right. What up? What up? Yes, so we are, of course, you know this is gonna be well, welcome to the Hilltop Glove Podcast, season three slash season four. We're having a little bit of technical difficulties here, trying to do our online thing today, our remote. We're trying out a new platform. We're just seeing how it works. There's a lot of bugs in the system, obviously, but I think 

 is straight audio, right? Not video.

 Yeah. , you know what, we can 

 Hey, Lisa 

 ahead. You can get on Or Lisa don't even hear you. Hey girl. You hear? She heard.

 I'm not presentable.

 Wait. It.

 Oh, that, that's what I was telling you. If you not,

 Yeah. You cool?

 what I was saying. You're fine.

 I just wanted to do, I just wanted to see what this looked like too. , outside of my computer for the, when I do the other, , , content

 Yeah. This is cool.

 Sure.

 Yeah, this is cool.

 This

 Oh, I'm not gonna lie, dude, you look like the type of person who's doing serious

 right.

Okay. Print over there.

 Well, we all know he's not Oh no. You good? You good? You good? This is Patreon stuff anyway. No way. Ain't gonna really see, this is just, this is gonna be exclusive stuff, , we're talking. But, , I guess we'll go ahead and just get to the point. So limited time because you know I got this baby on the clock. You baby on the clock. , so, , what did you, , we wanna talk a little bit about season three, , and just like, what were some of you guys the favorite, , episodes, favorite memories of season three?

What are some of the funniest things that happened? And we'll start right there.

 Dang man, that's, that's a lot.

 I know well start out. Well, what was your favorite memory of season three?

 Okay, one second. I gotta pull up the list because I gotta make sure I'm looking at this so I'm not being, I don't wanna be a liar. You know, I wanna, I don't wanna be capping, capping hard. Hey man, we talked, we talked to the one of the members, the founders of, of Grand Grandma Flash The Furious five. I don't wanna be lying up here, so I'm gonna look at this list so I can see what I like.

And, , I will tell you this. Here's the cool thing about season three. Just before we say anything, is that we started moving, , and we were going. From place to place and we're really outside of Columbus. That was, that was interesting. So it, , expanded the people that we're speaking with. So we do have a very different list than we did from season one and two.

 Yeah.

 , I will say this, I, I gotta give, at least, I could give a top three, at least give us like Mount Mount Rushmore, like top five, you know what I'm saying? Gives the top five because then that we can work from,

 Oh man. I, I, I can give you, I can right now, I can probably give you

three, , three of my favorite. , I would probably say my favorite, probably my, like my top three. I like Kill Ripkin's

 Me too

 , kill. Yeah. I like, I really enjoyed Kill's episode. That one was great. I would say the next episode I liked, and I wasn't even on this episode. I liked the live that you guys did. I really loved the live that you all

did with, ,

 Yeah, that was fun. That was different.

 And then I, yeah, and then I would say just because of, , this per this person's background and this I'll share, , mutual interest in music production, I would probably go with, , master Key. 'cause that was one I think I talked the most on as well

 Yeah, very true.

 And so those are my three. 

 even lie. I, I had to go back

and look at this chart 'cause I forgot who all we were.

 That's what I'm saying. Like you can't keep all that in there. Like you gotta look at this man.

 Oh, honor, roll Mansion. , the Mother's Day episode, the Mother's Day and the Father's Day episodes were dope too, because we gotta do 

 good. Those were good.

 were dope. Yeah.

 my

Twitch too, on my phone. Lexi.

 Oh,

oh, snap. Hey, what up? Switch people.

 Click switch. Hey, what's happening?

 , for, for me

for season three, , I definitely liked, , Napoleon Wells. I loved

his episode. And then, , Cherise Terry, I liked her episode.

And, 

 yeah. Hers was good too. 

 Jonathan Jones, 'cause he talked about podcasting. So I definitely like, those are my

top three. And then like

 money.

 the, the one we

traveled to, , Greenville, I liked that one. Those because,

 I like all of those. That's why I said that's so, that's why I said it's kind of hard. I like all of those just because of being in a different location, vibe area, like actually learning something that I did not know before. That's always good. And to do it in a, , In, a way in which we're actually, it's our work, but it was

edifying, man.

It's always good. It's always beautiful. We came out of there and we had green plants and stuff when we left there. Tamaya, come on. Like, yeah,

like,

 that point on, I feel like, we kept getting gifts now, like.

 yep. 

 yeah, 

 y'all. We, we, we like that y'all, we appreciate that. Y don't have to, but if you bring it, we ain't, we like to,

but I'll say all. So, Three. If I ain't doing five, top three, I gotta say Vaughn, because it was nice being able to speak with her. Close the loop because I started podcasting with Vaughn. So it was nice having her see the, the change in what we do and how it's done, and then watch her, , evolve, , specifically into doing something that she is really into with, , C B D legislation, , with her and her husband owning that C B D store, being the only black owners of that in Charleston, , in the location, like where they are at.

I. I applaud them. That is, that's a tough road because I know they by themselves a lot of times in that situation. , in that instance, and I know man, it's great. Specifically like, man, I've been up here trying to make sure I get on my, my last close out of the quarter and do it right. Trying to get my workout in and I'm sore.

