The Hilltop Glove Podcast | Morowa Mosai & R-Dotta

[00:00:00] DJ And?: Hey everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Hilltop Glove Podcast. Today we have the pleasure of speaking with Maro Messiah and Arta. Maro is a visual artist, model, entrepreneur and graphic designer in Charleston, South Carolina. She describes herself as Afrocentric and empowered Fme femininity with a focus on women of color.

[00:00:17] DJ And?: She sells paintings, prints, and handcrafted jewelry on her website. Mar and Co. Our data is an artist, entrepreneur, and executive producer in Charleston, South Carolina. His 2018 single top notch introduced the Holy Cities rap community to his rich voice and captivating style. In 2019, his debut mixtape, call Me Die, is where you really get to see him shine.

[00:00:38] DJ And?: Lyrically he sees himself as a writer storyteller. Together this newly engaged. Go ahead. Give 'em some noise. Give 'em some noise. Yep. Black love. Black love recently sparked Instagram celebrating their engagement on Valentine's Day at the historic Charleston County Pineapple Fou Fountain. How are you guys doing today?

[00:00:55] Morowa Mosai: Wow. . That was good. I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Thanks. We're doing good, y'all. [00:01:00] I promise. I am engaged. I just keep forgetting to put my ring 

[00:01:02] DJ And?: on. She don't love me. Hey, my, my wife. My wife had the same problem. . I forgot my ring today. Did take it off. Y'all 

[00:01:09] Mic: take it. 

[00:01:09] Morowa Mosai: I'm, I have a d h, adhd. If I don't take out Oh, and put it, check it.

[00:01:13] Morowa Mosai: I gotta put it in a safe place when I do things. My ring is a fidget. 

[00:01:17] Mic: Oh really? My wife got that specifically smart. Cause I have adhd. No, 

[00:01:25] R-Dotta: that wasn't in the store. 

[00:01:28] Mic: wasn't. It's it is also like some cheap stainless steel inside. ain't nothing fancy. You're gonna go around me for 

[00:01:33] DJ And?: my ring.

[00:01:33] DJ And?: You can play. Exactly. That's good. I'm not gonna lie. I'm trying to update, I'm trying to get some silicone going on, I hate metal on my skin. So facts. Yeah. I just mess with all the time. I take it off, I leave it off because it feels like it's sticking. But if so people 

[00:01:46] Mic: take that as like a, like a symbol of your like problem with being bound to marriage and 

[00:01:51] DJ And?: shit.

[00:01:51] DJ And?: It's really not. It's just, it's not metal wrap on your finger. How? 

[00:01:55] Mic: Forget put it on. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 

[00:01:57] DJ And?: getting a tattoo. A tattoo. You getting a tattoo? Yeah. [00:02:00] Don't, cause All right. I did this the other day. I forgot my ring. And I was at work and they were messing with me about forgetting my ring.

[00:02:05] DJ And?: So I just took a Sharpie and I just drew what the ring was. I said, yo, get off me. Leave me alone. I'm good. I know where I'm at. Yeah. So getting it tatted on that makes sense. Yeah. Keeps 

[00:02:14] Mic: you from getting this perpetual callous that ends up hitting right there. I heard about. I've heard about that. I don't have heard nothing about that.

[00:02:20] Mic: Yeah. You gotta , you gotta be using your hands, you gotta be like building shit. Like you gotta, yeah. No, I don't. It's from a 

[00:02:27] DJ And?: mouse. Pushing that mouse hard. Not pushing pee. Pushing mouse. Pushing mouse. Get it right. Get it right. Push that hand. So it's 

[00:02:33] Mic: more like apple control shift, designer thing.

[00:02:36] DJ And?: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pushing. Key push. Oh, pushing key. All right. That's a new oh, I'm a rapper. Get it. That's how you're talking about teamwork. Make the dream work. Of course with our podcast, we do have a list of questions that we're gonna go down. We're gonna try to keep things in order.

[00:02:49] DJ And?: However, if we do get in a nice little tangent, we're gonna ride with it. It's not a problem at all. We always like to begin with this because it's something that makes sense. If you do not know somebody, you need to know the. Background, [00:03:00] so early beginnings and influences and just easily put as creatives, your childhood experiences may be a little different from the average.

[00:03:09] DJ And?: Can you tell the audience a little bit about your experiences growing up and who or what influenced you to be who you are today? And we'll start with the lady first. 

[00:03:17] Morowa Mosai: All right. Hey y'all. How y'all doing? Woo. First of all, I wanna say thank you guys for having me back. Yes, ma'am. I'm happy to be here in a room full of all these beautiful, creative people.

[00:03:27] Morowa Mosai: So I really that first question because it really made me think, I was like, man, how did I become who I am today? And I think my short answer is I had no choice but to be who I am today. And the long answer is I usually tell people ask me when did you start painting?

[00:03:44] Morowa Mosai: When did you start drawing? When did you start doing this? And I usually say, as far back, I popped out the womb with a brush and a. Painful for my mom, . But no, like ever since, I can't remember, I've always been. Trying to create in some way with whatever I had, [00:04:00] whether it was I was outside and I'm putting together little sticks and rocks and dirt, or I'm just in class and I'm right on the corner of my math test because or drawn on the corner of my math test because I'm not gonna pass it.

[00:04:10] Morowa Mosai: I have so missed miss vulnerability. Gimme 10 for effort. And this is something I talked about with you guys on the last podcast I did with y'all, but thank you for your vulnerability. So I'm. Take a chance and be vulnerable. Today, I have a math learning disability that I did not find out until.

[00:04:26] Morowa Mosai: Last year that I had, yeah, a word, a long struggle to graduate college and difficulties with my scholastic career my entire life, right? And then undiagnosed A D H D until college. And I'd always been in like the gifted and honors classes, always, stood out from my peers. Then I got to college and shit hit the fan and I was what do I do?

[00:04:48] Morowa Mosai: And in regards to how I got to where I am today. As for my art, I always gravitated towards the thing that brought me the most joy. Towards the thing where I felt purpose and passion and [00:05:00] safe and love and I also attributed a lot of it to my parents because they saw that in me as a child, and I'm grateful that.

[00:05:09] Morowa Mosai: Fed that in me. So they got me art supplies, they put me in classes, summer camps and programs. And they never told me any dream that I had was too big. Dope. They always made me think that I could accomplish whatever it is that I wanted to do, and I know everybody doesn't get that. So I appreciate having that because that's hard to find.

