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Father's Day Special | Just The Two of Us | Episode #73
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THG interviews two amazing dads on the importance of fatherhood and some of the lessons they've learned along the way. Join Skip as he interviews Shawn7 aka Geda Lion (co-host of the Boss Effect Podcast) and music producer Pete Reed aka Beatman Pete on the challenges and joys fatherhood had allowed them to experience.
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The Hilltop Glove Podcast | Father's Day
[00:00:00] Skip: Hello everybody. Welcome to this special episode of the Hilltop Glove Podcast. As this is our Father's Day episode. This is like probably what my, my favorite episode to record, just because this is a lot of reason why we started the podcast in the first place. Honestly last year we weren't unable to do it cause of Covid.
[00:00:16] Skip: On my behalf, but we wanted to bring it back for 2023. But I want to go ahead and introduce everyone to my two amazing guests that I have here today. First guest is Sean. It goes by name, Sean seven. And then I have Pete Reed. And I just wanna let them just introduce themselves and just let us, give us a little bit about your background, what you do.
[00:00:35] Shawn7: First of all, I'm Shawn seven aka gda Lion. I want to give a shout out to the Hilltop Glove for having your boy on the podcast. Thanks. And I am one half of the Boss Effect podcast that you can check out on all streaming platforms. I host that with my wife, and that's called Boss Effect, which stands for bold, outspoken, soulful storytellers.
[00:00:56] Skip: Excellent.
[00:00:57] Pete: Pete Reed, a k a beat man. [00:01:00] Pete. I make music engineer, produce, sing a little bit here and there. Coach AAU basketball. And full-time dad, man. Full time dad.
[00:01:10] Skip: Yes. And I'm glad you mentioned that. The great thing about this one is, like this episode is we're all full-time dads here.
[00:01:16] Skip: Yes. Some of us were more experienced than others. Now I'm about two and a half years into the game. I know Pete you're about four right now, right? Yep. So you've been, you've been at it for a
while.
[00:01:28] Shawn7: My oldest son is 30 years old. Ooh. Yes. Awesome. My oldest is 30 and my youngest is 16.
[00:01:36] Skip: Okay. Cool. Cool.
[00:01:38] Skip: And as a matter of fact, I was actually actually shot your 16 year old Sweet 16 party as well. Oh yeah. Yeah you did. Yep. That was really dope. That was a lot of fun. That's baby girl. I guess we'll go ahead and just get started. So one of the things is, I know we prepared some questions and some things to talk about, but of course we go off track with it cause I got feelings.
[00:01:55] Skip: This is gonna be a really dope conversation, but I would like to know what's one thing you think you [00:02:00] would've done differently? As a parent, just from your experiences so far.
[00:02:05] Shawn7: One thing I would've done differently, I'm glad you asked that question. I was thinking about it when I saw that question come up.
[00:02:10] Shawn7: Nothing man. I wouldn't have done nothing different. Reason why is because if I would've done anything different, I would've missed that experience in that journey. Yeah. So I'm glad to have all the experiences that I've had the opportunity to have with all my kids. So it's nothing I would've changed or wish I would've learned nothing.
[00:02:25] Shawn7: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:02:26] Pete: I, I can agree with him. Totally. That sounds like you know the answer from a great father one that's there, I can see how a lot of people would try to couldn't answer that the same, but I, I, I couldn't agree with him. I don't think I would've did things. I, I'd have to think about it too long, but I'm enjoying the, I'm enjoying the experience, man.
[00:02:43] Pete: It's like I'm learning from her as well
[00:02:45] Skip: yeah. And I think with me, I, I agree with you guys on that especially from the fact that. Growing up, like I grew up in the house, it was nothing but boys. So I was the oldest of three. I was the oldest of three, but my dad got married around the [00:03:00] time I was like eight or nine, and then she had three sons.
[00:03:03] Skip: And so with me, my first child being a daughter, it's like I didn't. I know, I know like you said, they say a lot of things about kids are similar, but it is a difference. And I guess you'd probably know more about this than us, Sean. It seems there's a difference sometimes when it seems to raise them, like boys versus girls.