I'm gonna have to call them and see if I can get me some product so I can put on these muscles and stuff like that, that help me ease with the inflammation.

 This magnesium for,

 Magnesium.

 like a,

 Alright, I got magnesium. I, 

 it's like an oil compressed magnesium.

It's not like a pill. Magnesium, yeah.

 What? And you rub it on your,

 It's

 whoa, '

 cause I guess they gotta like press it and you know,

 okay. You said, what's that called?

 send you.

 I'm in the office. I got take a note. I'm take a note.

 on. It's like right here. Lemme get it. You're funny.

 See, because see, this is how you find stuff out. I didn't know this. I could be walking around. I'll have to be hurting. I could give some of this. Nisha could use this. She ain't be hurting.

 Herbs and Co. It's called Calm, it's like Instagram. ,

 you said? Little herbs and co

 black-owned business and they do like skincare stuff for like

 shout outs. Shout outs.

 , it's face and body oil, but it can help with sore muscles, cramping, backaches, bruises, sleep, anxiety, stress and skin tightening. So it's like real

magnesium. This, this is expensive. This probably like 70. 

 Wow. Never knew about it. I'm gonna see if I can get some on Lolo. Maybe some will fall off the back of a ship or a contain or some kind of Van

Okay. Or matter of fact, they got the Amazon  stuff coming up. I may have to wait. Until 11th. Hit it on 11th. But yeah, ne neither here nor there. That was a good little plug. Got a little plug. Shameless plugs for everybody. You got one in there for them because that, that sounds like a good product. We need that product.

Alright, so I'm gonna go on my second person. , my, the, the second interview that I like, , that I was really happy about and this may was, was clean and hit man black because I like that couple.

A hundred percent all day, every day. And it was fun. It was so cool having both of them together because I hadn't had a chance to meet Hitman like that.

I've heard about him, knew about him, was following his page about his plates and all that stuff, and I never got a chance to meet him. And I know Queen, she's excellent, beautiful soul. And so it's always nice to talk to both of them and seeing both of 'em together as a, , And how they hold each other down, how they work at business with each other, how they keep each other motivated, et cetera.

That was something that was really positive to see, especially with me. , I hit that, that year anniversary and being married and understanding how you have to work with that. Yeah, you gotta work with other person, how that stuff goes. It's cool watching, , other examples of it by younger people, so that was dope.

The last one I'm gonna say, and this is, I'm gonna throw it because of course I like everything that we did in, in Greenville. , so it's not, I like the kill ripping one. Kevin knows I like the kill ripping one because

 yeah.

 that's a person after my, yeah. Person after my own soul. , in the sense of, Like what I'm trying to figure out and what's going on in the world and in life.

And so it's nice speaking the like-minded people because you don't always get a chance to do that. And some of the people and, and master teachers that I like to follow and read up on a lot of the stuff that they, he knows these people. So it's, it's kind of like interesting. It's like, wow, man, you, you're, you're, you actually know the person that I'm a quote unquote a fan of because of something that they do outside of.

Sports and all this other stuff like that. Entertainment in a normal way, some nerd stuff as they would call it. So

that's dope. I like that one. That was excellent. , yeah, that three 

 like on Patreon

or part two on Patreon.

 Yeah. That'd be dope. That'd be extra dope.

 Yeah, and I think, , the biggest thing for me is really, I think season three was like, well, I was just really

intentional, especially when it came to booking. 'cause I think before, not that I was just, I think season, like I love everybody. We like interview for season one and season two. But I can tell, I know especially on my end, I was a lot more focused on, okay, what are some, who are some of the people that we want to bring on and some, what are some of the issues that we wanna talk about or at least, you know, have conversations with, especially our, these particular guests. And it was just really great just seeing how that kind of evolved. And I went along, we went through the Caesar, and then also too, it's like you could really see our growth. From

 look like we know what we're doing.

 season three. And then it was so creepy, like just seeing like how we would start out having conversations at the beginning of the

season and then seeing how we were, , as we were finishing up and even when we were, when everybody wasn't really there, like when everybody wouldn't always be

there. So like, It might be some tape interviews where I wasn't there.

Right. Or it might be somewhere you weren't

on, or, or Tamaya wasn't. Right. Or then it might be, like I said, it may just be like two of us interviewing, like, like as, as a matter of fact, like the last , few interviews we did, it was Mike and Tamaya that were doing, and it was also seeing that consistency and just like how the interviews were going down and like how quality everything was.

And you could tell it's like, oh man. Like they, on top of it, man, like it is like, Yeah, it's like just keeps us going. It was just awesome seeing that. And then even just thinking about like, going into what we've been doing recently with season four, it's crazy. Just like season four, the interviews we did, it was the same thing.

It was like, oh man, like we're starting to get this down. Especially with the first interview we did back in July for, , for season

four, , with Mr.

