she holds onto these people and tries to follow.

Make sure she stays in contact with them and she beats me up about not staying in [00:09:00] contact with my folks and et cetera, because she's like, Br, they actually like you. Why don't you go talk to 'em . Absolutely, Absolutely. I mean, it's, it's pretty interesting. Like it's, it's pretty interesting because it does affect you and, and what even when you think it's not affecting you, but as an adult, when you can kind of look back and say, Oh, those are those, Okay, I see the patterns now.

Yeah. Why these friendships mean so much to me, because I, you. I love hearing about people who have been friends since they were, Isn't it amazing? Yeah. And I'm like, Wow. I'm like, That sounds cool. You know? And so I, I think that friendships and I think, you know, once again, being in a different age bracket than my sister when I would have friends that were my age, you know, sometimes they're, they're, I have a friend right now from high school that he's a little bit younger than me, but like, I cherish that friendship because that's like, he's like a brother to me.

Exactly. Like, I've kind of like absorbed him as like a, as an additional sibling. But [00:10:00] you know, so those relationships are, are I. So, you know, my name is Tamaya. Sorry, . I, I, I was excited about this whole conversation with you, but as we all know from our own personal experience from staying at hotels that hos the hospitality industry provides customers with positive experiences, which eventually increases your retention rate.

It's the same for other industries, such as marketing and entertainment. So, since you have worked in each of these industries, can you tell us the differences and also the similar. Oh man, that's, it's a great question. And I saw this question, I was like, Man, that, that's awesome because, you know, the hospitality industry and the marketing industry really do align well with each other because it's about connecting with people.

It's about connecting with people. It's about establishing trust with people. It's about understanding where the pain points are and then providing people with solution to those pain points. And I, a lot of times people may not think like, Well, what pain points? Well, I mean, [00:11:00] if you need a restful weekend, And you want to go to a hotel or a, like a, a big chunk of buy hospitality experiences in like food and Bev.

You go to a nice restaurant, you're coming there because you want to relax, you want to decompress, you wanna do all those things. Preach. Marketing is going to also be in that space of like, What do you need and how can I point you in the direction of what you need? It's not just about selling to people or get in here and spend this bread.

The bread is nice. Let's be honest. It pays the bills. It's not so you got to do that. But that experience and like tailoring the experience to the person, like that's the, the beautiful tie I think between marketing and and hospitality with done. Yeah, like you said, it's all person centered. That's really what it comes down to.

I like how you, you said the pain. I never thought about that. The pain point, Like I would've never thought of that. Which is [00:12:00] your favorite industry, though. That's hard to say. Now that that's hard to say. I, you know, it really is hard because being in, in these three buckets, like I only recently realized that these.

Buckets, Entertainment. Hospitality and marketing had been running like simultaneously in my life. Bec I, I didn't plan it that way, but that's how it ha especially the hospitality factor like that, that one was kind of a sleeper agent. I did not see that coming, but when I looked over in my life, I was like, Dang, like this has always been me.

Like this. This is a part of me. So it's hard to say which one is my favorite, but I will say, If I had to answer it right now, I would say hospitality because I love for people to have a great time, like mm-hmm. it, it fills my heart with joy to see people relaxed and feeling safe [00:13:00] and secure, and I like pampering people.

I love throwing surprises. If you come to Charleston, I wanna tell you where you could go. I through this, do that. I'll be hitting you up then. I'm from Charleston. I don't even know everything, so information. Oh, y'all are my, y'all are my favorite. The Charlestonians that ain't did nothing. Boss. Look, Von y'all always telling me, especially like when they whenever we would do programs, like if we were doing upper bound and we have all those children, and, and I'll ask, I'm like, You have walk up King Street and they'd be like, What?

What's that? What do you walk up King Street? I'm like, You ain't been out this store. They like, No. I'm like, Y'all live here, right? I mean, I was walk by your house the other day. They, Yeah, so I used to force 'em to go places, force 'em to go out. Charles Charlestonians are my favorites to talk to, especially Black Charlestonians, because to me I feel very much like this y'all's Anyway,

Yeah. So it's like it's. Sometimes when you have that [00:14:00] perspective of growing up, of course you see it in a different light. So it's like, yeah, you know, you, you already have an association of what, like, Oh, the tourists go through that, or whatever, maybe. But there's so many beautiful things and aspects that sometimes I find that some like, Charlestonians don't even know are there, which I don't fault them for that.