[00:03:18] Shawn7: It is a difference, man. It's, it's, it's a difference between the boys and the girls. But mostly man, it's the difference for me because it was a big age gap. Yeah. Like I said, my oldest is 30. Mm-hmm. And then right after him is my oldest daughter, which is Erica is 24, 25. Yeah. And then my son 17, and then my daughter, the last daughter, she's 16. So it's like a huge age gap. But it was a, it was a great thing because I got the experience with my 30 year old. Yeah. What I'm now experiencing with my 18 year old son. Yeah. So I was already ahead of the game and ready for him. Oh.
[00:03:49] Skip: Mm, interesting. Interesting. I can't hear anything.
[00:03:52] Skip: Yeah, I think that's one of the things that I'm looking forward. Not saying that I wanna rush time. Yeah. But it's, it's neat to be, it would be neat to see what will happen, like fast [00:04:00] forward, yeah, what's my daughter gonna be like at 13? Like wish she could be like at 18.
[00:04:04] Skip: And cuz it's and I guess especially from a guys that our perspective, especially if you haven't grown up in a house with women, it's okay, when I was out here and I was. That age, what were, what were the women like at, that interacted at that age? Like how did they get to that point?
[00:04:18] Skip: Like personality wise, what are some of the things that motive, grow, like being raised where they were raised at. Mm-hmm. How do they end up with this type of attitude or just have personality not, not a negative thing, right? But it's just you don't really realize that. Especially until like you have your you, like you're raising a daughter and it's I, I sit back and I always look at my daughter and I'm like, man, I just know she's gonna be a lot of work for somebody cause she's high maintenance for me now.
[00:04:43] Skip: I'm telling man. Oh man. And I think one of the funniest things is, and I know Pete could definitely attest to it, so my daughter, she is a huge talker. My daughter's a huge talker. She loves to talk. I know my wife and I, we talk about this a lot, so we were both talkers [00:05:00] too.
[00:05:00] Skip: So it's funny that, of course now, you know we got a daughter that does the same, but it's different when you're doing it as a child versus you're the parent and you're hearing that all day and you're talking Yeah. And then it's sometimes I'll just be at, we'll just be at the house and my daughter will be like, daddy can you talk to me?
[00:05:15] Skip: I want to talk. And I'm like, wow. Like she wants to talk. She'll just, and she'll like I did this, I did that. and then she'll talk about what she saw in cartoons. You went to the potty. Like right now she talked,
[00:05:26] Shawn7: I'm saying embrace. Embrace those moments right there, man. Cuz I'm gonna tell you the biggest thing is when you have.
[00:05:33] Shawn7: When you, your kids is a talker, but imagine if that child stops talking to you. Oh yeah. Now that's going, that's really gonna really mess with you. So right now it might be annoying, you know that child, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. But embrace those moments. Cause when that daddy, daddy stops, she gonna be like, oh man, I'm wondering what she's doing.
[00:05:49] Shawn7: She ain't hollered at me in a while. She ain't talking. So embrace those moments, man. Tell him, embrace them.
[00:05:53] Pete: I, I definitely heard that a couple of times the last four years and. It's been crazy. Cause [00:06:00] like I know, having older children, like every year like switches, like their mind goes from this to that to that.
[00:06:06] Pete: And I'm like, I'm looking at it all man, this is so amazing and I don't want get, you know what I'm mean? But at the same time, you gotta guide it. So it's just not this, but it is real crazy to me, man. And I, I, I enjoy every bit of it, man. I enjoy it all,
[00:06:21] Skip: man. Yes, sir. And I think one of the things I wish people would've told me, early on, They're not necessarily doing it differently, but I didn't realize how much kids switch up their interests.
[00:06:33] Skip: Even being so young, so for example, like I remember when Savannah really got to the age where she was getting like developing like things she enjoyed, like watching like TV shows and programs. Mm-hmm. She used to be really into blue. That's what she's like, bluey this, bluey that, blah, blah, blah, and try to advertise Bluey.
[00:06:51] Skip: But that was her thing. Yeah. And then it's a couple weeks later, like she didn't want nothing to do with Bluey. She was on to the next day. And I think at the time, I think the next thing [00:07:00] was like bat wheel. So she was on Bat Wheels and after that it was Superman. Then all of a sudden she was watching, Pinkalicious or something, but it was just all over the place. And it's and you talking to other parents and it's like they'll tell you like, oh yeah, they do that. I'm like, I wish I would've told this cause you be investing all this stuff and buying this gear.
[00:07:16] Pete: I'm just about to say that.