[00:05:30] Morowa Mosai: Even in just a partner or a spouse. But yeah, supportive family and friends and I had no choice. Even if I didn't have that, I'd be an artist. I had a professor tell me one day, a professor, right Alex? It's not real, really realistic. By the way, my name is Alex. Realistic to think that you're gonna be a full-time artist and that's gonna be a successful football.

[00:05:52] Morowa Mosai: That's exactly how I looked at him. I was like, what am I doing here in your class? Says [00:06:00] 

[00:06:00] Mic: the one. Teaches. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck all . There's this thing called Instagram and like

[00:06:14] Morowa Mosai: You know what they say about those who let me stop. Oh, coaches. Coaches. I got, let me stop cuz there's some great coaches out there. . . But today I am a full-time artist, graphic designer with an artist residency. Thank y Thank y'all. Thank y'all. My own art studio, my dream art studio, teaching art classes to a beautiful community of residents.

[00:06:34] Morowa Mosai: And every day I wake up in a cost-free housing apartment or my residency so as hell. Okay. Oh, what just happened this year and. Wait, 

[00:06:45] Mic: wait. I'm sorry. That's reality or that's, no, this is real. This is, 

[00:06:48] DJ And?: that's real. No, that's 

[00:06:49] Mic: real. Tv. Tv. He was like, like a fantasy of like communist China. If it wasn't, no, this is my life.

[00:06:53] Mic: China. Yeah. Okay. All we're right now. Congratulations. [00:07:00] The paper. 

[00:07:03] Morowa Mosai: Yeah. But yeah. So did I answer the question? 

[00:07:06] DJ And?: Yeah, you're answering. You can continue to answer 

[00:07:08] Morowa Mosai: the question. Okay. I'm done now. Thank. Turn. 

[00:07:12] DJ And?: All right, Mr. Adada. So of course we didn't have you on the last episode. You were listening in the background.

[00:07:17] DJ And?: We were waiting to bother you because we bothered her. We bothered the hell outta her. Okay. So tonight, man, the mic is yours on this one on the floor. We want to hear about. I'm bother man. I'm be honest with you. That's what I like to hear. Yeah. Excellent. So what about you? What about your upbringings and your start ran you into where you are now?

[00:07:34] DJ And?: Brought you into the area? I'm 

[00:07:35] R-Dotta: the complete opposite. I suck at arts and crafts. I tell this joke all it's not a joke. It's actually true. I can't fold a paper hotdog style. It takes me like three times to do it. So I was that kid. So instead of being able to make the art, I said, okay, I can write poetry in the STRs was to look like.

[00:07:54] R-Dotta: And then eventually it turned into rap. My mom. Helped influenced me a whole lot as far as like with [00:08:00] rapping because she gave me certain CDs to listens to. So I attribute Chuck D from Public Enemy and Run DMC teacher I that rap like that and LL 

[00:08:08] DJ And?: Cool J My bad. Yeah. Yes. Oh, shoot. Could stop playing with me like that.

[00:08:11] DJ And?: Go ahead, keep talking. 

[00:08:12] R-Dotta: It just, one day, and I think I was in fifth or sixth grade, I wrote a rap. My first rap. I remember it, but whatever. Anyway, this kid Trell from Ponderosa man he saw me writing writing it, and he read it and he said, oh, that's hard. I didn't, I never stopped. Wow.

[00:08:26] R-Dotta: Where are you from? West Ashley. Charleston. 

[00:08:29] DJ And?: Dope, dope. All. Miss, Ms. Monroe, aren't you, are you also from 

[00:08:33] Morowa Mosai: Charleston? Nah, I'm a military kid. I'm not exactly sure where I'm from. Oh gosh. . 

[00:08:38] DJ And?: See, this was, oh yeah, this is, I remember. Touching on the last one. So this is interesting. What branch was your family?

[00:08:42] DJ And?: Yeah, 

[00:08:43] Mic: What branch 

[00:08:43] Morowa Mosai: was your family? Army. Okay. Yeah, so I've lived a few places up and down the, and as soon as I say this, y'all gonna be like, man, you from there, I've lived in Summerville. No. I've lived in the Charleston area for about 14, 15 years. Okay. 

[00:08:54] DJ And?: From you. From there. Say it again.

[00:08:57] DJ And?: Say how we get y'all together, how 

[00:08:58] Mic: get together. That's the difference between a [00:09:00] military family is like that mindset is like you're. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're here for 10 years, we gonna go 

[00:09:06] Morowa Mosai: tomorrow. Yes. You about to get up and go somewhere, right? Yeah, 

[00:09:08] R-Dotta: but see, my, my dad was in the mil, man stayed married for a long time, but my dad was in the military too.

[00:09:11] R-Dotta: I spent time in Fort Hood, Texas. I'm not from Fort Hood, Texas. I'm from West Ashley. 

[00:09:16] DJ And?: I gotta ask, I, and I gotta ask because you do not have that typical. That I West Ashley, 

[00:09:24] R-Dotta: you have to get me 

[00:09:25] DJ And?: mad all so y'all do not get our dollar mad in here and go to that Geechee order.

[00:09:30] DJ And?: What? 

[00:09:30] Mic: Where are you from, bruh? Whate. 

[00:09:33] DJ And?: Yo. You right where you from? I'm I from nowhere talking. Huh? Nowhere. Nowhere. Everywhere. Ah, yeah. So I moved around a lot too. Y'all, we 

[00:09:42] R-Dotta: gonna start playing with Y ? It's, 

[00:09:45] DJ And?: but yeah. Cuz of course I lived in Charleston. I worked in the Charleston scene in the food and beverage scene as well as in the creative art scene.

[00:09:53] DJ And?: And so actually ran by you before. . Yeah, but you didn't, we didn't know each other at the time. Oh. So yeah. [00:10:00] This is why, this was interesting. When my brother brought this up, he said, Hey, do you know who this person is? I was like, yeah, I know that name. I worked around the person beside the person. Behind the person, but never in front of the person's.

[00:10:12] DJ And?: So yeah, that's why I was interested when he bought that up. Yes. It's a very small world. And so we always try to reach out to folks that we've known, that we've either ran by or touched. There's something that we can pick up from everybody. Now, just building on this this journey that you all had to the point where you're at now, especially being in a relationship as creatives.

[00:10:30] DJ And?: I think this is very interesting, especially in the town that y'all are coming out of. How did you all meet? 