Like, you know, can't I, I primarily grew up in Columbia. Like I wasn't running the streets of Columbia. Like I, you know how I was doing, I know everything about Columbia. I dunno nothing about Charles. This is a very good question. At what age do you think you really come to the spot where you're, wherever you're living, you're actually now running the streets in an official Oh, that's a good question.

Cause, think, Cause I always ask people this, cause you're from such and such, I'm like, Not yet. Cuz you ain't been running streets. You ain't been nowhere. No. You was a child. He was a child. Yeah. Didn't know nothing about nothing until you get to, to the point where go out there. Yeah. Well I'ma say this, I'm not even gonna put a age number on it cause I know some people that are are, that are up there and, and definitely not running those streets.

[00:15:00] But what I do say is I think once you have a level of involve Yeah. Then you can say that you are like, whether that involvement is like, say you're a regular. Connoisseur of every new restaurant that opens up. Yeah. That you getting to know the city any way that you let you go to like, understand the city, even if it's not like, like for me.

I threw events, like I do events. I've done, I've done a, a ton of stuff in Charleston and I haven't even scratched the surface, but I've done things that put me in all different areas of Charleston, Mount Pleasant, Summerville, Hannah Hand, you know, West Ashley, James Island, all of these places that, like, I've done something that has landed me in these different areas.

So I, that's where I feel like that's when you really start getting inundated in the city. Like when. You know where to look for like what's going on this weekend. Like I, I, I'm gonna tell you, and if y'all are one of these people, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna say this, I can't stand somebody and say I'm bored.[00:16:00] 

Ain't nothing to do. Go ahead, get involved. No, I'm gonna call you. I'm just call you , call. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's it. So there's always something to do and I think that once you realize that there's something to do, then you start kind of getting involved in the city. You know?

So I kind of feel like it's like who, you know. So how did you get connected with Charleston Wine? So Charleston wanted food, let's see, 20, 20. I a friend of mine that was working there as a volunteer coordinator, she hit me up and said, You know, I, I need some help with this. Like, you know, there's an opening for an assistant volunteer and it was a contract position, so it was something that I could still work while having my job.

And so I was like, Okay, cool. Yeah, I, I can help, you know, help organize that. And then that's really how I got into. And loved it. Like I had been, like Charleston Wine and Food is another one. That Wine and Food Festival is another one that I'm like, you know, if I had a goal in life, it would be for every like local [00:17:00] that's interested in something like that.

Yes. To go and experience it because it's like, dang, like it's international is major. That's all I hear people talk about. Yeah. It's super dope and it's something that I'm very passionate about and I, and I know my coworkers. Especially my, my, my close friend that I work with, like we're very passionate about like, Black people being there because , because it's in, it's, it's enjoyable.

And, and once again, like, I'll, I'll sound like a broken record, but I, you know, that's, I mean that, like, I feel like that's the group that should be benefiting and it's the culture that is the reason that attracts people. But you know what? Yeah. But you know what's so weird about it? And I know, and I know we can all, I guess I know me me vp, and I know Aller can speak on this a little bit.

Is, it seems like it's like, like especially like if you were born, if you were black and you were born and raised in Charles, And you have, and you have conversations with people who have come [00:18:00] from other places. It's like it's two separate worlds. Yep. It's very different. Yeah. So it's like a conversation that, like that we would have us going to college.

There's a lot different than someone like Tamaya would have about things. Right. Cause we'll know about. Absolutely. You know, we're wired into all of those types of things and they're like, Oh, we didn't know this was going on. We didn't notice this was happening. And that's something I've always noticed, even when I was down, when I lived down there.

It puts you in a weird mind head space too when you're down there, because I know I live down there long enough to get to know the community and be in the community, work with the community. And even like from the guy, the block boys up to the, the folk who work in the actual restaurants that are from there and just speaking with them, like going to their little kickbacks.

You know, that's what I hung out with facts. I met with regular folks, right? So I'd be there seriously, like you'd be hanging out with them and they would talking to you about certain things and you'd just be like, Yo, You got access, you can go to these places. It's like literally, That's right. They're on the same, you're on the same street.

It's a different vibration of frequency, so they can't see what you can see on that street. 100%. And some [00:19:00] of it is, is tall or learned history. And I remember resting peace, Mr. Lewis. But Mr. Lewis would, would break this down to us. That back in the day there were a lot of stories that were told to black Charlestonians that lived there that would put fear in their minds about going to certain locations, even as like as simply as going to m u usc.