[00:07:17] Pete: It's about the buying for me. It's I'll be buying things, daddy. I don't like this anymore. I like this stuff. Thank you. After I just spent this money on this right here. Thank you very much,
[00:07:30] Shawn7: man. The beautiful thing about the children though, man, they, they show you what we're missing as an adult. And what I mean by that is the imagination, right? Kids have big imaginations, and when we lose that as dope, we start focusing on the, the bills on love and all this and our family life and this and this and this, that we forget.
[00:07:51] Shawn7: Our imagination, man. Our imagination growing up was huge and big and we was ready to do so much beautiful things. Yeah. These kids' imagination, they, they minds [00:08:00] list runs wild. So it's on us to just sit back and just watch it, man. It just, it's beautiful man. It's a beautiful thing to watch. Just, just don't let 'em cut it off, man.
[00:08:08] Shawn7: That's the thing we gotta show 'em. Don't never cut that imagination off, man. Because that's what's gonna take you far.
[00:08:13] Pete: I can agree. And I, I can just say something on that, man. The other day I was getting hurt from, after I got off of work and just did 12 and a half hours. So I'm tired. She's run daddy.
[00:08:25] Pete: I'm like, baby, I'm tired. Use your imagination.
[00:08:34] Shawn7: How do you answer
[00:08:34] Pete: that? So I'm running now so now I'm running. No, I'm running. I'm like, goodness gracious, I can't let her down. Cuz then she won't be able to believe in her imagination. Okay, we're running, we're running
[00:08:47] Shawn7: that
[00:08:47] Skip: part. I think the biggest thing for me, especially when it comes to imagination, is they expect you to have be at that same level.
[00:08:56] Skip: And to think about, to really be engaged with them, especially in the way to [00:09:00] where they're gonna remember and enjoy it, you gotta play into it. And that's what I've learned. So especially like with that role player, this morning, Savannah came in into the kitchen. And when she came into the kitchen, she, she had a doll baby with her, so she, so we name her doll babies.
[00:09:14] Skip: So every like doll baby, she got, we need names, so that'll be like, so one of 'em named is Corn Wallace, the other doll, baby named Bunny. Just random names like Keisha, just random stuff and just like whatever the dog looks like, that's what we name. They homie me. Just random names. Jamal, but, so it's obviously I know a lot of their names and so she brought Bunny into the kitchen while I was cooking this morning, and when she brought her in there, she was like, daddy Bunny's hungry.
[00:09:42] Skip: Bunny wants, something to eat, bunny wants something to drink. I was like, okay. And I tried to play with her, just grab a little one of her cups and hand it to her. Mm-hmm. Couldn't do that. Yeah. I actually had to pan mine. turn on the water. You better go along with it.
[00:09:56] Skip: Put the water to the side and I wish somebody would've told me I had to do all that [00:10:00] and then hand it to her. Then I was like, oh yeah, this is that special magic water, right? This is, this is just for bunny. And then when I did it, she actually let the dog baby drink the water and then gave me back the cup to get some more magic water.
[00:10:11] Skip: I was like, daddy, she needs some more magic water. It's not enough. Not enough. It's never enough. It's never enough. Oh man.
[00:10:19] Shawn7: Yeah.
[00:10:19] Pete: That's great, man. That imagination man, and them making you be a part of it is crazy, man. It definitely is crazy. I have to cook and all kinds of things too. Like in her kitchen, push cook.
[00:10:31] Pete: No, you have to open it like this. Like you said, she won't let you fake it. No, you're not gonna just do it and put it down. No, no. You have to make it like this. Then she's taking it from me now and trying to show me how to do it. Yeah, and you better do it right too. So
[00:10:48] Shawn7: let me tell y'all's so funny, man. My okay.
[00:10:50] Shawn7: My 16 year old. Yep. You go in her bedroom, she has. A whole wall in her bedroom dedicated to her teddy bears. Yeah. Her dogs. Yeah. She's still 16, [00:11:00] right? I still catch her. I come in her room every now and still catch her, sit on the floor, having full blown conversations with these dogs. Who's who? 16. 16. But you know what?
[00:11:11] Shawn7: I don't go in there and sell her. What are you doing? Or nothing like that? Or, or, or just bring her down or nothing like that. I go in there, I just start laughing and just be like, you know what? Myself, what? I encourage that because if I say something to discourage her, that might just mess up the whole thing that she got going on.
[00:11:26] Shawn7: So it's a beautiful thing.