Jeter. It was so funny to sitting there like, oh man, because we were talking about it afterwards. Like, oh, we got this down and we're just like

sitting there to have a conversation. Yeah, so it's neat just seeing that growth and just continuing. 'cause I think a lot of times what people get caught up in is they ready. They're really ready to get to the end, you know, to the fi, like the Z and the finish line. 'cause they see other people who have like amazing content, whether that's podcasts, streams or whatever, right? And they're like, man, I know at once I get help, be able do this and do this and do this. But nobody really understands. It's a lot of work that goes in between. There's a lot of sacrifice you

gotta put in. To even get to that point. And that's really the main thing. Like when we talk to people in the classes, that's one of the things I try, we try to tell 'em.

It's like, yo, you gotta, you gotta stick with it. 'cause if you don't stick with it, you're, it's, it's not gonna happen. Because, you know, when people come to me, especially like from a consultant standpoint or wanting to work, you know, like wanting to create their own contact. Oh, I wanna do this, this many episodes.

And I'm like, man, you'd be lucky if you.

 I be realistic. She, you

 25 episodes is a lot, 25 is a lot. And I, that's a lot in itself, right? So when people talk about that stuff, I'm like, all right, you gotta have a mindset that you're not looking for the here and now, but you're looking for the future. Because it's not gonna, it's not gonna pop up overnight. I hate to say, you're not gonna just strike an oil mine.

It 

 did we do for season three?

 That's gonna be 76. 

 Yo, 

 through

 you.

 80. Wait,

 80,

 did 40 episodes season.

 No, you did about 36. 36 episodes.

46 to 82.

 No, because this is the crazy thing. So we did 46 episodes because the Mother's Day and the Father's Day counts

episodes too. Right? 

 That's true.

 So that's 38.

 And then this was during the time while we were also filming the, the stuff 

 Right. That's why

 yeah,

 we really, , we really

 that's a.

 the limit. We really pushed the limit last, I mean, last season. So now we gotta figure out how to structure

our side projects, the

mini side projects, teaching people podcasting, teaching kids podcasting, summer camp, getting grants. our podcast. That's like

six separate things that we're doing top of walking a nine to five.

 Yeah.

 but explain that to people. That's, that's what people don't, they don't realize, like all of us, we all work, work actual career jobs outside of doing this quote, quote unquote. Yeah,

yeah.

That, that are quote, unquotes called a passion project, but 

 Did so much stuff. I'm like, I barely remember season three, like.

 You don't even remember all that time. You don't even remember them hours. Kevin, imagine if those are just straight billable hours.

 That's what

 Yeah, that's what work. That's why you gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta work it.

 And I guess, and I guess that's why when I'll be having conversations with folks, , some and they'll be like, man, I wanna do this and do that. And you know, I wanna work on this. We got this episode going, we just started. And I'll be like looking at 'em just like this

 And I.

 Wait.

Run. Go get your freedom.

 I

 Oh,

 I know,

man,

 well under. I say that.

 Oh yeah. I'll give us credit for that. That is, I think that's probably our

 We don't turn. We don't turn at each other and start stabbing each other. That's what, now I'm not gonna lie, we don't cannibalize each other. That's what you see happens in a lot of situations. They look, they'll be up on that mountain, right? Kevin? Like them soccer players that were stuck in that plane crash and or, and, and they'll be like, man, you know, it's cold.

I sure am hungry. You look like Marvin's leg looks real good today. How about we eat Marvin, y'all ? We don't do that. We haven't, we haven't decided to eat nobody's leg. Mm.

 No, you're right about that. You're absolutely right about that. 'cause I don't think a lot of times we take that

we don't.

do that because like you said, so many times, you see so much invite and, and don't get me wrong, like we'll be having conversations with each other and all right, we ain't seeing eye to eye on that because it'll be like a

lot of times like, because I'll be talking tomorrow, some days I say so, oh, we don't see eye to eye on

 you can't agree on everything. No, you can't.

 It just, and like I said, I, and, and if I'm, if I'm wrong, y'all can correct me. It seems like what we have, at least from our, like our, even with Mike, like I said, shot to Mike, Mike couldn't be on today, but like I said, but you know, Mike's always in the building, but like with all of us, right. It seems like when we always have those conversations and we get to that point where we can tell like, this is like a no-go zone for that person.

It's not like we try to avoid it. It's just like, you know what? 

 Right. We just like 

 moving and keep working. Yeah.

 The, the friend, the friendship and the camaraderie is more important than winning on a, on an argument. Like we don't, we aren't there to have ego 

 that goes back to, , season four, Tego B and his, , and.

 How you give away the other new season

 Spoiler. Alert, alert, alert.

 It's all But go ahead. Go ahead. No, you I know, but go ahead. Sorry about that.

 It's already in the bag. Mm-hmm.

 were you saying about 

 partner, they was like, they don't argue. They just like it's business over. You know? Like even

though they do two separate businesses, it's not like one, they're like leveled. You know what I'm saying? It's not

 They have the same importance.

 box and you know,

 Oh, that's exact yo preach, preach. But they will see that, they will see that in season four. They will see that, , that information that you get off those first couple episodes is it's not that million dollars worth 

 Right 

 type status like it really is. It's not. May. Hey, Hey.

That's why. Hey, the Patreon man. Sorry. Hey, let's start , lemme tap on them pockets real quick because I mean, the information that they're gonna be getting from these folks is, it's sincere. It's sincere information. It's nobody trying to hol like hustle you or, or, or highlight you to come to some kind of like infomercial or.