The stories are being abducted and being used for science or medical research. Oh, some of it. Founded in True in in actual, you know, Truth in Truth. Oh, don't get me started on South Carolina. I got a little You can start. Yeah, we got a little bit of time we start cuz like I was born there. So again, it's like, As African American, our culture, this is where our history was born.

Yes. People came here so much emotional felt feelings there. Yeah. When you go downtown and you see all the history and you're like, Wow, like this is where my ancestors started. This is where all the knowledge that I need is here. Tomer Street. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That could feel the energy too. [00:20:00] And, and that's, that's exactly why I feel like the.

it's almost like a, a unification, right? Of like, of just like what you painted, of like you've got someone who, who is from Charleston and what, and what they've been told. And then you've got someone who comes from outside of Charleston who's like, No, actually, like, you know, let's take, let's take both the best of both of these worlds.

Mm-hmm. and, and, and gravitate to something that we know. One, we. To be a part of. And then two is something that's definitely for us as a population. Mm-hmm. . And, and it's wild to me. It's just wild to be honest. See, even at the, you know, we both went to the college, went to college in Charleston, and, and I remember being total orientation college.

Charleston might not wanna hear this, but you know, I said that love for you. But in orientation, we were told to not mix with the locals. Yeah. To not talk to the locals. Oh, you did? Yeah, girl. Oh yes. For a fact. Yeah. Yes. And for a. It was don't get. That was based out of [00:21:00] fear. Yeah. And ignorance. Yeah. And, and that was something that like I did and I can't remember it as playing as day and.

Here I am. I, you know, when I got look, tell she better slap somebody, Slap somebody right now. And she should, and she deserves to be Matt and she deserves to be Matt because that right there, especially being at a predominantly white institution. Mm-hmm. like that was so, I mean, I know that now, and once again this was 2010.

I am. I'm certain they're not saying those things now. Girl. Look. Look girl. You remember, remember the boundaries during Spectra? I was just about to say that. Yeah. What were the boundaries for y'all? Oh man. I, We couldn't go past, I can't remember them all, but Cannon. Cannon was the one for us. We couldn't go past spring, so we got more.

We went up spring. Yeah. Yeah. Gentrification care of that. Yeah. Dang. Kevin said, That's so cold. the gentrification to care of that. It's too true. We'll get into that too. When we talk about the. The business where they, Where our cannabis business is. Yes. Because it's so [00:22:00] interesting, like now where I am, like I used to throw parties right there at 1001 King Street.

Say it again. What was the name of the locate? What was the name of the business? You gotta tell the name of this. It was, well it wasn't a business, it was a Masonic lodge. Yeah, but we done this, The blue room. The blue room. I remember the blue room we used had the parties that flu room, telephone room right beside what is now Rodney Scott.

Yeah. Where, where Rodney Scotts used to be a lives right now. It used to be little like car wash, car wash or something. You remember the car wash? Case lion? Yeah. Yeah. So, So you know that's, that's that's way up there. Way up there. Yeah. And that's the kind stumbling back my fault. Gone. I'm sorry we used to be stumbling back.

Me and Marty be out there boot prime time, dude. All day, every. Mr. Raymond and them. I'm trying to tell you, boy, we used to be coming out that place looking all sorts of other ways, but it was a fun time. Very safe. No problems in their environment. It was a [00:23:00] good time. There were no windows. There were no windows in it.

That is right. There were no windows. It's a casino on the floor. The floor would be sweating. Yeah, the floor sweat. It would be, It was just, That's how you knew it was a good party though. The floor would be sweating, man. It would be say shit, I'm, I would've known y'all today. He should've tamma. He should have.

Oh, I remember one time one of my sorority sisters slipped and fell while we were doing a stroll cause it was so slippery. Pop boy. Oh my. That was, I used to be like, Yo, we going into the den tonight? Y'all. That's what used to cause the den. It was like, but it was a great time, man. Y'all used to throw some really cool kickbacks and, and have events for everybody to get together because it's something that we.

Especially on that campus. Good lord. We had that phone at some kind of community. Yeah, that's true. 100%. And that's something that we always talk about too. We talked about it last season with a couple guests we've had on as well. Cause you remember we talked about that with Kenny and we talked that with Sean.

Yeah. Especially with us being at a pwi. Yeah. I think one of the things that [00:24:00] I think we, that we kind of took advantage of at the time we think about it even to this day is that because there were so few of us on campus, cause it was like less than 10%. Yeah. On campus, right? It's like we had no choice but to hang out with each other.