[00:11:29] Skip: And so just segueing into this, and I'm glad you brought that up, especially even as she ages, there's still some things she retains as far as her imagination. And I know if you're being creative of yourself as well as Pete. In what ways is your child like you or your children like you in your case?
[00:11:42] Shawn7: My children are like me in so many ways, but one way that stands out. Is there stubbornness? There stubbornness to, to give up on things. They're just all around stubbornness that come for me. I gave them that shit. Yeah.
[00:11:58] Skip: That's awesome man. I [00:12:00] know for myself, I think the biggest thing is my daughter's somebody that. She's always trying to solve a problem. And that's something that is like really big with me, especially when it comes to a creative sense, trying to like brainstorm to solve a problem. Yeah. And it's neat seeing her develop those, those particular behaviors and those habits.
[00:12:21] Skip: Early on and oh, okay, I know where I see where she gets this from. I know why she does this. And then even with the part with the talking thing, cuz I was like, I already know she was gonna do that. That was gonna be, I already expected that. And I think another thing that I thought was really neat, it's just her love for music, her love for sound.
[00:12:37] Skip: Now that's something I didn't really sit down and was like, Hey, you're gonna listen to this music, you're gonna listen to these beats. I never did that. Or You can do this podcast stuff. It's just, she just saw me working on different things, would see me interacting and all of a sudden I think this is probably around, she was about maybe about nine, like about 10 months.
[00:12:53] Skip: 10, 11 months. Cuz she was already saying words and stuff and already talking. Yeah, but she was walking up, she'd be like, podcast, podcast. [00:13:00] And I'm like, what does she know about podcast? I'm not, I don't sit there and talk to her about a podcast. But she knew what was going on. She knew what was happening.
[00:13:08] Skip: She knew when we did the podcast, she knew it was Ms. Tamaya, she knew it was Mr. Mike and she knew it was her Uncle Anir, and so she knew all these things already, and I was like, and it was just neat to see, to pick up on those things. Mine,
[00:13:20] Shawn7: I can
[00:13:21] Pete: say Music. Her, her sports is crazy, we're Connecticut, yeah, exactly. She watches that with my mom all the time. Oh, yeah. You kinda, she don't miss a game, you know that in. Yeah, of course. La of course. I'm, they come on too late for me to watch, but she's watching it. She doesn't know what go to bed means. Mm-hmm. So like if, if I'm in the studio, I'm making a beat and I'm not, she's doing her thing on her tablet or on her phone?
[00:13:48] Pete: No, daddy. It's my turn now. Yeah. Oh, the album I got coming out in June, she's on the actual bus. Oh, word. Yeah. Awesome. Awesome. And that was the session where I was doing it, and [00:14:00] she completely stopped me. It's my turn daddy. I was like, okay, let me save it. No, no, no, no, no. She started Plusing playing, just adding onto that.
[00:14:08] Pete: I was like, oh, so that's what you mean. She does that and at basketball practice we leave. Now she knows when to tell them to run. Oh yeah. Oh, so she coached too. Yes. Yes. Oh, so little Doris
[00:14:18] Skip: daily? Definitely. Oh man. Goodness
[00:14:20] Pete: gracious. She will get on them in a minute. You need to run. He's not trying. He's not.
[00:14:25] Pete: Oh,
[00:14:26] Skip: show question. The heart and everything. Yeah. She gonna do it.
[00:14:28] Pete: Heart, she's gonna do it, man. Otherwise that she talks a lot more to me. So that's her mama. She really. Like that sports and music. Yeah, I can see that with, mm-hmm. I can see that with,
[00:14:40] Shawn7: you know what I'm piggyback off of what you guys said.
[00:14:42] Shawn7: That goes along with kids are a product, a product of their environment. Yeah. And I say that because my son, my 18 year old son, what, he'll be 18 next month. This Joker man. When he was a baby, newborn baby. I stayed home from work for a while while my wife and she was military. Mm-hmm. So I stayed home for work for a while and I was going to the [00:15:00] studio.
[00:15:00] Shawn7: So I would have to take him with me and I would take my son to the studio. So he, as a baby, he was already experienced to studio life. Oh. And then as a baby, when I'm home with him, I was sitting write music with him in my lap. Yeah. I listen to beats. Mm-hmm. And he would fall. That's how we fall asleep.