What, what are those things They do? The, the large conventions. When you come out, you spend five, 10, $10,000 and they supposed to teach you how to hustle to get the money. When you don't realize

that they are already hustle you by getting you to come out and spend five to 10 grand. That's how they make five to 10 million in one afternoon.

And then you don't realize they got that preacher talk going and they break be hustling. Go ahead.

 give you

the lowest or the information, so you still gotta keep, , searching for

 Eating. Yep.

 myself.

 Yeah. Seriously. Seriously. And you pay that money. Yeah. We ain't doing that y'all. We ain't doing that y'all.

 But, but you know what's crazy about that? So it's season four and I think I was sharing this with you guys. So there's a, , YouTuber guy. He has a YouTube channel podcast. , I think he's, I think he's located, I know he is down south. , either he is in, I wanna say either Georgia, Alabama, that's what it

seems like. But I know I want to get, I wanna try to reach out to him and get him on for, , this season and it'll be like more of a virtual conversation because he talks specifically about that. And that's what his, yeah, that's what his whole platform is about. It's about like those different content creators and then there's just those different influencers of people within that industry

and that field who, you know, take advantage of people based off of exp.

You know, like saying, Hey, look at what I got. Look at this wealth. But we get together. And then he talks about it from how, you know, how this nowadays, everything all comes from that plural black angle too, right? So it's like that whole black empowerment thing and there's nothing wrong with that, but that's how they bring in a lot of people.

Like, man, you tired of working for the man? You need to do your own thing. You out here on this, this, this, You know economic plan, this

economic 

 baby.

 blah, blah, blah, blah. Plantation mindset. You know, I'm about the dollars, you know, I'm about building legacy. I'm about blah.

You know how they do that? They drop And that's . It's so funny. Like, I gotta admit, we gotta admit I gotta get this guy on. I

 What's,

don't say his name.

Don't say his name.

 but we gotta get this guy on 'cause it's him. And there's two other brothers that also are contributors on the platform too. And they're amazing too.

'cause even if we all talk directly to him, , they're just as awesome. , as well as bringing up these things and they pull up all of this stuff. It is wild. It talks about how people get, , essentially they get kind into 

 Whole lifestyle, whole lifestyle.

 everything. Awful. It it might as well. And my thing is they might as well just be honest. Just be honest. Be your hustle man. But be honest. 'cause you aren't selling these people anything that they can actually like, use to be you, you have to keep them on that string and you use your money.

So yeah, we don't do that though. That's the, that's the main, the gist of it is that's not what we've ever wanted to do or what our, , aim is to. This platform or content. , and I think that's something that keeps us separate from a lot of the folks that we run into out here who are here for the, it's not like I tell people, it's not like, you don't wanna make money, but I'm not gonna cut your throat to make money.

 We, we

 You know?

 about it, like we really

actually help you apply the information that we're

given. 

 Mm-hmm. . 

 what do you guys think that we could do better for season four?

 we could do a, we could always do a lot better. , always, I mean, because we're always gonna 

 what area? 

 I know for me the biggest thing would just be delegating more.

 Yes, Kevin?

 , that's huge because like I have huge trust issues when it comes down to the content side of things. And I'm getting to the point now. I'm getting to the point now. Oh, that petty, was that a real cough? Was that a stage

 Hey, hey. It like she got no Dr. She ain't got no water over there, so you know, throat.

 No, but real talk. No, that's my main thing. That's what I'm working on and I'm trying to, I'm actively working on that. 'cause like even with the last, , Even with the, , our new recent tapings, right? I had nothing to do with lining everything up, booking and doing all that Right. Because I understood like, I can't do everything and I gotta,

 Let others.

 yeah.

It was hard though. I ain't gonna lie. Like I said, , like I said, shout out, , so tannic for helping us out. 'cause like I said, that was something that was a major big, , thing, , for me, just being able just to accept that and be like, all right. All right, I'm just gonna send the information and I just gotta have faith and I can't worry about it.

I just gotta just

go through it, you know? So, but after that, after that experience, like I was, I was cool with it. I could, like, I'm more confident now to where I'm like, you know what? I'm about to start delegating a whole 

 know that the foundation is set up correctly if, if it went smoothly. You see what I'm saying? So

we could just build on it from there in other areas.

 Mm-hmm. . I know. , I know I want to do more content with other people. I know that's one thing I want to do. Like I know that those people exist here in some way, shape, or form, , to get into their, their little circle, not the circles, but go, go into like, it's almost like being on a circuit. That's what it feels like.

But go and actually doing content with them, doing other folks shows, that's gonna be excellent. And then I know myself, I have to be comfortable touching this stuff. I e doing the, the editing part. I'm afraid to touch stuff and mess it up so I can even be confident actually touching stuff and doing the editing, so that way this guy will let go of some of that stuff so he don't do it.

And then that frees up him and for you too, to do other things so that I could pick more of that up.

 Yeah. Yeah, and that's, I'm glad you said that because I know we talked a little bit about it. As a matter of fact, , you could actually share what, what it is that you wanna do this

 Yeah.

 You might as well share with them.

