SPEAKER_01 1:48

Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Hill Top Glove Podcast. Today's episode is going to be an exciting one as we have the pleasure of speaking with Mula Da Vinci, a rapper from Georgetown, South Carolina. Mula DaVinci is not only a talented music artist, but he's also an entrepreneur. Speaking of which, he does have a record, a label called Big Da Vinci ENT. He is growing, his growing popularity is evident by his 24,000 plus subscribers on YouTube and 9,000 followers on Instagram. It's no surprise that he is consistently consistent at dropping new songs every month. And his latest release, Johnny Gill, has already received 15,000 plus views on YouTube. You can also check out his website, Dirty South Calabasas, to see new releases of shirts and hoodies. Make sure to subscribe and follow Moolah on all platforms and check out his music on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify. Thank you for joining us today. How are you doing, my brother? Great.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

How y'all doing today?

SPEAKER_03 2:44

We're doing good.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Excellent, excellent. Blessed feeling.

SPEAKER_03 2:46

It's kind of mysterious finding some information about you. So we're gonna be asking you like all the questions. I'm like, I can't find so much information. So I'm like, okay, that means we gotta grill you, even though hot is a good idea. Yeah, this makes a good interview, though.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yeah, that's what we like. It's gonna make a good interview. Yeah, I was definitely looking forward to coming out here and talking to y'all.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

So let's do it. Excellent, excellent. Well, first of all, um, I want to thank you for giving us some of your nice merch. Yeah, we're definitely gonna rock that. Um, the next time I told you this, or the next time I go play basketball, there's some guys I got beef with. Um, I'm gonna be wearing your bands, and when I score points, I'm gonna pop it. Yeah, 30 South Calabasas.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

They're like, what is going on here?

SPEAKER_01 3:22

But yeah, we will represent because of course, uh just another um disclaimer. I know we do have family members and friends in Georgetown, South Carolina, so it's always nice to speak to people that are making waves and coming from locations and locales that we are from. Um always like to say it's nice to speak to uh like-minded individuals but familiar folks. So sometimes we speak straight like complete strangers. In this situation, it doesn't feel like that. Right. So that's that's gonna be excellent.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

And um I'm gonna look to Mike ahead and so tell us a little bit about yourself for people that don't know you.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Uh man, so Joey Town, that's like the county that I'm from, but I'm from like this little area called North Santee. Okay. So it's like uh, you know, like a lot of woods, little rural area, you know, and just growing up, man, it was fun. Like I was just talking to our homeboy about that last week when I went home. Like, we used to really be outside, like how everybody be like, we outside nowadays. Really outside, you know what I'm saying? From like eight, eight o'clock. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, mama fussing, like, make sure you brush your teeth before you get out of the house, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, you know, like man, so just playing outside all day, playing sports, coming back in the house, dirty, bruised up, you know, that was my childhood man. Being outside, having a good time, you know, um, riding bikes all over. And then, you know, that that just went from that to fast forward to me playing sports in school. Um, and what particular sports? Yeah. Play uh basketball and football.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Basketball was in middle school. Okay. Then when I got to uh high school, I did football only because I didn't want to do basketball or conditioning. The conditioning.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

That's conditioning put me into shape. I don't know why. That year.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

Yeah. But they used to like drag us, you know. My coach Bucks used to drag us. So I was like, you know what? For me not to do that, I'ma just go play football. And they and they dragged me even worse. And so, but I ended up being good because you know, we used to play like in the backyard, you know, no shoes on and stuff. So you're tough. You know, shooting that I was already primed up. So uh by the time I got there and showed my skills, I'm like, man, I might as well just keep playing. So I played all the way up through high school.

SPEAKER_01 5:34

What positions you play?

SPEAKER_00 5:35

Wide receiver from ninth to 11th and 12th. I played wide receiver and tight end. Wow. Yeah. So you must have bulked up that's the year. Yeah, about George Son High School. Okay, okay. Yep, yeah. George Shawn High, you know. Uh, but high school was dope for me, you know. Of course, with the sports, but like my ninth grade year, that's when I start like rapping. Okay. So uh that that like the the lunchroom battles, you know, the uh cyphers all man. The ciphers went crazy, like the homeboy beating on the table, and we just going in like that point. You had people skipping lunch to come to a certain lunch to see the cipher. Like I don't even know. People were skipping lunch because we yeah, we can handle phones and nothing. You had to be there, you had to be there, yeah. You had to be there. So it's certain it's certain battles and ciphers that's like still legendary from back home. So, you know, that was like my childhood in a nutshell, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Any siblings?

SPEAKER_00 6:34

Yeah, I got a brother and a sister. Older older than you, yeah. She's still the child.

SPEAKER_03 6:40

You the baby, like child sticks, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:43

But nah, they didn't really made none. So I was the one making it. Oh they left you with no roadmap. They like, that we clean. My brother and sister, they was like good. Like my sister was just good, you know, good in school, good behavior. My brother, he was just like smart mouth, but he was good in school, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 7:02

So you can get away with it.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

Yeah, so but like me, I ain't got nothing to learn from because you know, they both being good in school. So when I get there, you know, I'm the one always got parent teacher conference. I'm always just in the principal office, you know, police coming knocking at the door, all that stuff, man. It was crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

I ain't never get to see nobody else bump their head.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

So it's one bump of the head, man.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

It was just like, well, I guess I gotta learn, but I learned early though. Like I'm glad I got it out early because all of that taught me like when I became an adult, it became legal, like, yo, you can't be getting in trouble like this. They lock up, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 7:41

They trying to scare you in high school, like this is gonna be on your permanent record. Right. No, when you get away from the city. You really got a real record.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Right. Right, right. Of course, finished up high school, you started um MCing at in the ninth grade. When did you start taking it to the point where you're like, okay, you're still MCing and rapping when you left as a senior? Did you decide that you want to do that as a as your goal? Or were you like, hey, I want to try something else? And then you end it back up in.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Oh, well, I ended up trying something else. So afterwards, like, so like I said, I was getting into like a lot of trouble in high school, like police type trouble. Like, so I just was always self-aware of what I should do. So I had sports uh scholarships to go to play basketball and football, but my grades were so horrible I could only get junior scholarships. So I said, you know what? I feel like if I do that with the route that I'm already going, knowing what I'm doing, I'm already, you know, smoking the drinking, doing the wrong thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm about to go to school and just do the wrong thing. So why do that when I'm already aware that's that's what I'm gonna do? And I've seen so many stars from the hometown, basketball stars, football stars go to school for people. And they just come right back on home and they just don't do nothing. So I'm like, do I want to do that? Or go go do something for myself. And so then that's when I went and joined the military.