[00:10:38] Morowa Mosai: Start over. Yeah, I'll start. We met in college at Charleston Southern University. Shout it out. Buccaneers, right? Ooh. Yeah. And we both . I think he saw me first. I'll go there. . He saw me first.

[00:10:49] Morowa Mosai: I'll let y'all, I'll let you tell that story. Go ahead. Leave ate. 

[00:10:52] Mic: Okay. 

[00:10:55] R-Dotta: Oh, I thought you just giving me the mic. My bad. No, 

[00:10:57] Mic: no. That's what marriage is. You just pass it off hot. You [00:11:00] ain't gonna any prep, you just prep. 

[00:11:01] Morowa Mosai: Go real quick. She passed, told me to, hold on. I was like I'm gonna forget if I don't during, make a note and then come back.

[00:11:08] Morowa Mosai: Just real quick, we both join the blackest club on campus. Ah, American 

[00:11:13] R-Dotta: Society. Wait, what? I restarted it. I didn't, he 

[00:11:16] Morowa Mosai: restarted. I joined as and then I ended up being like, what? Vice president or something? Yeah, eventually. Yeah. Yeah. We were conspiracy theorists in college and that's pretty much how we connected Clap for the 

[00:11:28] DJ And?: conspiracy theorist platform cuz they're batting a thousand right now.

[00:11:31] DJ And?: It wasn't 

[00:11:31] R-Dotta: conspiracy because we everything that we talked 

[00:11:33] Mic: about right? Saying or bating a thousands. There is so much conspiracy out there right now. Woo. No. No. So much of how the actual world is run is what we theorize about as conspiracy in the early two thousands. 

[00:11:53] DJ And?: What it was. Yes.

[00:11:54] DJ And?: I'm sorry. 

[00:11:55] Mic: Yes. And we derived that from the idea of what they did before. Which is [00:12:00] exactly the same fucking shit that they did before that history pizza. So all the, 

[00:12:05] DJ And?: that's all it does. Systems. Yes, I agree. And so that was a good reason. Start it back. So conspiracies are not, conspiracies are real except for the ones that 

[00:12:14] Mic: are crazy.

[00:12:14] Mic: Yeah. All right. Continue. And they're real. 

[00:12:17] R-Dotta: Oh. So just Vulnerable moment. I dropped outta college twice. So the first time I dropped outta college I went back again in my first day there I was with my homie who was still in college. Yeah, from the first time I dropped out. And We're standing in the cafeteria.

[00:12:32] R-Dotta: I see this girl walking through the door and like I turned down. I said, bro, I'm in trouble. I had a girlfriend 

[00:12:38] DJ And?: at the time. Wow. He sound like new ion back in the day. 

[00:12:42] Mic: It's like a beam coming out. Some other part of the existence that hits you. Yeah. Girl 

[00:12:47] R-Dotta: walks in, has a big afro black pass a green.

[00:12:51] DJ And?: Yo, he remembers what you wore. Wore Step on. Yeah, Lord Jesus. 

[00:12:55] R-Dotta: And he said, I said, yo, who's that? He said, oh, that's Alex. Yeah, she, you probably like her man. [00:13:00] She's pro-black and everything and fight the power and blah, blah. I said, yo, I'm in trouble, man.

[00:13:08] Mic: That's how I surrender. White flag. Let's go . . 

[00:13:12] DJ And?: Alright. Alright. That's actually, you actually remember the day, that's how it is. Yeah. It's crazy. From. 

[00:13:19] Mic: Level of things, 

[00:13:20] DJ And?: but 

[00:13:21] R-Dotta: happens. I'll say this, even by meeting her okay, so she went to Somerville. I graduated from Fort Dorchester. Oh, okay.

[00:13:27] R-Dotta: Oh, 

[00:13:27] DJ And?: okay. Okay. Rivals. Rivals. She ran 

[00:13:31] R-Dotta: track. I did the field Cause I'm not gonna run too much. What you doing Phil shop, but dis I wasn't No wonder you like, you the. I was I was there for participation. I wasn't good enough. Oh, I'm 

[00:13:44] DJ And?: football, football player. Oh, so in the spring instead of doing, yeah, I remember I used to do that 

[00:13:49] R-Dotta: too.

[00:13:49] R-Dotta: You used sport. But anyways, I would see, I would have to see her like Wednesday meets or whatever. Yeah. We never met one of her friends graduated from high school and this is during my, my, my [00:14:00] hot boy era. , 

[00:14:00] DJ And?: Hot boy. Summers, 

[00:14:01] R-Dotta: I meet this girl on Twitter and I'm just, talking to her or whatever cuz she's graduating.

[00:14:05] R-Dotta: So I'm trying to come through to the high school graduation party or whatever, lot of my friends and some of my friends were friends are hers. This is the same year she graduated. She actually knows the girl. I'll show up to the party. This is after years of finding out. I show up to the party like a hour or two after she left.

[00:14:20] R-Dotta: Wow. Got to college. Went to the same college. I dropped outta college the year that she got into college. Wow. Oh. Trying 

[00:14:28] DJ And?: to avoid her. That's when I 

[00:14:29] Mic: met y'all telling us that Karma was trying to, wasn't y'all together? 

[00:14:34] DJ And?: It's crazy, man. Shit and right. Crazy. This is strange. Motherfucker. Yo, this 

[00:14:39] R-Dotta: is wild. We dated for two weeks in Broco.

[00:14:42] R-Dotta: Really? 

[00:14:44] Mic: Okay. 

[00:14:46] DJ And?: Okay. Talking about relationships. Relationships, that's how you raise the 

[00:14:49] Mic: bar. . 

[00:14:51] DJ And?: Okay. Okay. So that's a lot of insight. God damn it. We should have been talking to him first. That's crazy. So we got visual [00:15:00] and verbal. Yeah. That's 

[00:15:02] R-Dotta: interesting. I, I can make graphics too though. Okay. But he's just, don't ask me to, you just gonna get glue and glitter.

[00:15:08] Mic: Yeah, . Sure. I work with a mouse every day. 

[00:15:12] DJ And?: Yeah, it's not that hand-eye coordination, 

[00:15:15] Mic: but you know what? Hand-eye coordination. Eventually that shit compounds and I've gotta sit there with some glue and a little bit of like gold leaf and sit there and make a stick shine.

[00:15:24] DJ And?: Hey, gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta make it 

[00:15:26] Morowa Mosai: work. And I write poetry too. Yeah. Oh, okay. 