 Yeah. So, , what I wanna start doing is, of course, when we first started, we didn't want make this. source because there's millions of those out there. , not in the saturation in that market is crazy. Where we are in the southeast, specifically with Atlanta being there, it's one of those things that, , is almost out.

It's just played out. So we, we try to stay away from that. However, what we do is with our playlist, That is, , attached to the podcast. We do try to showcase and make sure that some of these talents that are here even, because specifically we usually talk to them about things outside of the music that they're doing.

So, , if they want to get some of their, , information out about their music, usually it's through our playlist now an association to that playlist. What was decided to make sense is, hey, Why don't I go and actually have conversations with these folks virtually about their upcoming projects and information that we normally wouldn't have on our direct podcast content.

They allow for us to then bifurcate and we can have a separate little add-on channel where it's just shameless plugs, which we do at the end of all of our, , all of our shows. We let people get their shameless plug, but this will be something specifically for artists. In the community who work on music projects so that way they can talk about what they have going on.

They'll get their little two and a half to five minute talk speech, blah, blah, about what's popping off. And then we can go ahead and put it out there, , and let those people get some shine because normally we would miss those folk 'cause it's not our aim. But this way they can have a chance to actually have some of that and.

Of course I don't have to share this part, but hopefully if other things work out well, that will be a nice roll in for some other things that might be able to help these artists. Other platforms, be it radio or elsewhere. So, , that's what I wanna start doing going into the fall of this year and into the, , the first part of January because most, most, I mean first part of the, , winter, because most people get their projects ready for release in spring and summer.

So if you talk some of these people then, and then start helping 'em out and getting buzz out, that'll be really dope and we'll see how it goes.

 And then I guess for me it would just be, , communicating and then, you know, I'm like, we need to be more organized like Just be more

organized and just communicate with each other more within ourselves. You know, what other ideas can we execute more? How can we expand? Like, just now while you were talking, I was thinking about, , adding the Spotify playlist. On the newsletter that we just created.

Another 

 Yeah, yeah,

 Mm-hmm.

 just

Audi bigger in our audience and reaching a bigger, scope of people. And then like getting the big people, you know, like celebrities that we, people can

really like just come on and hop on ourselves. We just gotta believe in ourselves to reach out to them

and make that

 Yeah, because. We're we're six. Like Kevin, man, I'm not gonna lie, I thought Kevin was lying. He ain't bullshitting. Like literally we, we, six degrees of separation, we got, we literally can talk to the person that can talk to the person. Like it's not that, that hard or difficult to do. , once we, here's one of the things too is like having a physical location.

I know, , is something that called Innocence big about, specifically with black business in the sense of making sure that you have a. How you say have a good outlook to the c, to the community? Meaning like the community, they know where they can go. Put a piece of mail in if they have an issue or a concern or whatever it may be.

You have a place to do meetings at. You can even do some work out of there if you need to. But having a physical location when that time comes right. I think it'll really help with that in the sense of feeling, okay, you know what, I can get this big name person to come in. 'cause it's not like we can't do it, especially this day and age.

I mean, 

 Right, right. 

 Right. But to be, to have a place for those folks to come to, See that we do business, they'll be like, gosh, it's not even in a sense that we out 'em on the show. It's the fact that now they're like, I'm gonna do business with you and that's what I really want to start hearing.

I wanna do business with you because that lets us know, okay, we're moving in the right economic frame of mind. Those people see that we got what it takes to, because just having somebody come on, just so I can get my little. Cloudbody do something for clout, but just for clout. That's not what I, that's not what we want.

We wanted to make sure that it's an actual economic driver, so when those people come on, they're coming on. It's a business chance. It's a business opportunity, , because I don't wanna waste their time and I don't want, I don't want them to waste our time. , so that would be really cool. But, , for the time being, I do think, I mean, if we want, you know, we can get, we should be able to get some.

I know they'll talk with us. I feel confident in our abilities.

 I agree. I agree. I think that's really, I think that's something I think we all, , wanna do, especially with this season. And it's, and I think sometimes it's just striking that balance because especially when you're starting out, you can only, you can really just have interviews with people who are willing to have interviews with you.

Right. And so as you're making that, as you're starting to have that growth and you're starting to make that change, , what ends up happening is, Sometimes people may feel alienated because you might not be sitting or ta you know, you may not have those conversations with do, and so it's just, yeah. And it's like, well, and I had, we had had this conversation, , a couple months ago, , with someone, and this is not even about trying to talk to people bigger down the road.

It's just talking to people outside of your own social circle. Right. And a lot of times people don't understand that whenever you're trying to build up your platform, especially when it comes to like neat things that are based off of media and it's based off of interviews and actually having conversations with, , other folks, is it can't, you can't always have conversations with people who in your immediate social circle, Right, because that limits the value of your brand, especially as you're trying to build and you're growing.

Like if I only talk to the people I was cool with, or people I talk to on a regular basis, or I see as I'm out and about because I have certain interests as a person just like you guys, right? So if I'm only talking to the people that go to the places that I go, guess what? I'm only gonna, that's the only people I'm gonna be able to interview.