SPEAKER_03 9:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Wow, wow, can I say wow?

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Yeah, I didn't see that coming. Can I say this? That's not the record. I didn't see none of that on this video.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

Yo, you are on you are on brand for today's topic. Like, we already, so whenever we have these interviews, right? We always tell people, like, for some reason there's a string that runs through everything. So we spoke earlier with Chef J, whose space we are in right now, Celeb Studios. I need to check it out over here on O'Neal Court. I'm gonna make sure I um shout out this information later. But just so y'all know, her contact number is 803-687-9058. So I don't have to read it backwards. So if you need to contact her about a space to come to and do your um events, um if you have some uh things that you want to do, parties, etc. Otherwise, bridal shows and all that stuff. Dope spot. Dope spot. But one thing she talked about um was the ability for folks to have um awareness of what they're doing and then also to be responsible for their actions. That like she said, that threw me for a loop.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

I didn't know that you you were really aware. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like my parents, like my parents didn't want me to go. Like my pop, she was like, he like super anti-military, because you know, he like studied a nation of Islam like that. Like, like he in the nation of Islamic moms. Moms, you know what I'm saying? She she a uh a Christian woman and she like she don't want her baby to go type somebody. You know what I'm saying? He gonna he gonna get blown up and die, you know what I'm saying? So, but I was like, listen, I damn near rather blow up and die than to come back and have to stay here, you know. Cause it's it's like it's bad out there. Like, it's bad. Like I just went home last week and you just see so much of the same repetitiveness, you know what I'm saying? So I just like I ain't wanted to get stuck in it. So um, I just had to make that decision for myself, and An was happy with me. But I just always did what I wanted to do. Like at the same time, like I always was like, Well, when did you get that?

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Um and this is all I just want to understand this because we don't normally have people coming. First of all, you were basically being a self-actualized human at that time, and you understood what's going on as a young person that hey, I'm already doing these things. If I go to this JUCO, I'm gonna be bringing these bad habits, which means that I'm gonna get sent home from the JUCO. I'm not even gonna be able to get to that next level and be stuck here. What caught your eye to say, you know what? Military is a good option.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Um I always was observant, and uh one of my homies that I used to get in trouble with, he went. Oh, and um he made something of himself by that time. That was a good thing. And then I seen that and I'm like, you know what? Out of all the people I used to look up to, he the only one that got something going on. He the only one that got motion. He got a car, he got a crib, he he's smiling every day, he still got his hand, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's great, you know. It seemed like it seemed like the most stress he does just gotta get up for PT in the morning, you know. And that's good stress, right? Right. So I'm like, you know what? I like that path, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think the sports is gonna work out for me, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 12:09

So but a lot of kids need to hear that though. They need to because that's their only option in their mind is sports, right? Or rapping, yeah, so it's good that you are the one to tell them, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Like, yeah, yeah. Like ain't nothing wrong with like taking a uh uh turn it route, turn it around and using it as a stepping stone, you know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, like you're still young, 17, 18, you got a long life to live. So you don't even gotta do no 20 years. You can go in there for a couple years, set yourself to success. Use that as a stepping stone, get out, you know what I'm saying? And while you in, you can be networking, figuring out what you can do when you get out, yeah, and going on. Learning job skills, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 12:46

And so, what type of skills did you learn while being a military that you didn't already have?

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Networking. Oh, that's so important. That's powerful. Because we were talking about this earlier, um communication skills for for young folks. Because of course, I always like to say this our podcast is about this for millennials to teach us um and show us ways to be better suited to be professional and run our own business and be successful and to like not hit the same um pitfalls that other people hit. Because a lot of us, we don't have anybody that gave us a handbook that says, This is how you win. Right. We don't. And and and we don't have a lot of folks who reach back to tell us and give us this information. So uh one of our main objectives with this podcast is to make sure that we create our own digital roller decks of stuff that you can go look back at. Someone can come and listen to your podcast and say, Hey, I'm from Georgetown. I was in that same situation. I think I might be on that path. Might be a good idea for me to go and join this here, and then that way I can learn what I need to do, and then from there use it as a springboard. Right. You don't have to be like a career military person, but use it as a springboard to get to where I want to be at. So um, and that's what Tamaya was was harping on is the fact that they need to hear it from the horse's mouth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:53

So like some people want to go back to their school and perform. Yeah, but I don't care to do that. Like, I'd rather go back and talk soon, like say something to them, you know what I'm saying? Like the performing joint be cool. Yeah, but like motivational speaking. Like too big on that, you know what I'm saying? Especially like a lot of music that I be probably even saying or stuff that I be saying, they don't even need to be the first time for them, you know what I'm saying? Unless I got a friendly song for them. But other than that, like the main thing, I would rather just go out there, just holler at them, you know, because I've been them, like I've been in that situation. Yeah, like I've been at the worst, you know what I'm saying? Like I've been in trouble, I've been, you know what I'm saying, in sports, I've been doing all that. So ain't really nothing that they did that I ain't done already. So it's just like I can make a way, I know you can.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

So it's valuable for them to hear that from you. Um because your words are like go back.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Because, like I said, first of all, to get to see you, and this is one of my big things is uh David Bannon is big about this. He's like, hey, they can tell you all day long that they have to do something. But until they can see that you yourself are a successful person, it's not gonna matter. So, like you're right. You don't need to go back and rap to them.

SPEAKER_03 15:00

Yeah, it's not gonna be that way. You don't have to, it don't matter.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Yeah, the fact that you go back and you show how you're looking, you show how your family's looking, you show how you're taking care of yourself and you just go talk to them, those words are far more uh um important than them here hearing you rip down 16. Right, right. Which is dope. They can go do that on their own. Yeah, yeah. They can go buy yourself, listen to it on their own, get some. But you go in and giving that that that speech to them, that's something that they can't purchase from you.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Right. And I feel like just in the long run, like they'll subscribe to the music better and even more, or would want to even more than me just come in a just rap in a uh gymnasium and preach. You know what I'm saying? They'll be like, actually, instead of just paying attention, it'll be like the retention, like at that point. Yeah, yeah, word is suggesting. Yeah, you're right, they're gonna retain it. Like they'll be like, I actually want to subscribe and follow this person. Like I don't want to just listen to their music, like I want to like be like that person. You know what I'm saying? And like for me growing up, I like used to just like, man, I want to be like that person, you know what I'm saying? Not that I really care for their music, it just that person right there is doing that. I like that person's persona like that. Right. And they don't have a lot of that.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

Who inspired you growing up? Like who influenced you or what music did you listen to growing up?