All, 

[00:15:30] DJ And?: yeah. So they blend. They blend. So let's crossover. 

[00:15:33] Morowa Mosai: We 

[00:15:33] DJ And?: got a little crossover, right? Yeah. It's a little crossover. So this leads directly into the next question. Some believe that dating an artist is hard.

[00:15:41] DJ And?: They're unconventional and not interested in pleasing society's norms. Can you tell us some of the misconceptions that you face since you both are artists in your of course, own very distinct ways in a relationship. 

[00:15:57] Morowa Mosai: I'll go. So I would [00:16:00] say this is the easiest relationship I've ever been in. I'll be chilling, man.

[00:16:05] Morowa Mosai: What'd you say? I'll be chilling. . He do 

[00:16:07] Mic: be chilling. I didn't mean to hear that sound. Apologize. 

[00:16:11] DJ And?: I apologize. I apologize. I was trying to give y'all some hands Class. 

[00:16:16] Mic: It's to celebrate. Yeah, exactly. We're emotional and we talk about this shit. We try to express it some way we can express 

[00:16:22] DJ And?: it together.

[00:16:23] DJ And?: That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. That's what creative, that's what we want. That's what we want. There's what we want. . 

[00:16:30] Morowa Mosai: Okay. I didn't know if you would try to play No, I ain't gonna play you. I ain't gotta play. I'm sorry. No, you're good. So yeah, I would say this is the easiest relationship I've ever been in because I've always been a hustler.

[00:16:39] Morowa Mosai: Like in college I was working four jobs and then I decided to start my business. And I was still going to school full-time doing paint parties here and there, taking commissions. I would throw a Black History Month program annually, and so I was like a busy person in college. I was very involved on campus.

[00:16:55] Morowa Mosai: Like I, I led one dance team, was a part of another, was in another club [00:17:00] like I was doing a lot and . Everybody that I dated or talked to in college and even before, always was like intimidated by me. Like even people that I didn't get serious with, they were like, there's a word 

[00:17:13] DJ And?: for that. You doing a lot of shit.

[00:17:14] DJ And?: It is a word for real. 

[00:17:16] Morowa Mosai: Yeah. Like I was a busy person and it would, they would be, and instead of supporting me, like I had boyfriends that didn't even come to any of my shows, my art shows or events. Goddamn. And They'd be intimidated or either jealous, and then it turned into, okay, you're not doing this enough.

[00:17:30] Morowa Mosai: Or We don't ever spend time together. And I'm like, okay, but this is this is my business. I just never got any support from that. . And then because they weren't a creative, they didn't understand that hustle side of me. They didn't understand that boss side of me. They didn't have that drive and that passion like I had, so they couldn't understand me.

[00:17:46] Morowa Mosai: But with Rashad, he is also. He's that. Yes. Cause he does music. Yeah. But, and I do art, but it's like we speak the same language as just in a different dialect. Like we understand each other and [00:18:00] what we're saying. Like he'll play something on, he'll be working on a song or he'll write a verse or whatever and he'll spit it from me and I'll be like yeah, but do this a little bit or Yeah, I can see that.

[00:18:07] Morowa Mosai: And then vice versa I'll be working on some artwork I'll make a poster or something and he'll have his critique for me. And I don't know, it's. , the way we feel about our art separately is the same. Wow. But it's, we have our different art, like we feel used sometimes with what, because of our art, we feel hurt and pain because of our heart, our art.

[00:18:29] Morowa Mosai: We feel joint between each other 

[00:18:30] Mic: or between like people paying you to do 

[00:18:32] Morowa Mosai: the things just in our different fields, in our different worlds are hey, express 

[00:18:36] DJ And?: Yeah. I 

[00:18:36] Mic: mean, but that's part of the art thing is if you're doing. , it's definitely like pouring of yourself.

[00:18:42] Mic: It's 

[00:18:42] Morowa Mosai: a soul, it's a soul spiritual 

[00:18:44] DJ And?: experience. So whoever making 

[00:18:45] R-Dotta: money off of that. Yeah. 

[00:18:46] Morowa Mosai: Yeah. God confidence. But we can we understand, like I've never had a person that understood that side of me, understand. Could speak that language with me. Yep. And be like, we feed each other in that way.

[00:18:59] Morowa Mosai: So [00:19:00] he's not I'm, I just got, I'm a powerful woman and that's just what I know and believe about. and man, that's so dope. Go ahead, y'all. And I've, I heard earlier y'all were talking about do you believe that a man should be leader of the relationship or head of the household? I grew up, sorry. So I have a, I might have a different perspective.

[00:19:21] Morowa Mosai: I, I grew up, in church, I'm a pk. Y'all, I'm a pk. Oh. I want them pks. But I might have, I'm, I have some different views about the church today. I've always, I've always seen that a man was the head of the household and it was always taught to me a certain way. You mentioned that like it's focusing on what the woman needs to do when a woman needs to submit and this, that and the other.

[00:19:39] Morowa Mosai: I've never understood those verses to mean that wait. Go. Yeah. Yeah. Go 

[00:19:44] Mic: ahead. Go ahead. 

[00:19:44] DJ And?: Continue. First, 

[00:19:44] Morowa Mosai: continue. Finish that point. . I've never understood it to be that way. I believe in order for, okay, so I'm gonna get a little biblical. The scripture says, women mans, what is it? Love your wife is love you, love your 

[00:19:57] R-Dotta: wife.

[00:19:57] R-Dotta: The way that Jesus, love the 

[00:19:58] Morowa Mosai: church. Love the church. [00:20:00] Yes. Jesus died for the church. True. He dedicated his life for the church. Okay? , when we're talking about submission, it is not a power over or lording over of anybody. Submission is mutual submission in the same breath that it's saying women submitted unto your husband's?

[00:20:17] Morowa Mosai: It's saying, husbands submit unto your wives. It does. It's a partnership. It's equal. Read the two verses before that cross down. Yep, sure is. And so I've always felt like. I before me and Rashad got back together, cuz like he said, we dated for two weeks and then it was just years of me and just terrible relationships.

[00:20:36] Morowa Mosai: I went through the mud I was chilling. He was chilling. , he was chilling. But I appreciated him. Like I, it was better when we got back together, but, No one could approach me with anything that I didn't already have. I didn't want anyone's money. I made my own money. I didn't, there was nothing you had that I couldn't get for myself.