I'm not gonna talk to people

outside of. And so, and that's really, and then that's gonna keep me in a box that's gonna keep all of us in a box. And so we're not gonna do, like, why would I do that? Like,

that's kind of counterproductive. 

 we do this to grow, do

 Like

 can't,

 all of our

 can't do.

 together.

 yeah. And that's the thing, like even with us, and that's the awesome thing even like is, , Versus we may be with, , some of the different types of people that we, , we're in community with and we connect with. Even that, like between me, you, , all of us and Mike, right? That's still limited. So what else?

You know, so we still gotta, , go outside the box and I think that's something that I notice especially, , from other creators, not just, , Here, but in other places that we go, if we travel within like the

Carolinas that we see, that's very relevant. And it's even out of the areas outside of here too.

People get caught up in that because we're comfortable with what we know. And so it's just really just being able to, , keep our minds open to having conversations with, , all sorts of people, not just people who have our same types of values, who have our same, you know, we agree upon the same things. Is really just being able to bring people to the table, have this adult, , conversations, constructive conversations.

 I think that's the, that's the branding. I mean, that's what we started with. That's where I wanna stay at. The sense that we do have adult conversations. That's what it's about. It's about learning as an adult, right? And so we're having these adult conversations without any preconceived notions, because the premise for it is we don't know anything.

We didn't have a plan or a playbook. No one gave us a manual. They told us to go out there and be adults. We like, what are y'all talking about? Man, we just came outta crack. What we supposed to do? We about these crack rocks, baby. Like they . They thought it was a joke, Kevin. Everybody wanted to be a baller.

Hey Kevin, you know I'm not bullshitting Kevin. Everybody wanted to be a baller, a rapper, a dancer in the, in the, in one of the music videos or somehow just hit some money off a lottery or something like we was, that was our, we was set up 

 little people still

want now. 

 Which.

 I know. But this is yo Kevin, 84, 85.

Change the world baby. Change the world. So like if y'all watch snowfall, leave me alone. Y know what I'm about. But that really, it changed the world. So a lot of us, we don't, we didn't get what they had back in the day. Like, man, you say you were growing up and you graduated high school in 1966. You either already had a real job that could take care of your family off of one income, or you were an apprentice with somebody already for the last two or three years, and you learn how to do something with your hands that you could supply somebody with like masonry, , plumbing, something that you could just service that you could do that no one else could do.

Your kids don't come out like that no more. Come out, man, they  out Kevin. They don't come out, you know? That's right. So they don't, and it, it, so what, what you try to do and what's cool with the things that you all are doing outside that, that folks might not know, , specifically at the schools with Boys and Girls Club, is that those kids now they're getting something that you would've had back in the old school day.

 Yeah.

 skills. Learning skills. So those children, their mind's gonna be totally different than children who are just here. Like, okay, you gotta take this test, get this score so you can get out. If not, drop out, figure it out. And you know, if you don't have, , what is it? If you're, if you're, if you don't read past a fourth grade reading level, you're more than likely gonna end up in jail because you're probably gonna have to do illegal things to get money.

So,

 Mm-hmm.

 So this is something that can be, it can really be solved in some ways with people just learning real skills and, and trades. , and so that's another part of things I know that will come up that are gonna be changing with the podcast, et cetera, is just ability to, , reach out and do educational things too with groups and whatnot.

I think that is, , That is a, a, a very necessary thing. It will show that the podcast is not just in it for itself. , but you know, it has that type of, what's the word I wanna use? , the philanthropy that comes along with also being an economic system. Like you should have those things 

 We are doing a lot of

educating. I just thought about that. We like, like,

every level, I mean, it's pilot, it's

pilot programs, but we already like got 'em in place and not other

opportunities. Like a lot of people don't know that we produce podcasts for other people, so,

 No, they, yeah, y'all talk about that, man. Some people 'cause like, they think , they think y'all, I've tell people all the time I talk about you all like y'all are, , like y'all are straight up moguls already because the amount of work that you all do it is on that light. Literally. Like I, no, y'all realize these are the most busy people I know.

They get stuff busy, they make stuff happen. That's why whenever y'all say, Hey, I'm gonna be here at this time, I gotta be there. What am I supposed to say? , if it's not done work hours. Y'all already know my work hours. I, I gotta kind of be there because Yeah, man, , I'm gonna drop that real quick. I'll see y later.

, because you all do so much work that to not give you all support when you need it, it's ridiculous. You gotta be able to get the support. So yeah, I'll get y'all flowers on that one. But yeah, tell people about the stuff y'all do outside so they can understand, especially

 Break down.

 behind 

 right to you. I'll be like, just contacts.

 Man. I got some, I got, I got, as a matter of fact, I gotta call people. I gotta, , send some emails tomorrow. , so, so, , I'll go, I guess I'll talk, we'll talk about the educational

piece first and like I said, 'cause tomorrow I could talk about it, , too. So what we realized is that there are a lot of, , re , skill like transferable skills. That you learn through content creation. So you learn through podcasts and you learn through videography and photography, right? Everything from, , problem solving, , to teamwork, , critical thinking, , how to use technology. It's all these, it's all these different skills that, , Young adults can use or can apply to various careers or various career clusters. And so we were like, okay, well let's use these, let's use, , these, , these particular, , skills, these activities that we've learned, and let's share them and teach them to, , those, , young adults or teens that are interested in learning about those things. And so that's how we ended up starting our kid gloves. And so, like I said, it's play on words with hilltop gloves Makes sense. And so what we're doing is we're just gonna be providing, , that training in those three areas that I had mentioned, like I said, the podcast videography and photography, , for teenagers so they can learn how not only to create their own content, but they also learn these transferrable skills within the process and they can apply 'em to other areas, especially more like your STEM and your STEAM based, , , activities or occupations.

 and I help him at school too.