Whereas if we would've been, and there's no shade to H B C U or anything like that, but conversations I've had with folks who in HBCUs, Yeah, they only hung out with people who were just like them. Exactly. Yeah. Like with us, we had no choice but to hang. Like if you weren't Greek, it didn't matter. You had to hang out with the Greeks and the Greeks to hang to their events.

We had to support each other. That's so crazy. We donuts and look, remember what I used to do? I used to bring people to they bake sale. Like I would bring my whole group to the bake sale and buy the bake sale. I would just go to their bake and be like, $50. Gimme everything off. Y'all leave ball. Come on.

Balling. Yeah. Come on balling. I used to. I used to do that. I support my people on campus. Yeah. It's a, Yeah, it's a fact. And, and I, you know, I really [00:25:00] like what I see with at the college now because when I was in there, it also bothered, bothered me that it seemed like the only group that black students could join would be either BSU or Greek.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, and I remember saying, and I had some people that were upset with me about this. And I, I remember that conversation as clear as day, but I meant what I said. I was like, I said, Yo, y'all don't have to join these organizations. You do not have to join any MPHC organization. Like you don't have to do that to make a difference.

I said, You can. You can create your own clubs, you can do your own stuff. Like you don't have to be. To do this and, and that was, that was an important thing. And I was the president at one point saying this stuff and people were like, Well, we supposed to be recruiting. I said, Man, Recruit. If somebody wanna be Greek, they gonna be Greek.

We got something bigger on our hands right now he has a bigger problem. He are trying to, to, to feel like they belong. They're trying to find themselves [00:26:00] like this is, this is where we at with this, you know? And so I see a lot of groups now at the College of Charleston that I feel like do that exact thing where it was like, you didn't have to be Greek.

Like you go to, you go to HBCUs and there's people who, everybody ain't. That's what's, I be one of 'em. That's why, that's why I'm like, I respect that because like they've really forced that on you. Like you don't wanna be Greek. And I'm like, No. Why? That doesn't cross my mind. Like that was never my interest.

Like, don't society. Yeah. I always, That's right. I always, always Always applaud at you for that long because even my my wife, you know, she has the best memory of you. You were one of her special leaders. She said, Man, she was the coolest. She used to do this, this and that. It didn't matter if I was Greek or not.

You'd go hang out. She was fine. She'd try to teach me how to twerk. I said, Girl, I said for, Cause I was like, Keep that, keep that in the vault. Keep that in the vault. . But I was just like, because I was like, that was always her personality. I never saw Vaughn as a person. Yeah. Who wanted to [00:27:00] create or division.

It was always about inclusion. The reason I think why you joined that was just to show that you could do that and do other things and that's what made it Yeah, Extremely, I would say, How you say, made it extremely attractive. To see the group that you were with, the organization that you're with on campus, cuz your organization was very inclusive.

And that's not the first time I've heard that. I've heard that many. So of course, you know, but that, that's awesome to hear like that, That's really awesome to hear. And I, I take a lot of pride in that kind of stuff because, you know, just like I said earlier about looking at the pain points mm-hmm.

that's what I've always. Been doing without realizing I was doing it. I don't like to see people in pain or discomfort. I don't like seeing that. And, and do you know how much pain humans are in on a regular basis, just like human beings are in pain A lot. And I'm not saying that as a downer, like, but there's, you never know what someone's going through, but you really don't.

And so it don't mean that you [00:28:00] always gotta plaster a smile on your face and, and you know, take crap from people. I'm not saying that we got our boundaries. There's so many times that people, especially in school, would be like, you know, something like, man, there's, there's nothing to do. There's nothing to do that, that interests me here.

You know, like every, every, you know, College of Charleston student got a fake ID and jumping into bars, but that ain't really our scene. That's not our scene. We don't really wanna do that. And so us creating things because of the fact that, like I remember one time in Warren parking. I got a bunch of cars in a circle, opened up the doors, played music, and we double dutched like it was like that was, that was a thing.

Now granted somebody did end they high. Yeah. But hey, but that ain't got nothing to do. Nah. Get a stretch. You created experience. I like that. There you go. Stretch before you start double day . Exactly. And that and. Something. But that, that was the moment of like, I just always had [00:29:00] it in my mind that like, I don't want to, there's only so much complaining I'm gonna do mm-hmm.