[00:15:14] Shawn7: Uhhuh like he'll cry, be crying and cry. As soon as I turn that beat on. That joker pass right off, go straight to sleep. So now he plays two different instruments. Yeah. He sings and he can come up with a song off the top of his head, just like that. Mm-hmm. My youngest daughter, she sings. Yeah, my oldest son, I built him a matter of fact, I, I ain't even gonna say I built it.
[00:15:35] Shawn7: He built it itself. Yeah. I just gave him. Some of the equipment he needed, but he built his own studio in my backyard when he was on 16. That's awesome. Yeah. That's incredible. That's awesome. Yeah, kids all proud of
[00:15:44] Skip: their environ. And I guess I asked this question, so how does that make you feel? Saying, that work that you put in and it's not like you necessarily pushed them down that path.
[00:15:52] Skip: I didn. But to see that's something that they've embraced themselves to their lives. It ma, it makes me feel.
[00:15:56] Shawn7: Feel proud as a dad, and I wish I would've pushed just a little [00:16:00] bit. Yeah. Because each one of them has that talent, but none of them utilizes that talent as something that they want to do. Yeah. All of 'em have different things.
[00:16:07] Shawn7: Like one wants to be a chiropractor. My my 17 year old, he's getting ready to graduate this year and he's going to R RT to be an engineer. Yeah. Oh, okay. Then my older kids, they have their own thing going on, so it's like I'm proud that I was able to instill that into them. So at any given time they choose to do that?
[00:16:22] Shawn7: Yeah, they can, but I wish I would've pushed just a little. Just a little
[00:16:26] Skip: bit. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And that's one of the things I always, ask especially with social media, yeah. You always see, it's not like there's a. Middle ground, either it's parents that push their kids.
[00:16:38] Skip: Yes. Because, we get the highlights of parents that push their kids all the way to whatever they see as success. And we can talk about all those parents that goes back to Joe Jackson, right? Yeah. All the way the people like LaVar Ball. Mm-hmm. But you also see parents that are just like I just let my kids do whatever and whatever they're gonna do, I'm gonna support them.
[00:16:56] Skip: I just love them anyway. And it feels especially with [00:17:00] dads, It's I think even more so than than mothers. Mm-hmm. It seems we always had to make that choice on the extremes. Yeah. And a lot of times it feels like we always had to make that choice where we gotta push them really hard.
[00:17:11] Skip: Mm-hmm. And I guess especially for us, especially being black men and of course for our history and everything, our background we're always seems like we have no choice in some ways to push them. To be successful. elaborating off of that, like how do you guys feel being in that role, do you guys feel like you are having to, be in the role, having to do more of the pushing that falls
[00:17:30] Shawn7: into the category of what type of help mate do you have?
[00:17:33] Shawn7: Yeah. Mm-hmm. So if you have, if you have the right help make, you won't have to even worry about that question right there at all, because. It's gonna be a balance within at home. So you, if you are pushing, the wife is right there, or your partner is right there with you pushing right along with you. Y'all, y'all balancing that thing out.
[00:17:52] Shawn7: Mm-hmm. So if the daddy might be pushing a little too hard, mommy's pushing too, but she's gonna push us a little softer, but she's right there with daddy to put that balance in there. Okay. So [00:18:00] it just all depends on what helped me. If you by yourself yeah, you as that father, you gonna push a lot harder.
[00:18:05] Shawn7: Yeah. You gonna push a whole lot harder than what that, that, that, that mom might push. But if you have that balance within that home, man, it's, it's gonna be, it's gonna be a beautiful thing between two people that sees the goal. Okay. Both of y'all tunnel vision and that tunnel vision is your kids' future of becoming something major and great in life.
[00:18:20] Skip: Yeah.
[00:18:21] Pete: Okay. Yeah. I honestly think it's. Finding that balance. And he's, he's exactly right. Having that right partner with you allows you to do it, I try to keep her things she's interested in. I try to push her in it. Yeah. But like you said, it's people that push 'em too hard because they try to relieve themselves through it.
[00:18:41] Pete: I'm, I'm very scared of that. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't want her to resent me for, when she gets an age where she understands, you're pushing, but you're not pushing too hard. Yeah. I want her to be happy with the push that she got, you know what I mean? So she can honestly say my dad supported me.