 Yeah, help 'em out school, it keeps

'em engaged. , that's one thing. It's huge thing. It keeps 'em engaged in school, obviously a little thing outside the box and it's amazing. , so right now, well we did a pilot. We technically last, , so in July we did a pilot, , with, yeah, with the camp. We partner with Carolina Film Studio. , we did it under the name Create 'cause at the time we really didn't, we were really trying to figure out things and how we needed to define things,

but we understood it just had to be something that was separate from Create itself. But we did the pilot in July, , that went really well. And we actually are working, we actually have a pilot, whatever we're working on right now, a, a 12 week pilot, , with the Boys and Girls Club in the Midlands. I went to, , teen center, , norm Arnold Teen Center, right over there, , off of , Rosewood.

 dope.

 And we started working with the kids, , last Thursday. It turned out. It's been amazing. It's been a amazing experience. Like we had a lot of fun for our first day. A lot of characters. A lot of characters, , but they're all passionate.

, they all wanna learn and they were very receptive to everything we said 'cause it's something that I guess they can relate to.

 Exactly. That's the big, that's always the big thing in learning something that's relatable.

 they feel like, you know, their voices can be heard if they're talking into the mic, you know, so it's just giving them

the opportunity to like be free

and be themselves. So I, I like just seeing them like

Come out and express things that they can't usually talk about in a, in other settings, you know? So, and they push the edge. They like challenge each other. Like, no, I don't wanna talk about sports. This is not a sports.

 Intense. Intense.

 Oh.

 Yeah. You gotta, like I said, man, because Of course. Yeah, of course. I already know what you gotta do this

Thursday, obviously. But, , But yeah, like I said, but yeah, next Thursday. Yeah, we can, yeah, you gotta come

out there. 

 Yep. I wanna 

 Those kid's a trip, man. We can't say any kids' names,

 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Can't names

 is like, he's like, he's clearly my favorite. Like this, like this guy, this young man has been here, been here before us and we're after

 Oh my Lord. He is, don't believe in 

 It's like we learn from them too, so. You know,

'cause we wanna attract the younger audience. So it's like, okay, well we see what we gotta pivot

 Yeah.

 to. Broaden our age span. You know that?

Watch our podcast.

 Exactly. Now that that'd be dope because then that'll make, it'll give what we are complaining about. They'll have it.

 Yeah.

 They'll have a ba a a roadmap. Oh, so they want to, so this is how you do this? , yeah. And then to give 'em that early, to let 'em know that link. This link is here, where these people will listen to you, they'll hear your thoughts, your concerns.

I think that's important. That's always really important for the youth because they always feel that they are not being heard. and that's from generation to generation. Our generation and before us. That's what they thought. The one before them thought the same thing. So to limit that as much as possible.

The day better

 But I guess we can go ahead and

get ready to wrap 

 our, our, our events coming up. We got

 Yeah,

 events

 that's what I'm saying.

 ​

 That's what.

 so this episode is dropping tomorrow.

 , they'll be dropping on a third, so that's what's on the calendar. So we gotta drop it on the calendar.

 Tuesday.

 said season four

starts on the, 

 this is season four.

This is like our 

 oh, 

 the recap first and then the episodes.

 my bad.

 Yeah. That's why he was, that's why he was saying when talking about that.

 Oh, see, we gotta communicate , Saturday, October 7th, we'll be at the Rosewood Arts Festival

 Yeah. It.

 with

the quasi, , black

nerd Mafia chess

 Chess?

 Yeah, that's gonna be dope. 

 are we doing episode with Sha, or is Sha going before us?

 Yeah.

 No, I think he's, 'cause this gonna be two interviews. So

 Okay.

 is gonna be one interview. It doesn't. We're gonna be as yet. That won't be us. The second. That's cool. That's gonna be dope, man. I hope the

weather's 

 because outside, right,

 Yeah.

It's supposed to be 

 I was over over there in Rosewood this weekend. Doing some, some shopping and stuff like that, man. I was like, all right, I'm gonna be right back this weekend. We're gonna see what's popping off. Let's see how nice it is, because I don't think I've ever been to the, is it at the park?

 No, it's in the street. It's like a

block 

 so it really is in this. It's really in this, yeah, man. Okay. All right. That's excellent. Now question, is this an event? Is it always held? Is

this held every year?

 I think so.

 Again, one of these things,

 ​

 right. Yeah. I'm, I'm pumped for that then, 

 gonna be at noon. So if people wanna see us do our live podcast, , well we're on his podcast. We're a guest this time, so around

 We're a guess. 

 I forgot the address. ,

 Is it 12? It says it starts at 11. No, no, no. The festival's at 11. 

 gonna be talking at 12.

I think.