Yeah. Like I, I'm, I'm, there's only so much complaining I'm gonna do that problem solver in me. That curiosity, that visionary in me is not gonna sit down and complain too much longer. Like, so that's, that's what I, that's what I carry with me. Smart. So going back to pain points you are the co-owner of Mr.

B C D. Congratulations on, Y'all are leaving pain. So can you tell us what are some of the misconceptions about c and hemp products that you guys sell or, Yeah, so, so first thing I'm gonna do is because, because the lawyers be listening. Okay. I'm not gonna make any, I'm not make any claims, any health claims or anything.

Everything cannabis related is not, this is not FDA approved. Mm-hmm. . So that's just first and foremost. So anything I talk about will be my own experiences. And, you know, testimonials, people have told me. So, you know, you gotta make sure you say that because Thank you. Cover [00:30:00] your answers, baby watch. Right?

Which is another paying point of It's my personal pain point. No. So cannabis, Cannabis, so, so, first. First to kind of address, there's so much I could say about this y'all, but one misconception about C B D in general is that some people think C B D is not cannabis or like let me use some, some traditional words within this too.

Weed, marijuana, like mm-hmm. , people don't understand that c b, D, like they live beside each other. Marijuana that we're used to traditional marijuana. THC Delta nine thc, which is a cannabinoid that occurs naturally within the campus plant. Well, so does C b, D. Mm-hmm. , and they actually work extremely well together.

I always kind of look at you know, there, there's hundreds of cannabinoids, hundreds and hundreds. We don't even, we haven't even identified all the cannabinoids within cannabis. They never allowed that type to look. Come on now. Yeah. [00:31:00] But the, the major ones that we'll kind of talk about right now is like your THC Delta nine and C B D.

Right. Cause these are like kind of the hot ones that people been talking about for a while. Mm-hmm. . But I always paint them as this thc. Imagine you're in a room and THC comes in the door, Delta. And it is just wild. Okay. Like it is just around the room down, it's bouncing around. It's a little paranoid.

It's a little this, it's a little that. And you like, Oh my God, this, this could be a little, but like, I like you, but you're a little, but, and then C B D comes into the room and all of a sudden knows the magic words to make THC kind of straighten up and relax. Yep. So together they are. Right. Like that's, that's what CBD and THC are, are really great partners along with the other cannabinoids.

Right. But specifically with that, so I think that's a big misconception people have. They're like, Oh, I [00:32:00] took this cbd, I didn't feel anything. But that's not how CBD worked. It don't, it, it's not a, it's more of a subtle shift. It's not something that is going. Blast you outta your mind. Like that's not , you know, cannabis, You, Boston Deep Space six.

No. Yeah. You know, like, personally, like you're talking to a cannabis business owner who has a THC sensitivity, Like I got sensitivity THC and, and through trial and error I have learned that. Okay. And so when it came down to it getting into hemp derived cannabinoids and things like that, that was so effective for me.

I knew that there was benefits within the plant, but I knew I had to use it in a different way. So that that's why I'm attracted to it and, and my husband, Becca. That's the last time I'm gonna say is my husband. Cause I can't, His name is Mecca. So there you go for future. Okay. Because it just be too much.

My husband, my husband, like, I know what you mean. I just need to use the name. Yeah. [00:33:00] So Mecca is the one who came to me and said, Hey look, I, I wanna do this in 2019. He was talking about it. And then and then. That's a quick tire research. That's a quick tire. Yes. Yes. And, and Mecca is definitely well versed within like the cannabis industry.

Way more than I, Yeah. Like, you know, I just, I really just started diving into cannabis in 2020, January, 2020. Gotcha. So, That's, and that was one of the biggest misconceptions that I started realizing is that people are like, Well, I don't feel nothing. And what is it like? It's the same thing as this thc, it's just their cousins.

They just do a little something different, you know? Mm. So I, I'm gonna write before I go on a rabbit hole, that's, that's the answer to that question of the misconception. But what are some of the difficulties you guys face? Mm. So the difficulties we face, Wait. Yep. So, Well, first and foremost banking is always a thing.

And I'll [00:34:00] just kind of put that out there like that. I won't touch too deep into banking, but just know it's extremely difficult because of the type of product that it is. And so there's a lot of nuances to that. So I'll just kind of say that to get that part out the way. The second one was hard processors.