[00:18:55] Pete: He was there for me. He let me know about the bad things that's gonna come with what [00:19:00] I'm doing, as well as the good and. It was up to me to make that decision, not him saying, you're gonna do this. Yeah. You better do this. Yeah. If it's anything like that, it's do good in school and things that you have to do, but otherwise that No.
[00:19:12] Pete: Get down baby. Please.
[00:19:15] Shawn7: Okay. Sorry.
[00:19:17] Skip: Wait, wait. One of the things, like I said, I always gotta mention everybody too, with this episode. This episode, audio wise is always gonna sound different. Especially like the Mother's Day and the Father's Days because when we started my daughter was in the. Room and this is, and this is something I definitely wanna continue on now, as long as she wants to hang out or whatever, whatever little comes after her.
[00:19:37] Skip: But, so we'll keep doing this, but it's fun just like seeing her interact and I gotta give a shout out to Samaya too. Not only is she recording our content, For this, but she's also keeping the eye on these kids as well, so you gotta give her props. Shout out Tobi. Yes. But the next question I gotta ask is what's one thing that you've always probably wanted, and I guess this might be more or less for [00:20:00] you, Shawn, what's one of the things that you might have always wanted to tell your child or your children, but you haven't?
[00:20:05] Shawn7: One thing that I wanted to tell my kids, I would probably say one thing I would've told them, man is. I, I would've been more transparent with my kids, especially the older two, if I would've been more transparent as far as who they daddy used to be, so that way they would know. Yeah. And it wouldn't be a surprise when, when, when they hear the stories, oh, your dad did this, or your dad did that.
[00:20:27] Shawn7: I wish I've Makes sense. Just been straight up with all my kids. Yeah. Which my younger kids. They got it because yeah, the older ones already told them. Yeah. But if I have told the older ones ahead of time, man, they would've been like, oh, so my, oh, he was doing that back in the days, huh? But they see the growth and the change in me.
[00:20:42] Shawn7: Yeah. I was trying to hide that. Okay. If I would've never tried to hide that, then they would've been like, oh, so my dad is a straight up dude. They ain't, ain't, ain't no flaws in him at all. He's always been solid with us. Yeah. So that's one thing I wish I would've been my first two was transparent.
[00:20:58] Pete: Just to tell her to [00:21:00] always, be prepared for what's going to happen.
[00:21:01] Pete: Everything's not gonna be happy. Everything's not gonna be, given to you like how you want it. But yeah, if you work hard at what you're gonna do in life and continue to be the best you, you can possibly be every day, then you can control your outcome with it. I love
[00:21:18] Skip: that makes sense. And I guess for me with that, when it comes to that question, I think one of the things I haven't told her yet, and I guess she doesn't really understand it yet mm-hmm.
[00:21:28] Skip: Is. That even though your parents are here to guide you and to protect you and to help you to get to um, adulthood, we still make mistakes in doing, going through that process I know that's something she's not gonna really understand right now, and it might take her a little while to understand that, but that's one of the biggest things I'll.
[00:21:48] Skip: Like to be able to communicate to her, but she's not gonna understand that at two, right?
[00:21:54] Pete: At that age, I wish I could have told her I'm not rich.
[00:21:57] Skip: Oh, that's a good one too.
[00:21:59] Pete: [00:22:00] Yes, yes, yes. I ask all the time, where's your money? Cuz she has no, I wanna spend your money. Yes. Okay. Yes.
[00:22:07] Shawn7: That's every girl day, man.
[00:22:09] Shawn7: She doesn't believe
[00:22:11] Pete: you. Tell me all the time you're at work. So you got money. I don't care. I don't care.
[00:22:15] Shawn7: Hey, It doesn't stop, man. It does. Even, even when they get married, they sell, man, it just gets more Stop.
[00:22:22] Skip: Expensive. No expensive. Go goodness. what is one thing you wish you would've known before becoming a parent?
[00:22:31] Shawn7: One thing I wish I would've known. Mm-hmm. It wasn't, it's, it is not a rule book for parents. So that, that falls into what we first started off with. Mm-hmm. Once again, it's the journey and experience that you're gonna go through.
[00:22:44] Shawn7: So regardless if you know it, know it now. Yep. You still gotta go through it. Yeah. And you still gotta experience it, mm-hmm. I just, I just, I just love the journey, man of life, man. And that, and being a parent. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a beautiful journey. Mm-hmm. Especially being a parent of [00:23:00] multiple children.