[00:20:53] Morowa Mosai: True. And so when men approached me, especially even older men, they were like, oh, I can bring so much to you. I can, [00:21:00] we can be a power couple. We can do this. I'm like, no, I'm good. But how can you add to my life? Because you're stressing me out. I don't need to deal with this. Hold on, 

[00:21:07] Mic: hold on. Wait.

[00:21:08] Mic: Pause for a sec. Fellas. In the audience, have y'all ever had a woman come up to you and tell you what she can add to your career and your life? And is it a thing that happened? It never happened to me. 

[00:21:20] DJ And?: He said, nah, this brother right here says nah. 

[00:21:23] Mic: Nah, I ain't never, 

[00:21:24] Morowa Mosai: and am I the only woman who's had a man come to them like, yeah, we can do this together and I could bring this to you.

[00:21:30] Morowa Mosai: When I got, I 

[00:21:31] DJ And?: got, nah, she the only one. Sorry, I ahead. Quick poll. Quick poll surveys. There's a word for that. 

[00:21:40] R-Dotta: speed. It's your 

[00:21:41] Mic: favorite word. . Bitches. . God, it's a great word. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 

[00:21:48] R-Dotta: And I don't call, I don't call women that. I just only call 

[00:21:51] Morowa Mosai: guys every, you really only use it for 

[00:21:52] R-Dotta: men. 

[00:21:53] DJ And?: Way more.

[00:21:54] DJ And?: There you go. Yo, that's actually good. Good ass point. God damn. That's a good ass point. I'm gonna take that. I [00:22:00] like that . God damn. I like. All. All right, so I have a question before, before you jump bad. My bad did. I'll talk all day. So she will, did you all dating for two weeks, leaving and then coming back?

[00:22:11] DJ And?: Coming back together, did that strengthen you all's resolve in the second attempt because you, you had the chance to be together once and then you all had a chance to be a part, see other people, et cetera, whatever you wanted to do when you all came. Did it strengthen your resolve to say, Hey, we're gonna make this relationship work?

[00:22:28] DJ And?: I think we are meant to be together. Yeah. 

[00:22:30] R-Dotta: Cause it was stupid, man. So what was that? We, it was a 2016 or something like that. . And in between that time until 20 19, we'd still like, sees yelling, not dating, but like, let's we get in contact some kind of way. Yeah. Not that it was ever anything physical or anything.

[00:22:49] R-Dotta: Nothing like that. But we just get in contact some kind of way. It was a point in time where we talked again for a week and then, I ghosted her, I did . Oh lord Jesus. You know what I'm [00:23:00] saying? But the last time in 2019 it was just like, Hey, let's just be real with each other.

[00:23:03] R-Dotta: Man, like 

[00:23:05] DJ And?: rights when you Yeah. When you know. Yeah. I think it's a common maturity. 

[00:23:09] Mic: This is lightning will come outta fucking space and get you in that fucking head. And you, that's 

[00:23:14] Morowa Mosai: literally what happened, right? 

[00:23:16] Mic: And you spend like a few weeks being like, nah, that's bullshit. That's fucking bullshit.

[00:23:21] Mic: Not like that tele bite. That's 

[00:23:23] DJ And?: not the 

[00:23:23] R-Dotta: one. Hello? No. Cause she's like half Caribbean, right? She's half Caribbean, so I, 

[00:23:30] Mic: I went at a school, OK girl. Oh, hi, Lord Jesus. What does happened? , 

[00:23:35] DJ And?: I look 

[00:23:36] R-Dotta: girls. Ok. I went at a school and like the supervisor, the janitors is like half Haitian, half Jamaican. I said, yo man she, she from the West Indies or whatever.

[00:23:44] R-Dotta: I see that she put a root on me or something. Good quick. 

[00:23:48] DJ And?: No. That's what happened with my wife. I try to avoid her. I try to leave her the, 

[00:23:52] Mic: I try to not go to parties that she, shit. It's avoid with a ru an 

[00:23:56] DJ And?: some food she made, it was over. This is first. Yeah. 

[00:23:59] R-Dotta: I don't, [00:24:00] the spaghetti never don't the red 

[00:24:03] DJ And?: rice shit.

[00:24:03] DJ And?: But I mean it be good sometimes though, that's how 

[00:24:06] Mic: we know that we are not supposed to be solo individuals in existence. Facts. 

[00:24:11] DJ And?: Yeah. Like 

[00:24:12] Mic: whatever you believe about dualism non. Sorry, I ain't gonna go too far down a rabbit hole right now. Tune podcast, but I see where you're coming from. Tune into podcast , 

[00:24:23] DJ And?: but by the way yes.

[00:24:24] DJ And?: But, 

[00:24:24] Mic: but continue, y'all. Right? Right? You're not intended to be solo individuals. The interaction that happens between us, the Speak Hunter interaction that happens between yes. The idea of nurturing and the idea of fucking I can change the 

[00:24:35] DJ And?: world. Yeah. Like that shit, that 

[00:24:38] Mic: point. And whether who holds, what parts of that puzzle piece is irrelevant.

[00:24:44] Mic: Yep. There are interactions that happen between people. 

[00:24:48] DJ And?: That's true. Hey. I want, yeah, I want to do this real quick when I have a chance. Cause I see my man did it earlier. It was the dopest thing I seen. Yo, could I get from the bar 

[00:24:55] Mic: Man? I have another white tie. 

[00:24:57] DJ And?: That's dope. I ain't never did that in my life.

[00:24:59] DJ And?: I just had to do, get [00:25:00] that out there. Bucket list. Bucket list y'all. Bucket list 

[00:25:01] R-Dotta: curiosity. 

[00:25:02] Mic: Kevin, do not edit this outta this one. Fucking Kevin, mess 

[00:25:07] DJ And?: Columbia in front of. It's legal y'all. It's legal y'all. It's. Legal, we ain't outside. Curiosity. Coffee, 

[00:25:15] R-Dotta: the main street. Say it again. Columbia, South Carolina.

[00:25:18] R-Dotta: Curity. There we go. Curiosity. Coffee 

[00:25:20] DJ And?: bar. 

[00:25:21] Mic: Coffee expert. We need to do one of these down at the dispensary in Charleston. Yeah, 

[00:25:26] DJ And?: that's something else. We'll talk about that later. That'll be however . Yo. And y'all could yo, that'll be dope. That'd be extra dope. Again, as creatives, I know it's almost like a genius mindset where you have this situation where you're in a relationship.

[00:25:42] DJ And?: You also need your own time to build, relax, restore yourself so that you can be creative and a child in the mix. Yeah. Oh my lord, that makes it even more difficult. This is what my fellow podcasters are dealing with. 