SPEAKER_00 16:15

Uh growing up, I was more so, well, just to start off on a local base, because I always started like listening to the music to the people that was in my neighborhood. That's right. Um the person that really inspired me to let me know that it's possible to do music at a local at that point was my cousin DJ Biggs. Like he from uh Augusta, God bless the dead, and like like he actually made a whole CD. Like, I'm like, dang, you can actually do that. Like, you know, we didn't have access to the world like how it is now. So you thought like everything was like so mystique and you had to go through a big label. Right, right. You gotta go through a big label to make yeah, like you gotta get signed and make a song. I'm like, you made a song, you made a whole CD with like 10 songs. I'm like, oh, so this is possible. Yeah, yeah. You know, so we went from that to you know the uh local celebrities like my cousin Poopy, Skylar George, DJ Dynamite. He was actually a uh big, big person in our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? So uh just getting all that inspiration from them kind of motivated me to want to dive into music.

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Excellent. I can't even lie, that's some good pedigree. I mean, the fact that you were paying attention, I always tell people please pay attention to local artists. Um it's nice to hear the national artists and the folks that are being pushed on the bringing stuff, but the local artists, man, that helps the life blood of the community. Right. Um and I like that you pointed out that those are the people that you were influenced by. Um specifically, like when it comes to the way that you that you spit and how you rap, were there is there anybody in particular out of that group that you said, hey, I like their style and I'm gonna grow that style or build off of it.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Nah, I know that that group, nah, they just was like they actually rap totally different. Like mine. That's what I'm wondering. Because then DJ Biggs, like he probably sound like Pastor Troy, you know what I'm saying? Like something like that, you know, because he's from Augusta too. So, you know, he probably kind of got that vibe from Pastor. But uh, and then my uh people from my local area, it wasn't how they was rapping, it was about what they was rapping about. Like yeah, like what they was rapping about, I'm seeing like every day. Like they're talking about how it's going on in the country, what's going on, and the fiends walking around, and you know, like they they they sing the names of the fiends, and like I know these fiends, you know what I mean? Like they well known, right? Like they come, they brand names, they brand name, right? Right, like they come out there and break the yard, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like for real.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Like, I can't even lie, I know that's right. I know it's right.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Like, man, my moms would tell me, like, see, because I always was like, I I had it again, but she'll go to work, and that's when like family, like parents to leave you home back in the day, you know, you can't really trust the kids to stay home like at a certain age, but like we was staying home early, like seven years old. So she'd be like, uh, go outside and rape. I'd be like, okay, she'll go to work, get the fiend to do it, pay him a little five dollars, and then have that joint done, and by the time she gets home, everything done. You know, they got good working, right? Right, and the car, right? Wash the car, you know what I'm saying? Like, all that, you know what I'm saying? So with them talking about all that, I'm like, yo, this is like crazy, cuz it makes sense, you know what I'm saying? Like this is real, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

See, oh my lord.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

I am good.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

I just think every episode you gotcha, you gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

She tries to forget your own.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

And I tell her, I was like trying to guess people's fine. I'm like, he's real observant. Yeah, but I'm like, he gotta be a Gemini.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

That's crazy. You good.

SPEAKER_03 19:47

Yeah. I got to my own.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

You just go turn that corner, man. Let's go right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 20:02

Right.

SPEAKER_02 20:03

What you want? What you want? Real man. Nah, it sounds like a lot. I keep telling her, you know, she's creepy, man.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

You already know.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

I'm gonna be worried. I'm gonna be worried. I actually don't know.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

No, I don't do none of that.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Okay. Some chicken bones move, I know who to call it. Right. Uh so I so with that being said, your your the style of art and how you um make your music, uh, what do you think what what what pushed you or or guided you to say, hey, I like this sound to beat. I like how this sounds, I want my voice to sound this way, et cetera. And the reason why I'm asking this is because a lot of folks um who come from anywhere near the coast in South Carolina already know we have a really big um cultural um emphasis on the Geechee culture and how we talk, etc. And my brother and I, we were um actually on the way in and we were talking about it because um, of course, living in in Charleston, and um, I live downtown for a long time on the east side, right? And I'm gonna fold back to green and everything like that. I'm used to hearing certain things.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

You don't talk like this.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

You know, but he talked like that. Yeah, and I like it, right? And so like you don't hear it, you don't hear it for a while, you'd be like, man, I miss this.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

And so we were listening to this comedian, and he was like, he's from he's from North Chuck. And he was up here talking, you know, putting these little things, these funny things together.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

We're listening, like, yeah, man, I forget people say stuff like that. They'd be like, time. And the boy's like, yo, I got that pressure. Right. I'm like, yo, I ain't heard that in such a long time, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Yeah. So how did you decide, all right, I'm gonna sound like this. I want to have this, like, what how did you make your sound? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Um, I would say, really, based off of the me, the like the artists that I used to listen to. Like, I ain't used to listen to um Charleston artists, to be honest, like that. That's what I'm wondering. Like, yeah, not a lot of them. Like, it was certain ones, it comes through certain ones that have come through and that I would be interested in, but I was more so interested in like the way up north people was telling these.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

That's why I was interacting because I'm like, yo, you don't like it, like how they wrap it.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Yeah, like Jay-Z, Beanie Seagull, Nas. I love beans, beans, fab. Nas, tough, tough. You know, like a lot of up up north type, type word vibe, you know what I'm saying? Wordplay, like the way they would exactly like the way they would make something and turn it into something. That's the vibe I hear from you. And they tell a story, right?

SPEAKER_03 22:27

They tell us full story.

SPEAKER_00 22:28

Right, the videos, all that. So uh that kind of molded me into saying, okay, yeah, I kind of want to make my style like this, you know what I'm saying? And I know it's not the popular Carolina little country sound, but you know, I don't feel like I need to do that. You know what I'm saying? Like they ain't like my comfort. Like, like, man, my comfort is just doing it the way that I want to do it. And I feel like people uh follow suit.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

Oh yeah, and I think people are gravitating towards it, obviously. And uh another question based on that is um your experience being in service. Did when you were in the service, did you meet or run into any of your service members that you were with that kind of helped like influence that that sound and that taste of music? Did did you at that time let them know that you at that time were artists or that you were MC?