When we started this, we got like an online boutique and we take cards, but no processor was trying to take our card like we had because we were dealing with him. Nobody wanted to have the responsibility of like, Oh, you, you know, If it was not for Square, that's who we have now. That's what I was about. If it was not for, If it wasn't for Square, having starting their C B D program, literally the same month that we, Wow.

No, this is what thought. Wanted to start our stuff. Yeah. Seren dip, like, Yeah, because we had made, and we didn't realize this at first, right? Like, so I'm working with my friend and she's helping [00:35:00] us like build a sick website, like it's all good, and then all of a sudden we're like, Wait, how are we gonna.

Payment. How we got, how we gonna take payment. So we try to go to a different area several areas, and they're like, Oh no, that's marijuana. Like, Well, no, it's hemp, it's federally legal hemp. Yep. No, that's marijuana. Mm-hmm. , remember when y'all going for this? Yeah. Oh my God. And so then Square started their C B D program and said, You can sell flour, edibles, oils, tinctures.

And we were. Yes. And so we've been with Square and been in their C B D program since 2020. So that was another one car processor. When it comes to the actual state of South Carolina fun fact for everybody out there, it's gonna blow a lot of people's minds cuz it always does when I tell them, You need nothing to start a C B D business.

Let's say that again. Oh. You need? No, you need no special permits. What [00:36:00] you need No special. Any, Yes. Is it agriculture? Yes, it's agriculture. Yes. My dog. But but check this out now. Go ahead. I don't say that as a positive thing because , because I mean, it's, it's good. It works for us, but this is the reason why they don't want you to open up a retail shop.

They don't want you to open up a retail shop. They don't want you to look for that information. I have. I have been. Phone calls with the Department of Agriculture for the state of South Carolina. They were not supportive. Okay. They were when I said, Oh yeah, I, I, I just wanted to make sure cuz I could find nothing online about it.

The only thing that comes up is the hemp program in South Carolina. So I thought, okay, well maybe that's what I'm supposed to do. So I call up there and I say, Yeah, I was just trying to look at the permits and, you know, cuz they've got handler's license and different, you know, different licensing and stuff like, And they were like, Well, we don't, we don't give those to retail companies.

Wow. If you're a retail shop, [00:37:00] we do not give you these permits. And I said, So is it against the law for me to have the store open? That's when they start tap dancing. Oh no, it's not, but, but, you know he flour is illegal. I said, Well, where does it say that he flour is. There's no law in the state of South Carolina that says Smokeable attempt is illegal.

Well, it's the opinion of the attorney general. Well, opinion not law. Opinion is not law. No, that's right. It's another statute and, and that's another problem in the state of South Carolina, is that we rely too much on our law enforcement to create laws. And that's not, that's not how that goes. So, . Anyway, long story short, there was no answer they could give me.

The only thing that they could give me was they were going off of how in 2019, a lot of these shops on King Street that were CBD shops pretty much, you know, for lack of better words, got raided and got their product taken from them, especially flour, because it used to be that you could get flour from the, [00:38:00] from the shops down here.

And I, and I knew that because I'd gone in there, bought flower before. So when I called and I was. The place down the street is selling flour. Well, y'all aren't supposed to, and we're just gonna leave that up to the municipalities to figure out. They are so messy. All right. Sounds like no one wants to take responsibility for this.

So that would be another thing that I would say was is a thing when it comes to a challenge is the lack of Knowledge that people who try to make laws or people that are like that lack of knowledge that they, that they have is, is very, it can be very frustrating because mm-hmm. , they don't know what they're talking about.

They don't know what. What to advise you on. There's no advice. And they're trying to enforce things that haven't been decided that aren't even law. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And so when you're doing that, that's a dangerous place to be in. Mm-hmm. , because then that means you're, [00:39:00] Who are you doing this for?

Then it's not the people. So who are you trying, Why are you trying to sway us to move in this direction? It, it's not a law. So now you're just trying to persuade. Yeah. So why, who are you persuading for? Yeah. Yeah. So, so that was something, and I know in the beginning, like, you know It was something that really made me nervous in the beginning.

I'm not gonna lie to y'all. Like that made me super nervous cuz I was like coming from me. No, I was, I remember there was a point in time where you all had it on the website, like literally. We have this, you cannot, we cannot sell this in the state of South Carolina unless Shipp. And I'm like, What? What y'all selling?

Y'all look like it's normal stuff. I've been following y'all. Cause y'all went through the process of getting everything together and looked like everything was up to code. Everything was up the law. That's why I was like, Oh, this be super dope. Yeah. And you know where that came from? What that came from?