[00:25:57] Mic: My house is 900 square feet. Figure that shit out. [00:26:00] God damn. Three dogs. Oh wow. Two adults.

[00:26:04] Mic: A child might or. Not be also in film. 

[00:26:09] DJ And?: Yes. . . It depends on what's going on. , this is a strong question, and of course you got a chance to read this, but do you need time away from each other to create Yes. Yeah. Speak on it. Do 

[00:26:21] Morowa Mosai: you have a studio? Yeah, I have my art studio. Yeah. And offsite or in the same space?

[00:26:25] Morowa Mosai: Listen, now with my residency, it's across the parking lot from. Fuck Real 

[00:26:30] Mic: i's right. 

[00:26:31] DJ And?: Hookup Hall, if you hear me. 

[00:26:34] Morowa Mosai: All right. But yeah, someone asked us if we ever collaborated. We haven't. And we were surprised to hear our own answer to that because makes sense at this point, right?

[00:26:42] Morowa Mosai: . It's because when we create separately, like we create in our own spaces. , I don't know. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing, but our No, it's beautiful. Our creation, it's beautiful. It's your process. It's our one soul. When I'm doing my art, I'm pouring my heart out.

[00:26:56] Morowa Mosai: But the thing is we do it separately, but we can also be [00:27:00] in the same space. But separate. 

[00:27:01] Mic: Right. Because the input. Merging, but you The filter of the thing that hits that 

[00:27:06] Morowa Mosai: camera. Yeah. And the thing is I'm happy to be painting and whatever are creating and he'll be next to me like playing video games or doing whatever and vice versa.

[00:27:15] Morowa Mosai: Like he'll be working on his like raps or writing some verses listening to beats and I'll be like watching TV or cooking something. We're never like, we can't create at the same time. 

[00:27:24] R-Dotta: Nah, serious created, that's interesting. Environment would be. At the same 

[00:27:29] Mic: time is a whole nother man. That's a energy 

[00:27:31] DJ And?: vortex.

[00:27:32] DJ And?: Like y'all probably bear in the building now. God damn skills involved in doing that. Like 

[00:27:36] R-Dotta: be like gobo. She's saying while she's doing something, I'm playing the game or whatever. But that's a part of my creative process cuz while I'm playing I'm probably, that's how you're relaxing. Cause I don't actually write my rap side.

[00:27:46] R-Dotta: I'm just thinking in my head, 

[00:27:49] DJ And?: but I can't. 

[00:27:50] R-Dotta: Bravo. It just come, it comes in waves. Like I can't just sit around with her while she's painting and I'm just, yeah, I think I'm gonna work. Listen to this beat and just start. I can't do it. It doesn't, [00:28:00] it's 

[00:28:01] DJ And?: not my So you can't force the creation, that's what you're saying.

[00:28:05] DJ And?: Wait, I can 

[00:28:05] R-Dotta: force it, but it has to be. . It just has to feel right yeah. I don't know. No. Yeah. I can't 

[00:28:11] DJ And?: explain it. Nah it's like physical space, right? 

[00:28:14] Mic: Yeah. But it has to be your time to do it. 

[00:28:17] R-Dotta: Not her time to do it. Because it could be like a lot of noise or whatever going on.

[00:28:20] R-Dotta: I still could come up with something. I 

[00:28:22] Mic: can totally see that though. Like that's the way it happens when you like, like when it comes on you I look 

[00:28:28] DJ And?: at 

[00:28:28] Morowa Mosai: a spiritual thing. It is. It's a spiritual thing. It's like I just. Yeah. It ain't, it out. Ain't got nothing to do with it. It's the thing come to when he got going on.

[00:28:37] Morowa Mosai: It ain't got nothing to do with me. That's like between him and his creativity and whatever is guiding him to whatever he's creating. And I feel the same way. It's like he can't, it's, he's not a part of that. It's me and my craft. And you all 

[00:28:47] DJ And?: allow each other's space and room for that.

[00:28:50] R-Dotta: Yeah. I'm not much of a talker. Yeah. Alice, I'm a talker. Alice is a talker in person. Yeah. We don't really talk to each other throughout the day. This is only when we're [00:29:00] in person for the most part. 

[00:29:01] DJ And?: Yeah. We like, so this is dope. 

[00:29:02] R-Dotta: I'm on bad text if you've dmd me recently. I'm sorry. I probably won't answer you again for another week,

[00:29:08] R-Dotta: You know what I'm saying? She doesn't really text back. We don't like talking on the phone 

[00:29:12] DJ And?: too much. It's so like 

[00:29:14] Mic: your day to day. Are you working? like work immediately? Are you sitting there like working on things immediately or, I just like, as soon as I, as soon as I expanding the brain first and 

[00:29:25] R-Dotta: yeah, as soon as I wake up it's usually something in my head.

[00:29:27] R-Dotta: Whether it is a old rap or I'm trying to, I can come up with something new if I want to, but it doesn't feel right. A lot of times coming up with something new until the old one comes out. Cuz it might sound crazy, but I have a song right now. that I haven't released yet. And when people aren't playing it, granted the song isn't out, people aren't playing it.

[00:29:46] R-Dotta: And a part of me like, yo, why the fuck y'all not playing my music? It's not 

[00:29:50] DJ And?: out . 

[00:29:51] Mic: Oh, I see. Yeah. So like the interaction that you doing back and forth is with the crowd and so you can't Yeah. Say the next line until 

[00:29:59] DJ And?: [00:30:00] They know song 

[00:30:00] R-Dotta: back. Yeah. But I in my head sense, it's like I, I feel like people should know the new song and they.

[00:30:06] R-Dotta: But it really is because I haven't put it out. So my day-to-day is waking up. I gotta figure out how to drop this song, why people ain't listening to this. Oh yeah, it's not out. Yep. Yeah, just keep a circle and, all right, gotta keep building something else in order for this song to come out, 

[00:30:21] DJ And?: So 

[00:30:21] Mic: your day-to-day is like the logistics of actually producing and then when you find yourself in a space where I'm like, I need to do this thing, then you make that space exist. Within. 

[00:30:32] R-Dotta: That's interesting. When it comes, whenever I go record music, like I might record a whole project, I recorded a whole project in a day. , if the song comes out two weeks later, the project comes out two weeks later.

[00:30:42] R-Dotta: Yeah. I don't, I can't hold on to it. 