SPEAKER_00 23:15

No. Oh, for real? I threw that whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

He was like, I'm focused.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

It was just too much. I couldn't focus on both things, like for real. Like like my whole focus was just like being in the military, like like being in better, really like just trying to level myself up as a person, like not nothing extra. I was still hooping, um, but that was it. Like I wasn't rapping, I just didn't have no time, like for real, especially like the job I did. I would have to stay at work late, you know. So it just took me getting out.

unknown 23:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

And I went to school, graduated from school. What you graduated with?

SPEAKER_04 23:57

What did you graduate for?

SPEAKER_00 23:58

I went to school for logistics, and that's what I did in the military. Oh, okay. So I did logistics in the military. Then I went to school for it when I got out. Okay. Got a degree in that. And then now I'm chilling. I'm like, man, you know what? I'm like 26 at this point. Yeah. I'm like, man, you know what? I wouldn't mind getting into a real studio. Like I always had, like, you know, the the uh MP3 player we used to record off of, you know what I'm saying? Y'all don't remember that. Look, y'all don't remember that.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

You know, Frost K, he remember this. We, yes, that's how we used to get it down.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

MP3 player with the sock on it, yes, you know, and put that in the closet. Yes, you know what I'm saying, and rap on that. So I'm like, man, I ain't never like been in the official studio. So I'm like, I got a couple dollars in my pocket now. Let me go book something, you know. Yeah, and that's just from there, I just never stop. So you became basically you know, people become gym rats, you became a studio rat. Yeah, yeah. From right then on out, I'm like, oh man, this what it this is what it is. Or you could put an effect on my voice to do that. It's that easy, like echo and not what? Like, like I'm just like mind-blown by the little things they can do and the aesthetic of the studio. I'm like, man, this is amazing. Like, this is what it feels like. Right. You go into a real studio, yeah. It hit different definitely than being in that closet.

SPEAKER_02 25:18

So the closet be hot and sweating and stuff like that, it goes into your eyes my part.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Where did you get like your confidence from to like perform and like do your music?

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Uh repetition. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like that took some repetition because I was used to talking in front of people, but performing was a little different. Um, so I started like at the bottom of the bottom when it came to performing like my first performance. Man, it was like a drunk man at the bar sleeping. You know what I'm saying? Probably was like the people playing darts in the back, you know what I'm saying? Talking about. Right, right. And I'm just up there like, okay, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just stiff as a board up there, man. For real. But you know, it took that to keep going in different places and different venues and different crowds and vibes to that just build where I'm at now. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate all that. You remember the name of the place? Joe's Underground in Augusta, Georgia. Oh, the Joe's Underground. Joe's Underground.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Because you have to have somebody give you a chance.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Right, right. I can't lie. Like the guy wrote me back on Facebook, like, because I seen something about performance. It's like, you know, with your phones and stuff, when you start talking, certain stuff starts popping up on your phone. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not the algorithms are really. But every time I say money, then money don't come in my bank account. But I'm gonna keep saying, I'm gonna keep saying it because money. I mean, they move out. Yeah, right. So uh, but like, yeah, so I'm just talking about performing with somebody and the joint across my Facebook, performing at uh perform at Joe's Underground for free. I'm like, whoa, let me reach out and see. You know what I'm saying? Just on some just typing and I typed and he hit me back the next day, like, yeah, you want to come perform? Got a uh set time and all that, boom, boom, boom, and we got it done. Solid.

SPEAKER_01 27:09

Man, I again I I want our audience to hear that because they always wonder, again, how do you do this? How is it done? Sometimes I tell people, you just kind of go and bust your behind. Like you don't have to be perfect first time. And like you said, you went up there, you weren't extremely fluid and ready to go, but you go up there first time, get those jitters out as you keep hitting it. I love the word you use again. Great word usage, man. Repetition. You have to that repetition is gonna breed that success, it's gonna give you that ability to go out to be persistent. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 27:39

So, as a uh an artist, would you rather your fans stream your music or download your music? If I had to answer that, I always have to ask this question because I don't know. Streaming or downloading, like you know, everybody's different.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

I would rather you buy from me. Buy like I would rather speak. I would rather you go on band camp and and and let me reap 80 to 90 percent of the record than to you to scream it and then I get a piece of a penny. A piece, yeah. A piece of a penny.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Like 50,000 downloads, and you only get $18.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Right. But if you if you buy it directly from me, you know what I'm saying? That's that's that's more of a support, because now I get to reinvest that into making better music for you to love instead of depending, but not necessarily the uh depending, but if we just talking about that question, depending on uh a piece of a penny to reinvest, you know what I'm saying? I would say just buy directly from me.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Yeah, and and I I tell people, and this is really really good um point to make, um that the music industry right now is in that weird space where technology has outpaced the understanding of the fan to where the fan doesn't understand what their influence is on the industry.

SPEAKER_03 29:00

Yeah, that's why I asked them because some people don't know.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

They don't know. Right. So, like if we can start doing a better job of educating the fans and let them know, hey man, I know you like Spotify or you like um title, whatever it is, it gives you access to music and it's cool because it's streaming. Um, the generation that we grew up out of, we're gonna go buy a CD.

SPEAKER_04 29:19

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Even if it was digital, I'm gonna buy the digital copy of it and get the CD later. Because people forget back in the day is what you used to do. You can get a CD or album and they will give you the digital to go with it. Right. Um and the thing they don't realize is the reason why that was so important is it allows for that artist to then have time to give you better art and it gives them time to experience life and give you a better um piece of material so that when they go out and they perform and they're doing their tours and stuff like that, you're gonna they're gonna have a better show because they have more money to invest into the show, they're gonna have more money into invest into the life. And um, I heard somebody talking about this recently. Um, it's just the fact that people don't realize I hear like the guy said, and this is Professor Griff from Public Enemy. He's just like, man, put this album out. He said, please don't stream it. Don't stream this album. Go buy it. You're gonna get an extra three um uh tracks if you go and buy it. It only costs this much money. That's actually cheaper than you go and buying two cups of coffee from Starbucks. Right. And that was my point. I was like, yeah, I don't even drink Starbucks. F that, I'm gonna go buy this album.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

So, like when you say that and you have a band camp, oh my lord, I'm gonna go and I'm just gonna go buy your album now.