That came from the fact that, once again, somebody's funky opinion. Mm. About, Oh, we can't sell flour to in-state people. This was crazy. Wow. [00:40:00] But they can say So after a while. Yeah, after a while. Like, and I really give a lot of credit to Becca because I feel like a lot of times Mecca is, is grounding for me to remind me of like, Hey, look like that's not the law.

Yeah. This is what the law is. And so it, I feel like a lot of times, like even for me as an owner and somebody who In this industry, like, yeah, sometimes this stuff is scary. Right? Right. You're like, Man, like I don't wanna, you know, I don't wanna misstep, I don't wanna do this, but you're also just jumping off the porch a lot of times.

So it's like you just, you just have to stand on your two feet, know your rights and keep it pushing. That's business owner, that's, you're not wanting to like lose all of your eggs. Like that's something that you're building for the next generation and you don't wanna, you know, see it all go up in. Not amazing, especially when you're, you're, you're, Yeah.

A nice one. Nice one. Especially, you know, we, we bootstrap our business. Yeah. [00:41:00] This is, this is, this is money outta our pocket. This is our save money. This is, this is how we invest. You know, like, and so this, this is all coming from us because, you know, getting a loan for a cannabis business, Whot what?

Where don't, us don't exist. . So this is us really putting our blood sweats, tears into this thing. So so those are kind of the biggest things is like that lack of information, the gray area, you know, you know, you try to use it to your advantage, but you, you have to be on the up and up. That's why I joined SC Normal cuz I was like, I've gotta be smart.

I gotta be involved in what's going on with these cannabis conversations that are going on because, and also y'all, legislation wise, Black and brown people get locked up so much for this. Yep. In 2018, they had a study come out, ACLU had a study come out about how, I think in Charleston or Beaufort County or whatever it may do, or Dorchester County, it was like black people were 3.5 times more likely to be arrested for possession.

It was so, so to [00:42:00] me, I'm like, if you don't think we gonna have a cannabis, Business. Yeah, yeah. You know, and, and be in this space at the corner of King of Rome, these streets. Yeah. Okay, then we're, we're going to do that , you're like, Who's pushed? You what I'm saying? Exactly. So anyway, that, that's kind of initial thoughts.

I think that answers the questions I can, girl. Yes you did. I can ran rape about this all day. No, but I understand the reason why. And I know, just for wrapping up, I must ask, this is one question we ask of everybody who comes on the show. Yeah. How do you manage your time between juggling so many projects throughout your life and, you know, living life, your work life balance?

How do you do that? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I've, I've been able to comfortably like, get into a good groove of this within the last couple of years which is when I, I, I give myself a whole lot of. I try to slow myself down. Like I try to not put so much pressure on myself, so I compliment myself a [00:43:00] lot.

This, this is how I balance this stuff. I compliment myself a lot. I tell myself, you know, if I've done something, I say, Good job, Von. Like, I celebrate every win. I don't care what it is. I don't care. There's no perception of it being small or big. I celebrate every single win. And I continuously show.

Love and admiration. Somebody recently asked me, they said, Well, how did, like you look successful in this and that? I said, Oh, cuz I love myself. That's the reason why. And, and it's a, it's a question, it's an answer. That's just like, if you really think about how far you will go, If you simply loved yourself and gave yourself some credit and gave yourself some grace in tough situations, you will find that you will, you will, you will be way more productive.

Way more success. , like it starts with you. You can't, being on the radio and all this other kind of stuff. Like I used to be on the radio and then wasn't on the radio anymore. Like, lemme tell you, [00:44:00] when you're in a space of like people would consider to be limelight and then you decide not to be in that limelight stuff be real different people don't be around all this other kind of stuff.

So I say that to say you can't be dependent on the applause of other people. Like you've got to love what you're. . Like, you have to do that. So that's, that's how I balance that. And then I got a, I've got an awesome family. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I've got, I I have things that I look forward to, you know, I enjoy spending time with with my son, with my husband, like mm-hmm.

that, that's fun stuff. And my family in general. Yeah. So like, I try to set boundaries too. It's like, if it's something for my family, I want to be there. You know, Like I wanna be there because they keep me. So, yeah. Excellent. Great way to, yeah, great way to wrap up. And so before we leave, we're gonna go ahead and do, sign out.