[00:23:00] Shawn7: Yeah. So that means I got to enjoy this journey four times over. Yeah. It's beautiful, man. And it, it just, and it, and it gives you knowledge, wisdom, and, you guys can't see. Right now, but I got gray hair full on my chin. Yeah. And I don't regret now I want gray hair, man. And those kids probably put these gray hairs down.
[00:23:22] Shawn7: Yeah. But I love it. I, like I said, I just love the journey, man, of being a, being a father man. And I got a shot out my kids because they, the reason that I'm, I am a father and they, the reason I'm here on this episode with you guys. Yes. Being able to talk about it. Yeah. So shout out to
[00:23:36] Skip: them. Definitely.
[00:23:37] Skip: Definitely.
[00:23:38] Pete: I wish I would've known it was gonna be this, this fun and interesting cause like I heard about it, in our community you don't really, really fully hear about how exciting it is. You hear a lot more about the negative about it and whatnot. Yeah. You might have a few friends that are outstanding parents that'll tell you about it and you can see it.
[00:23:56] Pete: But going back and knowing that it was gonna be like this, I think. [00:24:00] That's the, that's the thing. Before then, I didn't expect it to be like that, but it's very exciting every day,
[00:24:07] Shawn7: especially when you watch, say if your own parents struggled and you watch them in the back of your head, you like, man, I, I don't want that for my kids, man,
[00:24:15] Pete: that's, that's like the go.
[00:24:16] Pete: You know what I mean? That is the gold mood.
[00:24:22] Pete: That is what puts me on go every single day, man. Like when you be tired sometimes you're like, I can't, I gotta keep going. Got to man. Gotta keep going. Can't let him see me in this down or in whatever way it is, but I just gotta keep going for Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
[00:24:39] Skip: I think for me the one thing I wish I would've known is how much sleep you're not gonna get.
[00:24:47] Skip: Cause it's like I'm the night out. I like, and the thing is that's covered for somebody as a night owl. Cuz when it comes to like when I like being a producer, I've always was a night owl when it came to production, so I always stayed up late working on music. So I'd be up till about three or four [00:25:00] o'clock.
[00:25:00] Skip: But it is a whole different type of thing when you gotta put a child down to bed and then they might wake up at one o'clock, they might wake up at three, they might wake up at four, and then you're trying to do all that while doing other man, what is sleep? Yes, that's my sleep. It's just sleep.
[00:25:21] Skip: That part. I wish I would've told myself that. That's probably the biggest thing. But I know I definitely want to go ahead and wrap up. But before I do, I wanted you guys to of share your contact information, your socials. Okay. So people can not only get in touch with you guys, but also find about the awesome, creative things that y'all do as well.
[00:25:38] Skip: Okay. Cause our platform is about that too.
[00:25:40] Shawn7: So you can reach me at Sean Tyson on Facebook or Sean seven, aka g The Lion on Instagram and TikTok. And you can also reach us at Boss Effect Podcast Community on Facebook and. Like I said, I host a podcast with my wife, the beautiful Queen Kimmy, with the ie, which is [00:26:00] called Boss Effect.
[00:26:01] Shawn7: And that's on all streaming platforms that I host po podcast content. And also you can, you can check out my music on all streaming platforms as Sean seven. That's all my new music. And if you want to check out anything old that I've done, you can check it out at Gda Lyon, that's g e d a l i o n on all streaming platforms as well.
[00:26:20] Shawn7: Holler at your boy. If you like the music, if you love the podcast, leave a review and everything. Share, share, share. Like we always say, tell a friend to tell a friend to tell another friend. Awesome.
[00:26:31] Pete: I'm Pete Reed on Facebook. You can check out some of my music. Beat Man Pete on all streaming platforms as well as I have my website with music as well at.
[00:26:41] Pete: Beat man pete.com. You don't even have to put the www in there. I'm on instagram@beatmanpete.com as well as Beat Stars, as Beat man, Pete. So basically you can just type all those in on every platform and he'll pop up somewhere out
[00:26:58] Skip: of there, man. [00:27:00] Appreciate it. Appreciate it. And like I said, man, it was just an honor being able to speak with both of you brothers today.
[00:27:05] Skip: I know with Pete, man, this has been about, ooh, this this, this conversation has been two years coming, right? Cause we're supposed to have this conversation last year. Then other things we worked on, really huge. I think it was great because this one was a long time coming. Like I said, I know me and Pete had talked about this episode, but then also just like the purpose of starting the podcast in the first place was to talk about as a creative, like how do we pursue things such as like podcasts and music.