SPEAKER_04 30:23

Right.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Um, because it makes more sense. And that that money goes directly into your pocket. Right. Um, I really don't want people to think that I'm against the streaming platform. Right, right. Definitely not. Use them, use them because sometimes you don't have access to pull out certain music. You may be somewhere where you don't have that music at hand and you need to stream it, right? Right. But make sure you put something in the in the artist's pockets.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

I would say uh, if anything, you know, go on YouTube and exactly. I give you.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

Everything else after that. It's like you got a list of blueprint. All right, start here. Start here meet me here.

SPEAKER_00 31:00

Yeah now, now outside of that, definitely band camp number one. But for screaming purposes, if you don't wanna, if you don't want to do the band camp vibe, you know what I'm saying? That's understand. I ain't forcing you, but if you want to just scream it, then you know, check out my YouTube channel, do that, subscribe first. It's better for you. You know what I'm saying? Then, you know what I'm saying, you get the notifications of whenever I'm dropping all of that, you know, do your Spotify, your Apple Music. Because I ain't against none of the screaming platforms, you know what I'm saying? I appreciate every platform that they give us to put music on so we can just put it out for the world. You know what I'm saying? That's yeah, it's it's definitely some form of exposure, but you know, definitely that that uh that band can't support hit a little different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

And you gotta let people be honest, yeah, let people know that because I tell folks one of the coolest things that exists, and this is why how they're supposed to be used, people don't realize this, are the playlists. Playlists are supposed to expose you to music so that you can then go and patron the artist. You aren't supposed to live off a playlist. And this is what people don't realize. What happened though is that people started living off the playlist. So when I hear a playlist and I hear something, I'm like, yo, that thing hitting. I'm gonna go to that artist site, I'm gonna subscribe, I'm gonna get the information. They got something for sale, put my little $5 down, get it, whatever it is, pay it, $8, pay it, $9, pay it. And then I went ahead and made sure I'm supporting the artist. I can listen, I'm gonna listen to the rest of their catalog, rest of their music. And the cool thing is nowadays, unlike back in the day, and this is what's crazy, because we used to buy the albums back in the day, you get so much more when you buy an album now. You get access to all kinds of things. You can follow them. Sometimes people do um content for you. You can get access to percentages off on certain merchandise, et cetera. Like they can do all kinds of other things now. Um back in the day, we were just buying albums just so we could listen to music, and we're happy with it. So um I'm happy that she put that question there because this is something we don't normally get to talk to musicians, and and the one thing um we always like to explain on this podcast is how to make yourself um financially viable and successful because it's important. You can't just be out here be not be able to take care of yourself in your life.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

People want to support you, you know? Like, I need your support. Do this, I'm gonna tell you what the deal.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

So, like going back to your YouTube, so how do you grow your YouTube? Because you got a lot of f followers and subscribers, both YouTube and Instagram. I was like, dang, I'm I don't look at the numbers. I'm like, dang, like it's bubbling up. Yeah. So what's the what's the trick?

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Quality content and consistency. That's it. You know what I'm saying? If you if you feed in the beast, then it's gonna work out for you. If you consistently feed in the beast, it's gonna work out, you know what I'm saying? You just gotta continue to put creative quality content on your channel. And um I feel like it'll just organically happen that way. Like, like they'll they'll come. You know what I'm saying? If you just keep feeding that algorithm, as they say. Right.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

So do you are you your own team or do you have people to reach out to to help with the content?

SPEAKER_00 33:53

I can never do this on my own. Okay, all right. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? I can never do this on my own. I got I got a whole creative team, um, you know, shot by Nino, 420 Visuals, John Terrier Productions, you know, Star Child Films. Those are like my content creators, you know, videographers, business partners, all that good stuff. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Yeah, everybody has that. Everybody got a job. So it's important for people to hear that the organizational route of it. Sometimes that can be missed when you're looking at uh artists who are blowing up and getting bigger. It's like, wow, it's just happening. No, it doesn't just happen. Right. There's mechanisms and things that are going on behind the scenes that help things push forward, and it's good for them to hear that so they can understand the realistic thing.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, realistically, you can't do it, like you shouldn't do this by yourself. There's no way you can actually do it by yourself. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna burn out. You're gonna burn out. Like we watch people do it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 34:51

We were like that at one point. Yeah, we were like, look, look, look at us. We was like that. Look at this right, that guy right back there.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not fun. You need help setting up all the lights, yeah, all of the cameras, and all of that stuff, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Contacting people, they got these stickers on everything when everything looking a certain way, yeah. How's all this happening? Right. That's not a team. You have to have a team, you gotta have people help you. Facts. Yeah, don't do it.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

What about um like your favorite collaboration that you've done so far?

SPEAKER_00 35:22

Um, I would just say off recent uh Kid Kid. Hey. Yeah, yeah. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Why'd you like it so much? What was the vibe? How do you like it?

SPEAKER_00 35:32

The vibe, like, like it was the fact that like I came in prepared. Like, I always come prepared, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's an easy vibe with him, but when I'm coming to like like to uh uh record with an artist, I like to have stuff kind of prepared, you know what I'm saying? I don't like to just go in there and just be like, yeah, I'm about to freestyle off the top of my head and whatever we come up with, that's what it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

Like, don't wing it, people. Do not wing it.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

I know it's been promoted. But no, yeah, everybody ain't the same.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

If you ain't you stick, don't you?

SPEAKER_00 36:02

So the fact that I came prepared and I let him go first. Well, I wish he wanted to go first because when he heard the beat, he like, I'm going in. I'm like, I ain't gonna stop the momentum, you know what I'm saying? Because I was gonna go in and set the tone for him to be like, okay, this is what you can feed off of, you know what I'm saying? Just to just, you know, do that. But he was like, I'm going in. And the fact that he rapped about the same context that I rapped about, like the same type of things, like he said something about his grandma, and my joint said something about my grandma.