We must go ahead and let you do your shameless plugs. Do you have any upcoming projects or anything we can expect from you in the future? And then of course [00:45:00] please drop your your social medias so that people can get the Yeah, absolutely. I would try to definitely keep this short. So, For Mr. B, there's, man, there's a whole lot of fun stuff that we've got planned for Mr.

B. Mr B has new products all the time and, and we, especially when it comes to the flower, there's some big moves that's coming here soon with the flower that we are really excited about. Flowers is something that we love, but we also are, are moving into high T H C A flour, which is going it, That's a big one, y'all.

That's a big one. So if you are, if you're a traditional smoker or like maybe you've been trying to like, you know, still obtain that kind of, that kind of experience. So we're gonna have a compliance product that's going to really. Get you closer to that. And then we've got some events that we've got up our sleeves that, that we think are gonna be really dope.

In terms [00:46:00] of let's see, what else In terms of like the audio business that I do, stuff like that. That's just pushing along. It's chugging along. There is some podcast promotion platforms that I'm starting over. Plans that I. My sleeve as well that I'll be looking to probably launch at the beginning of the year or at least Q1 of next year.

But other than that, that's, I'm gonna keep it right. Oh, and then se normal, I gotta, you know, I gotta plug my piece. Se normal South Carolina normal. Normal is an advocacy group, you know, working to reform marijuana laws and we've got events coming up. But for sure, next January we are looking to have another lobby.

Where we go to the capital, we talk about trash. Yeah. You know, we talk, we talk that, talk those facts. Mm-hmm. and so that's gonna be exciting too. Excellent, Excellent. Well yes, your social medias, we didn't get your medias. We need to know how to, how they can find you, your website. Most, most specific.[00:47:00] 

So, so I'm gonna keep this to, you can call, you can follow me at Vaughn post. It's at Vaughn Postma on Instagram and then follow Mr. B C B D that's at Mr. B C B D on Instagram. And check us out at MR B C B d.com and if you in Charleston, come holler at us because we are open. . Pull on up, Make alo appointment.

Cuz this is a boutique. Yes it is. It's a boutique. I'm You said that Yeah. You can't just run on so in there like that. Show some respect. Yeah, . Well it's a pleasure as always. Anytime I speak with Yvonne you always have good words to say and you're always in a good mood. Whenever I speak with you, I always like to hear what you have to say and how you're feeling and what's going on.

So I'll try not to be a stranger, but I will say from the folks here at the Hilltop Club Podcast, we appreciate you. We want to thank you for joining us today, taking time outta your busy week. So for myself, DJ Ann what? Miss Tamaya Allen. My brother, of [00:48:00] course. Kevin, Skip and Magic Mike right here over on the side.

I would wait here, say something, Mike. Oh yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm just a fan. I've been, I've been sitting back listening cause I've been following this whole situation as it's been going through Columbia and watching shops like Lose their flower. Yeah. And then you go down the block until you're in Forest Acres and you get another set of rules entirely, which has always been just Oh yeah.

Nuts to me. But, but yeah. Yeah. Good, good, good work that you're doing out there. CBD for pain relief. Like, like my wife had a back situation and that, that like saved her literally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Man, that's, Look, I, I need people like y'all. I need people like y'all because that's the, that's the best way we're gonna make some noise in South Carolina.

Some people think it's impossible. I say no. I told you I've got that visionary element about me, and I know that if the people. If the people make noise, it's going to make a difference. So I appreciate you giving that testimonial too, because there's even things [00:49:00] within that. There's, there's so much that we could be benefiting from.

Yes. You know, and so what, what's ours needs to be back in our hands. So Yeah. For a fact, any way we can help you, just let us know. Oh, for, for sure. I will be hitting y'all up. You can catch, Matter of fact, I lose my last minute. You can catch me every Wednesday live streaming cannabis conversation. So, so come, come check me, y'all come check me every Wednesday.

We stream live on YouTube and Facebook. So if you follow South Carolina normal on YouTube you'll see me every Wednesday. At 7:00 PM we just did this kind of revamp. So we are, there's some new things happening with, with our chapter because we've been like, we've been wanting to get a little bit more active and that's happening now.

So interact with me, talk to me on those Wednesdays because that's that's gonna be crucial. Gonna be perfect. Thank you so much. We enjoyed this. Thank you so much. Yes. You know. Hey, thanks y'all. I appreciate it. Certainly. And from the Hilltop Globe podcast. It's one time. Everybody have a great peaceful weekend.

Be safe [00:50:00] out there. Tell everybody around you that you love.