[00:30:44] DJ And?: So you have to make sure you deliver that. You know what, it sounds it kinda sounds like it's your thing. It's like how the book of Revelation. , my man. Just basically three fucking thing that has ever put it out, 

[00:30:54] Mic: mattered. Ever put it out.

[00:30:55] Mic: That's why we listen to live recordings is cuz you can't reproduce that [00:31:00] fucking shit again. That's true. And not, you can't go in the studio 

[00:31:03] DJ And?: True. And be like, yep. That's why we like Young 

[00:31:06] R-Dotta: Thug and I don't listen to the song. I put it out. I don't like it after I listen to it, but I have to clear my brain and create something.

[00:31:13] DJ And?: That's dope. I like how 

[00:31:14] Morowa Mosai: you explain it. I feel the same way about my artwork too. Yeah. It's like when it's like when it hits me, it's like I will go into my studio, I'll paint for hours, I won't eat right. I won't stop. Yeah. I'm just painting and then all of a sudden the day is gone and I'm like, I gotta go to the bathroom and I'm starving.

[00:31:27] Morowa Mosai: And I'm like, oh. And this. Thing that you're a conduit, right? It, yes. That muse hits you smacks it. And panting is sitting in front of me and I'm just like, how did it get there? How did I do that? Who did that? But isn't that 

[00:31:37] DJ And?: the 

[00:31:38] Morowa Mosai: amazing part of it? She happened The fuck. And then I'm like, I hate it.

[00:31:41] Morowa Mosai: Oh 

[00:31:41] Mic: Lord. 

[00:31:42] R-Dotta: Seriously. I don't like my songs after I, I record. 

[00:31:46] Mic: Damn. Absolutely. Dang. Nothing I have ever done. Have I ever liked, like anything I do creatively, like I. Is this good? Is it not good? Fuck you for 

[00:31:55] DJ And?: liking it, . Even though it's your 

[00:31:58] Mic: baby, you are. [00:32:00] Oh, it's my baby. Shit. I don't like it. What I hate about this, 

[00:32:06] DJ And?: it's your baby.

[00:32:07] DJ And?: It goes back to the. 

[00:32:09] Mic: Baby. It's our baby. It's . It dominated my brain and I couldn't fucking breathe until it Oh, Jesus. 

[00:32:19] DJ And?: That's a good point. That's good. 

[00:32:21] Morowa Mosai: That sounds like a baby. 

[00:32:25] DJ And?: I have 

[00:32:25] Mic: made art when I was in love, and it did not feel like that. Wow. But most of my interaction with art has been. There's a thing that I have to birth.

[00:32:33] Mic: You just, and I didn't make it. 

[00:32:35] DJ And?: I didn't decide to do this. It came, I told you it's just go out. This 

[00:32:40] Mic: is what I got. 

[00:32:42] DJ And?: Here we go. And here it is, . 

[00:32:43] R-Dotta: That's why I said I believe it's a spiritual thing. Yeah, I don't, we talked about God, so I'm assuming that Go ahead. Yeah.

[00:32:49] R-Dotta: You free all day, brother. It's all about talents and gift don't levels. . I think you could get good at something, but a gift and a talent. obvious to people like, I'm, [00:33:00] I don't practice, I didn't necessarily have to practice football to be good at it. I was just, it was a talent for me. I didn't necessarily have to practice rap to be good.

[00:33:07] R-Dotta: It was a talent, it was a gift for me. 

[00:33:08] DJ And?: Yeah. It's just utilizing it. 

[00:33:10] R-Dotta: So when we go and create something, and I don't, I'll pray before I, come up with music or whatever, no matter how songs, I know I use a lot of profanity or whatever, but I say, is God giving me this? Yeah. 

[00:33:20] DJ And?: Then

[00:33:23] DJ And?: look, I'm gonna say, In the Bible. Don't let me start. Murders, wars, children, beings. Yeah. It is wild. So I feel where you're coming from creation. 

[00:33:33] Mic: I'm not gonna use the King James to justifying my reality. I'm sorry 

[00:33:38] R-Dotta: I say that to say this. I believe it's God using you. Yes. And we're only humans. That's it. So whenever we put this out, we don't like it because it wasn't us putting it together.

[00:33:49] R-Dotta: We don't, what's it called? Al you have Al 

[00:33:51] DJ And?: Vision. Yeah. Yeah. Darren, that's a good, that's a good point. That wasn't you doing it, it was working through you. I can't, there, there's 

[00:33:58] R-Dotta: no way I could have thought about [00:34:00] some of the things I said. You're being 

[00:34:01] DJ And?: used. I don't even, I have a, all right.

[00:34:03] DJ And?: There's two things I wanna touch on before we finish. We're running low on time, but very quickly, I want y'all to touch on this because this is something that we always touch on with our podcast and with a new endeavor that we're working on, which is create is support . So that's an artist. We'll 

[00:34:21] Mic: do this and then we'll do a shout out for, yeah, we gotta do this.

[00:34:23] Mic: I just realized that we were actually in front of people again, and I felt like I needed. 

[00:34:29] DJ And?: Promote. Yes, we must promote. You must promote. So as an artist, gaining support from the community, friends and family is common. But how do you guys show up for each other and what does that look like for you all?

[00:34:42] DJ And?: Are there times when you cannot make it to an important event with each for each other? And how do you overcome those obstacles? I want to touch on this for about a minute, for both of you all, and then we'll get ready to wrap up. 

[00:34:52] R-Dotta: Ask that one more. 

[00:34:53] DJ And?: So like the support that, you get support from the community pool, right?

[00:34:58] DJ And?: Yeah. But for each other, since you [00:35:00] are each are creatives, how do you all deal with the inability? Some at sometimes to support each other? I e I can't make it to Mar's gallery opening today, or, Hey, I can't make it a r dotted show tonight. How do you all deal with that? I spent all 

[00:35:13] Mic: of my fucking mental energy dealing with the shit that I was fucking with today.

[00:35:19] DJ And?: and he can't wait. And I ain't got shit for you. I'm sorry. 

[00:35:21] R-Dotta: I just try to support another. If I can't be there physically, I'll just support it in a different way. Like I said earlier, me and an artist is you go through ups and downs of confidence. . So if it's like whether me posting something of hers on my story or whatever, even if I don't post myself, or I can, like I said, I can't be there physically and I notice her confidence level might not be where it needs to be at.