SPEAKER_04 36:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

Like, what? Like, this is crazy. And he had no idea what I'm about to say. And it's like, we ain't said the exact same thing, but it's like it just was like equally yoked. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's called serendipity, right? Yeah, you didn't know anything to happen. You know what I'm saying? And I I guess he heard the beat and he heard what I heard.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

And can't tell people like the music, it does speak to you.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

You just gotta be open to listening. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

So shout out to Kid Kidd, and that's one of my partners too. You know what I'm saying? Like outside of this music, you know what I'm saying? He's a real solid individual from a personal standpoint.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

So I got much respect for Bruh. That's good, man. That's good. I always like to hear that, man, especially um when you're working with people uh in the creative aspect. I always think it's good to build um relationship. Like you said, it goes back to what you're saying earlier, network.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Right. See, because I've been around Bruh like three, four times, and we ain't never even talk about no music for real, for real. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't really cared about that, you know. I'm like, if it happened, it happened, you know what I'm saying? But like he was just a solid individual, so I just appreciated that because you don't meet too much of them, no, you don't know. Especially people who got like uh uh resume like his, you know what I'm saying? Been on uh uh uh Young Money with Low Wayne, Squad Up Days, G Unit, been on power. That's my point.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

Yeah, he's been up Oh yeah, he's been all the way around. That's why when he's yeah, I already knew. I was like, I wonder how that how it was working with him.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Like I even think that um some Miss Officer got like a Grammy or something, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 38:04

So it's just like words, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

All that you would think somebody might be Hollywood or want to act Hollywood, the ego, the ego, but nah, bro, just like he really relaxed and chill. So I just appreciated that from you know what I'm saying, and and the music just ended up happening. So my dog.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

Man, I'm so happy to hear that good story, especially with everything that's happening in the music industry right now. It's nice to hear good stories. I'm not even gonna speak on the one thing that I want to speak on, but yeah, uh, yeah, you already know I was talking about before. But yeah, it's good to hear good stories because like I tell people like there are stories, actually. Yes, there are, but there are legitimate, like like good stories. I'm like, I wish the the the good stories and the way that business and the work should be done, because it's an industry. When I tell people that, I mean, like you have a manufacturing auto industry, you have a food industry, et cetera. There are people who are professionals and they do their their work like you should, like it should be done. And right, I think those people should be applauded and they should be raised up, you should be able to see them, and you know, people ain't doing their work right, you know what I'm saying? Right. Right, right, right. You know? For sure. Um, this is a really good question, and I like this because you you're you look like you're on point right now.

SPEAKER_04 39:13

Right. Totally branding.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Yeah, branding your branding, creating a brand. Yeah. Can you um tell us about the process of creating your brand, Dirty South Calabasas, and explain any hardships you face in the process? Um, I think it's important for our audience to understand that.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Right. Um, well, um, I would say me and my partner um just was like vibing one night, and and it was like they came to me and was like, yo, I want to start up a brand. Like, I think we should start up a brand. And I'm like, yo, that's a good idea. You know what I'm saying? Like, because it makes sense with me being an artist, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, yo, that's that's that's dope. So, you know, we going back and forth with the names and stuff like that. And then it was like, uh, if we need to do something with dirty south, dirty south. And then I think the uh Calabasas ended up coming once. We was like, what's something that we can do to add some elegance and some some good point, some, you know, high taste, high, high level taste to the dirty south. Because when you hear dirty south, you hit you the the world perceives it as some country bumpkin, yeah. Dirty, you know what I'm saying? They got all these bad ideas of dirty south, but when you think of Calabasas, you think of rich, swanky, high taste, you know what I'm saying? Big houses, you know what I'm saying, all of that. So he was like, yo, let's let's let the world see how the how the dirty south really got high taste, you know what I'm saying, but yet still attainable. Oh, like it like come all together. It like that.

SPEAKER_02 40:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Right. And so, and and then we just use the dirty South Calabasas theme as when Andre 3000 went on the the Source Awards and said, Yo, the South got something to say. Very true. So y'all tie that in. So that's just the the the whole vibe of dirty South Calabasas. The South got something to say. So the brand sell itself. It does. Yeah, it does. You know what I'm saying? Good. Yeah, like like I can wear it anywhere. Yeah, anywhere, like anybody can wear it in like like from the high, I mean the rich people, the lower class people, the skateboarders, the anybody, you know what I mean. Kind of like even the the social club at it. Right, right, right, right, right. This is one of the logos, but this one been the like everybody loved this one though. I'm not thinking, man, it looks though. I'm looking at this because I'm like, yo, we buy that at be a part of the social club, you know what I'm saying? Like everybody wants to be a part of the social club. So, what I always felt like, why would I go out there? No disrespect to no other brand, but um, why would I go buy a Gucci shirt when I can wear my own? Or and or at least wear somebody that I locally quote unquote locally rock with, you know. I'm behind you all day with that. Like if my homeboy, like my homeboy Dolo Exotic, like Dolo Money, he got a brand. I just bought something from him. I would rather wear his sweater, yep, my hat, you know what I'm saying? And that way we both promote and the money wearing. Yeah, and the money stay within the people, you know what I'm saying? Circulate with our neighborhoods, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

What does it feel like seeing other people wear your brand?

SPEAKER_00 42:22

That's a good point.

SPEAKER_03 42:24

That's gotta be like we're trying to get to that point.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. I ain't gonna lie, like, especially when like like people like take pictures of it or they use it as their profile pictures. I'd be like, man, we we really came a long way, but like I know the grind it took though at the same time. Like, could you explain a little bit of that so that they can understand like the time and the follow my YouTube channel? If like you subscribe to my moon, my YouTube channel, Moolet DaVinci, go do that right now. Uh you will see like my grind with this brand. So I'm everywhere, New York, Baltimore, Dallas, DC, Philly, Virginia, everywhere out promoting my brand. And my investment was uh treating them like flyers. Oh smart. So, like, just like like like the same way you hand off a fly and be like, yo, follow me. Yeah, here you go. This is my clothing brand, you know what I'm saying? Smart. And and and that just made a lot of people like like it just grew the whole awareness to the brand, like, oh my, what is this dirty South Calabasas? Because it's already like a dope ass name. Name, yeah. So you know what I'm saying? So the people looking like, man, what what is this? What is that? Dirty, yeah. I definitely put it on. And you know, people just started tagging up age and all of that. So, you know, just just traveling across the world, really going to homecomings, flooding the homecomings. Like, we went to uh Hampton Home Homecoming in uh Virginia, and uh man, we we flooded that joint so bad, the like the people was like chasing us almost.