[00:27:32] Skip: Or other endeavors, but at the same time, still manage family. And that's really the whole point and the purpose of it. This is why we ultimately, why we do it So I was thankful to be able to do that. And I wanted to get, let someone give a shout out before they go. You wanna give a shout?
[00:27:47] Skip: Savannah wanna talk? You wanna talk? You wanna say thank you for being on the show? He be on the show. You wanna say Podcast? Podcast. She always [00:28:00] wanna say that on the show. You wanna talk on the mic? Wanna let, wanna let the kids talk on the mic real quick? So you wanna say something, Kayla? Cause they been hearing y'all the whole time in the background.
[00:28:12] Pete: Say shout out to the podcast.
[00:28:15] Skip: I want to
[00:28:17] Pete: say that. Okay. What you gonna say? You wanna say podcast? I don't
[00:28:21] Skip: remember say hill talk. I don't dunno how. I don't, I did. I don't dunno mean to remember.
[00:28:29] Pete: You don't need to remember. Yeah. I don't
[00:28:30] Skip: dunno how to remember.
[00:28:35] Pete: So you just scared cuz you on the spot.
[00:28:38] Shawn7: Yes, she.
[00:28:38] Skip: But with that said, one of the things I definitely want to do is shout out this amazing book that Shawn and his wife queen Kimmy put together, and it's called 10 K and 10 Days the Game. And basically what the book is about. It's about conversations that they've had on their podcast with individuals such as myself and others.
[00:28:57] Skip: And there's a game that they play [00:29:00] where we're actually quizzed on How can we make 10 K in 10 days? And they give you limited resources to do it. Yes. The awesome thing about that is I actually ended up being in a book, Sean actually used my techniques and actually got paid using the techniques, which I
[00:29:14] Shawn7: thought was
[00:29:15] Pete: incredible.
[00:29:15] Pete: That is awesome, man. I definitely gotta check that book out, man. It's definitely
[00:29:18] Shawn7: right now, support, man. It's the, it's the number one new release book right
now,
[00:29:21] Pete: man. Congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations on that man.
[00:29:24] Shawn7: Yep, you say this, but it's more shout out to Kevin, man because it's all about the authors that was in the book.
[00:29:31] Shawn7: Me and my wife we're not even in there, just our pictures on the back cover of the book. But than that, we focused on all the people that came on our podcast and gave great answers. And like he said, I utilized what he said in the book. And I made 5k in three days. Yep. That's awesome. Awesome. So awesome.
[00:29:45] Shawn7: Shout out to me. Awesome. Shout out to Kevin for that Great advice and
[00:29:47] Skip: ideas. Yeah, check it out. Check it out. The book is on Amazon. Yes. You can get you can get a paperback copy or you can get a Kindle copy and after this episode we'll actually post in links for how you can purchase it as well.[00:30:00]
[00:30:00] Skip: Okay. But other than that, man, fellas, I think this was an amazing conversation. It was beautiful just being, to talk to both of you guys on this amazing Sunday afternoon and like I said, this episode will be dropping of course on Father's Day. Why wouldn't it? That's what's up.
[00:30:13] Shawn7: That's awesome.
[00:30:13] Shawn7: One quick question.
[00:30:15] Pete: You doing an audio book for it?
[00:30:16] Shawn7: Yes. That's awesome. I'm gonna do the audio, but I was supposed, matter of fact, I'm glad you said that cause I was slacking. It's gonna be done probably this week or next week. That's
[00:30:24] Pete: awesome. Yes. Cause I, I like to do that when I'm at work instead of jamming to music.
[00:30:29] Pete: I'm so tired of listening to music. I just put audio books on all day. Yeah. It make my time go by faster, but I definitely gonna support that. Either way of goes. Appreciate it, man. Definitely. Thanks a lot. That's good. Good information. I definitely can use. Especially for that one. Beautiful, beautiful. I can't tell her about that.
[00:30:44] Pete: 10 K in 10 days. I don't think I
[00:30:46] Skip: get to see it like I said, man. With that said fellas my name is Kevin STAs and I'm here with Sean seven Pete Reed, and it's been your latest edition of The Hilltop Glove Podcast. Peace.
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