[00:35:41] R-Dotta: Might give her a little, pep talk we like, nah. Like man, fuck these. You the best out stop compar. Don't need to compare yourself to other people because who gives a fuck? Excellent. 

[00:35:54] DJ And?: Excellent. I like that answer. Wait, I like that answer. Long been 

[00:35:56] R-Dotta: together. Three years. Wow. 

[00:35:58] DJ And?: Plus 

[00:35:59] Mic: two weeks. . [00:36:00] Two weeks plus two weeks.

[00:36:02] Mic: There's there, there's always a fucking no space in between. Yeah. Ain't give that space. Me and my wife talk about it all the time yeah.

[00:36:14] Mic: Until I was like, wait a damn minute. 

[00:36:16] DJ And?: This is official. Wait a damn minute. . This is real. Receipts real to me. Is it real to you? What's up with you? You don't wanna be the first one to jump the, it's OK to jump in. You, 

[00:36:30] Mic: you love me, 

[00:36:31] DJ And?: love. No. But 

[00:36:31] R-Dotta: there's 

[00:36:32] Mic: things happen in my chest cavity that is not the same as what the other people.

[00:36:37] DJ And?: I have feelings. My heart is beating. Nah. So for you, I said it first, it 

[00:36:41] R-Dotta: was eight years ago. Me, I said very tough about it. And I was like, Hey, I love you. 

[00:36:45] Mic: Aww, . Aw, that's 

[00:36:48] DJ And?: what, so Miss Morro, for you, how do you deal with not being able to show up to some of his events? 

[00:36:53] Morowa Mosai: in the same way.

[00:36:54] Morowa Mosai: If we can't be there physically, we show up for each other emotionally. And so in the same way he [00:37:00] supports me and builds up my confidence, like he's there for me in the way that I need him to be. Gotcha. And I can be there for him in the way that he needs. So I'm strong in the emotion department, right?

[00:37:11] Morowa Mosai: . And that's where I can show up for him. What's your son? I'm a cancer. Me 

[00:37:15] DJ And?: too . That makes sense. Don't it? Don't it. Don't it. What? What's 

[00:37:20] R-Dotta: your sound, bro? I'm 

[00:37:21] DJ And?: Aquarius. Oh, wow. I'm an aquarium at 

[00:37:23] Mic: Moon. My wife is an Aquarius. 

[00:37:26] DJ And?: Shut the front door. All know it is. When I 

[00:37:29] Mic: wake up in the morning, my existence is y'all together.

[00:37:33] Mic: In my brain. , . It'll take it. 

[00:37:37] DJ And?: Just, we'll take it. before we wrap up. , of course, we usually like to ask about work life balance, right? I'm gonna scratch that tonight. Okay. What I want to do is I wanna give you time to do some shameless promotion. Okay. If you can let our audience know what you got going on, what you got going, coming out with you, and if you can drop those handles for them so they can know how to get in contact with.[00:38:00] 

[00:38:00] DJ And?: All right, go ahead, . 

[00:38:02] Morowa Mosai: So you guys can check out my Instagram, my website, my TikTok, my Twitter. Don't bother me on Twitter. Nobody cares about me on Twitter. Don't even go there. It's, I don't have anything to say. Does Twitter still exist? 

[00:38:15] Mic: Twitter, the time this episode. Is Twitter his 

[00:38:18] Morowa Mosai: favorite place?

[00:38:18] Mic: Possibly. It's his. He just blocked everybody to talks shit about him. So you might as well just 

[00:38:25] DJ And?: Elon Musk be, yeah. Let's just gonna wrap this up. Always tell 

[00:38:28] Mic: us to talk trash about 

[00:38:29] DJ And?: Elon Musk. Yeah, I have to wrap this. Sorry. That's crazy. That may not work. South Africa. 

[00:38:34] Mic: South Africa. 

[00:38:34] Morowa Mosai: I got my artwork.

[00:38:35] Morowa Mosai: Some of my artwork back there. I'm a graphic designer fine artist. If you wanna see some of my fine artwork, go ahead and hit up my website. That Morro, it's on that little sign back there. . That's my Instagram. That's everything. It's all the same. I got some Christmas wrapping paper and some Christmas cards that I made.

[00:38:50] Morowa Mosai: Black girl Christmas, y'all. And I'll be opening up bookings for paint parties next year. I got all kinds of crap on my website that I'm doing, and I got my artist residency [00:39:00] going on currently, and there's some more projects to come in the future. Can you give that website one more time? Yeah, that's M O R O w A m o s a.com.

[00:39:11] DJ And?: Excellent. Because this will be on audio, so we wanna make sure 

[00:39:13] Mic: I forgot, just in case you thought you had too much going on in December. 

[00:39:20] DJ And?: What? You got her shit? Yep. Oh 

[00:39:23] Morowa Mosai: yeah. I've been doing markets three days a weekend. That 

[00:39:27] DJ And?: is, God darn it. That is, damn I almost forgot about that. Yep. Almost forgot.

[00:39:32] Mic: That was a lot of fucking connections. 

[00:39:34] DJ And?: Yep. A lot a Okay now for Mr. Ada. No, it's going. Yeah. 

[00:39:39] R-Dotta: Rada 8 43 on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook. YouTube, R D O T a 8 43. Y'all, you guys mentioned Call Me Doctor. Came out in 2019. I also have, I don't have rivals that came out this past September. What's the other project?

[00:39:56] R-Dotta: I've been dropping like a lot of projects this year. 2025. A hell of an [00:40:00] Angels out all streaming platforms, 2020 files caught and I don't have RS on all streaming platform. Next year I'm dropping majority singles. Be on the lookout for She's no angel and calling off Bluff. Hey, it must be a fire.

[00:40:15] R-Dotta: Yeah. Oh, it's, oh, for sure. What else we got going on? January 7th, I'll be Royal American for the rapper of the year. All the nominees got put on the show. And yeah, man. Be on the lookout man. Again call me dot.com. C a l m e d o t t.com. Keep up, but you could probably catch me more on Instagram and Twitter.

[00:40:39] DJ And?: Excellent, excellent way to rap. And man, I just wanna thank everybody for joining us here today for these podcasts here, curiosity Coffee Bar. Everything was dope today. I appreciate you all's hospitality. Y'all the best. Make sure you tip 'em today. I'm gonna go right there and drop me a nice little tip for y'all.

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[00:41:14] DJ And?: Leave out here with some peace in your mind and we'll see you on the next one. Peace, 

[00:41:19] Mic: I'll, that's not a word, .