SPEAKER_02 44:07

Like, you know, now it's a great reception, obviously.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Yeah, yeah, like man. Like it went from like us just kind of like, hey, here you go, you look dope, you know what I'm saying? What's your name? You know, because we still try to get to know the people, yeah. And we don't just walk up on them, hey you go, yeah and run off. Yeah, like we try to like get to know the person a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Hey, how you doing? You know what I'm saying? Have a greeting. And um, man, they start from that, and next thing you know, is like everybody's just like next thing you know, we in this crowd, it's like a big circle. Everybody around us, we like, God damn. They're like, Yeah, we're gonna go see this guy. We wanna see what they do out here.

SPEAKER_02 44:41

They're giving out gear. Yeah, what's the gear look like? Look good, yeah, look good.

SPEAKER_00 44:43

And then DJ Envy, uh, uh he was the DJ for that year. Obviously. And like he like promoted it real dope, you know what I'm saying, and was rocking with it. So everybody seeing that, that he had it, and it was like, oh yeah, we gotta get a little piece of that.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

You see how he all right, and this is one of my big things. I always tell um folks in our community, and what I mean by that is of course, community, um, but also in uh black or the southern community, is sometimes we devalue ourselves not realizing that we have worth. It's nice to see when we put value in it. Because you see how DVD JM he put value in it.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Right.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Y'all go in there and working the way you all work, value into it. So the people are like, yo, I gotta get some of that. Right. The way you came in, you treated us today when you came in and get I know there's value in it. So you know what I'm about to go do. I already made sure I'm all followed on everything, right? Right. But also, I'm gonna put I'm gonna take pictures and put on my stuff. You gotta see them. Oh, what's that? I'm gonna get some tag people.

SPEAKER_00 45:36

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 45:37

She's the tag queen.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

Tag you're a little bit the hashtags, the the tags, the all of that. You know what I'm saying? Because that just helps the whole. Brand, you know what I'm saying? So you appreciate all of it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 45:48

So going back to the brand, and how did you actually get your name Da Vinci? Because that I was like, okay, huh? Did somebody give you that name?

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Well, Moolah was my name in high school, just regular Moolah. Um, that was my name from high school, you know what I'm saying? Because I just used to always just kind of be on my little hustle. You know what I'm saying? So, so uh shout out to the homie. He had actually gave me that name. Because you know, when you're from like a small town, yeah, you have like five different nicknames, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you're gonna have a like everybody got a nickname, you know what I'm saying? Some people got like five, and I was one of them. But um, so that was his dad. So everybody called me, like called me Mula already from back home. And uh Da Vinci came because I had a consultation, I'll never forget this. Had a consultation with this uh guy named Carlos Brown. And um this was like when I first started rapping, and he was like Mula, he was like, Mulah sounds boring. Like he was like, it sounded like a cool name as a as a uh nickname, but he was like, it just sounds like a nickname. It'll sound like an artist, like you know, when you think of uh like the big artist, they always got two names. Yeah. Will Khalifa, Big Point, Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like he was like, you need to do something to give it some more spizzazz. And then I went home. Like, I ain't gonna lie, I ain't really wanted to have that at that point, you know what I'm saying? Although something working, you know what I'm saying? I'm already upset, like, man, he dang on, dang on playing, like playing on my name, like that, you know what I'm saying. But at the same time, I may be like a little upset about stuff, but I'm a realist. If something makes sense, you went to the console, like yeah, like if something makes sense, I'm gonna go with it. Although I may be upset in my feelings, I'm gonna be like, still, like, I gotta do what I gotta do because it makes sense. I always go for what makes sense. I don't let my feelings override what makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 47:41

I think a lot of men need to hear that.

SPEAKER_00 47:42

Yeah, yeah. So I mean it makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

I may be like, uh-uh, but I'd be like, uh, let's go and get it done. You know what I'm saying? Do the work, don't take it personal.

SPEAKER_00 47:50

Yeah, don't take it personal. So, you know, I start thinking about last names. I'm like, man, what can it be? Then I thought about my style. I'm like, yo, my style is like not one thing. Like, I can kind of do this and do that and do that, you know what I'm saying? Like, take it different places. So when I thought about it, I'm like, Da Vinci, Leonardo Da Vinci, he was like somebody shit, everything like a renaissance, like you know, somebody was doing different stuff. I'm like, Da Vinci, that's it. You know what I'm saying? So it's just Mula Da Vinci. Then I thought, then I said it, Mula Da Vinci. I'm like, oh yeah. Oh, roll right off the tongue and everything.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

I thought you were gonna have this name the entire time until you said that part. Y'all figured that this was your name the entire time.

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Nah, when I first started rapping, like my first year or two, it was just Moola. Like, it was just Moola. That's crazy, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

Well, I'm happy you went to that consultation. Right, right. Right.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

You took it up a level. Yeah, you took it up a level.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

Instead of letting it tell you, you take it up a level. Yeah, that's excellent. That's excellent. Um, I guess I gotta ask a question. I know I know we ain't been on time. I'm good. So I get to ask more questions about it some more. So, all right, you you have your name, you have all that stuff together. Um you've you've done some good collaborations, you're working on building things up. Is there anything, is there anybody that you want to work with um that you see, hey, that's somebody now at the status of where I am, I can reach out to them and hopefully I'll be able to work with them. You mean somebody from uh like a higher it could be anybody that you want to work with to make music, to do like period.

SPEAKER_00 49:22

Um man, that's that's like a lot of people though, man. Like what I can do. Did you name a couple?

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Because we got time.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

Uh I would say uh Corday. Uh-huh. Wanna do something with Cordae? Wanna do something with Joy Badass? Dope. Oh, you really are serious about literally.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Because I knew you weren't playing. That's why I'm asking these questions.

SPEAKER_00 49:39

I know you aren't gonna say the typical names that I hear. Yeah, uh Joy Badass. Um, I would say definitely everybody wants something with Drake. You know what I'm saying? If you can, why not? Why not get it white? Not only that he's gonna put me in that spotlight, he's a great artist to me. You know what I'm saying? He's gonna push it work hard. Amazing artist, you know what I'm saying? Him, um, I wouldn't mind doing uh something with this uh London artist, and this will be the last one because it's just a different little twist. This this artist from London. I heard his rap on, I mean it's his song at the end of this um show on Netflix called Top Boy. Oh, I love a top boy.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

I love that show.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

Who would that is, Joe? Yeah, so his name is Potter Paper. Uh uh Paper, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Potter. I love it. Yeah, trust me. I watch enough of that show to kind of practice my little accent. You know what I'm saying? I'd be I'd be talking to my homeboy like that, you know. Um but uh yeah, so Potter Paper, like he's real dope. He like a uh London lyricist or wherever he's from, you know what I'm saying? He's dope. I'm about to I'm gonna have to see about this part of paper, man.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