 We're gonna be talking at 12. Yep.

 later on this month we got the podcast in 1 0 1, part two with a

partnership with

 the, at the library.

 Library, the main location, assembly Street.

 Mm-hmm.

 , at one 30

to three 30, we'll be talking about the podcast. And if you wanna start your own podcast, tips and tricks, what to do and what not to do, what equipment to buy. How to organize,

build your structure, what platforms to use, et cetera. And I think that's, is that it? Oh yeah. You know, the weekly, we got the Create Talks projects dropping every Friday on our

Patreon, 

 Yep.

 Mm-hmm.

 subscribe to that.

 oh, oh yeah, this week, this past week was Amar Gamble, so this week will be the lyrical maze

 I'll.

 since I watched. Yep. So those, yeah. Yep. So let her know. And note for those people who are gonna go online and listen to it, like I say, either through our Patreon page, which we're trying to promote,

please subscribe

to our Patreon channel.

If you like all this amazing stuff that we're

doing and you wanna see us grow, it's $5 a month. You can do that. We spend $5 on useful, useless things all

 We be tricking that $5 off on some e and J, a couple of Swiss rolls, sweets, and some Mickeys. Especially I especially if you eat Taco Bell. Come on. Come on. You don't

 breakfast,

 bell.

 and then, , just, just getting our sponsorship up.

 Yeah.

 know,

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 getting your money's worth for $150 and who knows, that price might not be the same next season, so you might as well get it while you.

 Yeah.

 Say

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 today's

 yesterday's price.

 So get it while you can early. 

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 We on everything right now.

We hot like pancakes,

 Yeah.

Hot White P, that's it. Yo. Yo. That's what we run away. We gotta put that on a 

 merch. Merch is coming.

 Yeah. Merch. So about the merch.

Yo, I need to get the link for the merch so I can order something. Tamaya. I need you to send me that. Yeah. Send me, yeah. Yeah.

 Oh,

as a matter of. 

 Go ahead. Go ahead.

 a bag, so that should come in this week right here, like a draw string bag like you can wear to the gym. They got all

our faces on it. When you see the merch, you can be like, dang tam on it, because we.

 You know what I may do? I think everybody gonna get Christmas. I'm right

 Yeah.

 merch.

 For real.

 Seriously. I know because it's gotta, it's wrong with the quality. Quality's good, man. It's good merch.

 hat. Yeah.

 you see the hat, y'all see the, you see the merch. You see the quality of emergency? The merch look good. See that merch is beautiful.

You know you want some of that merch? That merch right there. Look at Juicy and ready to roll.

 I, I know, I thought I had my, , mug, but Mugs and dishwasher,

 That's all right. That's all. Nah, it looks good.

 But you know, I gotta get you guys some mugs this year. I gotta get you guys, , , some gifts for your work. So I get you guys mugs. I'll do that this month so you guys can all have, he talk well

most so we can be sitting around looking like

 Yep.

 show, Yeah. Had a cups on, mugs on table. I gotta make sure they're, , I don't wanna make, because I thought about getting some the same color. I was like, well, if I get 'em all the same color, what happens if somebody forgets the mug? They start drinking that other person mug

 Wait, could you make a special where they have our names 

 Yeah, we.

 you. Yeah,

 Yeah. We'll just put our name on our mug.

 Yeah, that'll work. Yeah, because I thought about it. I was like, man, I

 We could start being real bougie. And every time somebody comes on our comes on the show in person, we give 'em a mug with, with water to drink and they take it with them. And that, that way we send our merch with them wherever they go.

 Yeah,

 That's a good, that's a, that's that's a

flex

 more sponsorship for that though.

 yeah, you're right. You're right. Because that's gonna be, that's expensive. 

 Yeah. 

 All right. Somebody's got it here and go bother 'em.

 other than that, we can go ahead. Other than that, we can go ahead and wrap up.

 All right, well shoot. Let's wrap up. , well, as we always do, since this is one of our episodes, we gotta ask, , what y'all got. Y'all already talked about what you got upcoming, right?

  📍  📍 Yeah.

 Yep. You told 'em where to find ,you at, right? Okay. Other than that, , the only thing I can say is, , well, I wanna say thank you for all the people who have been supporting us over these last, , three seasons.

, we, yeah man. Yeah, man. We look to see many more and also, , going into this , I'm trying to tell y'all man, I wanna pay attention to see what we're doing. 'cause we have some really big things on the horizon. Things that are going to captivate and keep you focused in on what we have coming out because we do not wanna lose you all.

We wanna make sure that you are, , Learning and getting something from what we have to offer. But at the same time, we do wanna make it fun and exciting because sometimes things are quite dull and drab out here, and we don't want to be those people who are just like, droning information into you. It's gonna be well worth the ride while you're on the journey.

So, , I know I wanna sign off, , from the Hilltop Podcast. This is our season three recap. , I know Mike's not here, but shouts out to Mike. Family, et cetera. We always appreciate our, our brother and what he does, , for our team, , Tamaya, skip,

 Yep.

 dj and what, like I always like to tell, say to y'all, man, tell somebody next to you that next to you that you love them, , you cherish them.

And we will see you all on the next episode of the Hilltop Globe Podcast.

 Thank you

guys. 

 Please.

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