I'm already on it. I'm already on it. All right, so um anybody here locally in South Carolina that you want to work with? Um South Carolina had a chance.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Yeah, for sure. I mean Black Zach. Yeah, good call. I like to work with uh Rennie Rucci. Yep. Um well on first, the the number one would be Nick Grant. You know what I'm saying? Like that's his number one. Yeah, if you could get all that, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's my number one artist that I want to work with, is Nick Grant. Uh this uh new guy that I just seen, he ain't new, or probably ain't new, but um he just started going crazy. I seen and just came across my timeline, Trap Dickey. He dope. He dope. I don't know where he's from, but he from Carolina, because a Carolina blog blog um page shared him. He went in. I'm like, okay. Then I kind of went back and seen some of his old stuff. I'm like, oh yeah, buddy ain't bad at all. You know what I'm saying? So he'll be a dope one to work with like somebody different. Yeah, yeah. Because I don't always have to work with just like lyricists kind of like. That's what I was saying.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Yeah, that's because again, you're you're like an outlier to tell the truth. You know this. Um, specifically in in in our in our state, the type of music that we make. We make a lot of club music. Um, we make a lot of um strip club music. Right, we make a lot of stuff that you go and party to and et cetera, or that you might just hear listen to while you're vibing. Riding down, you know you got the bass hitting in the back, you're just hearing hearing it for the vibe. But um, like the lyricists, it's always interesting to hear who they listen to, right? But who they might have wanna work with because you know who will push me from Charleston?

SPEAKER_00 52:31

Who?

SPEAKER_01 52:32

Benny Starr. Oh, Benny Starr would yeah, love Benny Star.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

Like, I still listen to his albums, like Free Lunch, yeah, the water album. I still listen to them just like. Oh, that album is so dope. To the yeah, I I know that guy, man. Yeah, that's that's that's one of them ones like that would work. That's like the Carolina Kendrick. Yeah, seriously. For real, no lie, no lie. Oh, both of them from Carolina. I mean, Cole is from Carolina, but you know what I'm saying, for like South Carolina type vibe. That's our that's our version, yeah. Man, no, you are not lying about that.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

So, what do you have um like coming up with your music? Like, what do we expect?

SPEAKER_00 53:11

Uh, this me, man. I'm coming out with some more projects. I got I got something coming out uh produced by my dog High Rise. Shout out, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to High Rise, you know what I'm saying? He me and him about to really like lock in and really put out like like put together some real dope projects for the world. So just be on the lookout for that. Um more content, like just period, you know what I'm saying? I feel like as an artist, like the most important thing for artists is to produce and uh and like put out content consistently, no matter what it is, you know what I'm saying? Something for the people to always follow you with, you know what I'm saying? So just more content, more singles coming out. I ain't too big on an album yet, because me personally, I still feel like we're building.

SPEAKER_04 54:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

So I feel like in the building stage, it in my opinion, it's just not the best idea to put out a whole album. Like, like let's just put out more work, and then once we, like I said, we got the attention and then we get the retention, yeah, then it'll make sense for me to just drop a full-length project. You know what I'm saying? But in the meantime, in between time, just be on the lookout for a lot more singles, a lot more dope visuals, um, and and just content, period. I agree because that's where can they find you? That's a great thing.

SPEAKER_03 54:34

Where can we on every platform?

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Every platform is Moola Da Vinci. I make sure everything is dressed right, dress. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 54:41

Mulah da Vinci. And he's not lying, his stuff is nice and consistent. I'm looking at your link tree. Everything's on where it's supposed to be. Right. All my pictures is the same across all of the platforms.

SPEAKER_00 54:52

So if you see me with some shades and a dirty South Calabasas shirt, you know who's who? That's you, yeah. Everything across the board, Moola Da Vinci.

SPEAKER_03 55:02

You want to give any shout outs to anybody on your team?

SPEAKER_00 55:04

Yeah. Um, shout out to my dog Al Green, Alt Rev Soul, shout out to the coalition DJs, you know what I'm saying? Definitely to my Carolina uh chapter, you know what I'm saying, that I rock with so heavy. Um, like I said, shout out to High Rise. Um, shout out to everybody just out there supporting the brand. You know, um, shout out to my family, my little kids. Yeah, they recorded content in the background, you guys. It's working good, y'all. You know what I'm saying? Uh even my son Ryan, you know what I'm saying? He man, he got him a YouTube channel. My daughter, Eva, she got a uh YouTube channel. She like she a rapper. Like, you know what I mean? Like EVE got a music video out and everything. Like, she got a whole music video for her.

SPEAKER_02 55:53

Yeah, we be there early, right?

SPEAKER_00 55:56

Like, she loved to perform. She loved to perform. I actually had her perform for me um Juneteenth. We had a Juneteenth festival in Augusta, and I had her open up for me.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

I had her open up. That's right. My G, man. Family First. And she got up there, she had her mic, and get her autographic. She had her shit. She's early. You can't tell her nothing that day. You know what I'm saying? She's she a superstar though. You know what I'm saying? And you know, and uh man, my boy Jalen, you know him too. You know what I'm saying? He got a channel. Just all us working, you know. Shout out to Shah Montana, you know what I'm saying? That's the mom of the family. She she's working as well. She's like super creative, so yeah, you know, I like that.

SPEAKER_03 56:40

Anyway we can support you, just let us know. Definitely send us our playlist.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Please do. Yeah, because the playlist pop. And because we talk about playlists, the reason for them, that's why we like to make sure we curate our playlist specifically um for local artists and then also for them to hear things that they might not normally hear to put people on, man. It's always a good thing. Um, other than that, man, I know we're gonna be wrapping up, and I must say, man, this is an excellent interview, man. I appreciate your time. Thank you for being so gracious to us. Um and I just want to say DJ and what? Tamaya, Skip right here in background, esteemed guest, DaVinci. We want to thank you for joining us here on the Hill Talk Globe Podcast. This is a shout out. I just want to make sure I said this information so it's not missed. We're here at Celeb Studio. Um, it's at 224 O'Neill Court, Unit 19, here in Columbia, South Carolina, Zipco 29223. Uh, the phone number for contact if you want to do an event or arrange something to be done here. Um, and many things can be done in this excellent space. It's gonna be 803 665 5252. Other than that, until next time, peace.