Empowering Self-Care Through Skincare

Speaker 1 1:45

Hello y'all and welcome to the Hilltop Glove podcast . Our guest here today is the exciting Itasha McFarlane .

Speaker 2 1:52

You said my name , right too .

Speaker 1 1:54

Yeah , I have to check these things . Yeah , they're important . An award-winning anesthetician and spa owner of Faces of Itash . Is that part right ? Yeah , okay . In Columbia , south Carolina , itasha is on a mission to empower her clients to prioritize self-care through personalized skincare solutions and relaxation treatments , resulting in healthy well-being . Her spa provides memorable experiences to each client each and every client ensuring that they leave feeling refreshed and rejuvenated . Her expertise in healthy skincare goals and use of her own skincare line allows clients to maintain their skin between spa treatments with products that can be shipped worldwide . We're thrilled to have you here today on the podcast Tosh , and we can't wait to talk to you about the skincare industry . So thanks for joining us today .

Speaker 2 2:46

Thanks for having me .

Speaker 3 2:48

Oh , side note too , if everybody knows , we got a guest host today .

Speaker 1 2:51

Oh yeah , guest host today , oh , jacobs .

Speaker 4 2:54

Yeah , I was about to say I didn't see you in no bio , Just say sweatpants enthusiast .

Speaker 3 2:59

Eddie , how do I ? You know what I'm saying ? Perfect sweatpants , preet .

Speaker 1 3:04

Jacobs , friend of the show .

Speaker 4 3:05

Bing bong .

Speaker 1 3:06

Bing bong . He's coming over from his podcast , the Negro League podcast , yes , and taking some time out from opening a studio in Columbia .

Speaker 4 3:14

It's an art gallery studio called Soul House , 1223 Lincoln Street . Me and my partners Eric Duncan and Cat Hunter , we are really excited . Our opening was for Vista Lights , so I am exhausted but I'm happy to be here . Glad you could make it so happy to be here . Yes , yes , I'm happy to be here . Glad you could make it so happy to be here .

Speaker 1 3:32

Yes , yes , I'm so happy . Yes , let's just dive right into it . One of the first things we start with the people on the show is just kind of asking you know how you got started , kind of your origin story and what kind of led you growing up into this field .

Speaker 2 3:44

Well , I'm originally from Newark , New Jersey .

Speaker 4 3:46

Okay , new Jersey , oh okay , what that mean , what that sound affect me . I know that , you know that , I know , Like I ain't got to say nothing .

Speaker 2 3:57

So yeah , I'm originally from Newark , new Jersey . I grew up there all my life . I came down here to South Carolina for college . It was a little culture shock . I went to Morris College . So , coming from New Jersey yeah that part I was like ma , come get me , get me . So people always say , well , how did you make it all the way down here ? One of my advisors back home in Jersey , he went to Morris College and he was like , hey , you need to get up out of Newark , go down south . So I came , did the tour and all that . I was like , okay , bet . So while I was in high school I was a performing arts major . So I went to a performing arts high school . I was a dance major . So I'm versed in like doing things in terms of the arts , entertainment , the social mix and things of that nature . So I had to do makeup in a dance major .

Speaker 2 4:44

So that's what kind of led me into what I do now which is aesthetics so that's how I got into the aesthetics field , Was doing makeup for a while after college and then there was just so many makeup artists . It's like , hey , I can do your face and I can call myself a makeup artist . And it's like , hey , I have this new career so I just wanted to set myself apart . So I went into aesthetic school and I just kind of flourished there and I was like kick makeup to the side and just went full force with the aesthetics .

Speaker 1 5:12

Can you tell me a little bit about like the difference between aesthetics as a field versus like cosmetology or something sure ?

Speaker 2 5:18

so you have cosmetology and then you have aesthetics or esthetician . So cosmetology mainly deals with hair . They do touch a little bit on , like some skincare , with like an express facial . They do nails as well and feet , but in terms of esthetician you're just mainly the beautification of the skin . So hair , not hair , but you can't do hair removal . So we do skincare , we do waxing , you can do makeup , so you still completely boxed in . But if you want to do like hair , then you have to go to cosmetology . I see was it ?

Speaker 4 5:50

was there something with what you were looking at where you felt like there was an inefficiency of focus on black skin , black culture , that made you say I need to go here , because I know there was something that happened about a couple weeks ago . There's a sports analyst named shannon sharp and he was on the espn show and I say this nicely , you can tell that it was a white makeup artist that tried to put makeup on him . Yeah , he looked like he was ready . Yeah , he was ready for the grave , right , and . But that opened up the conversation of , like you know , there are certain things that people don't know about . You know , dealing with pigmented skin or dealing with , like you know , certain colors and certain things that might work . So was that something that you saw in the field , that you were just like , hey , this is something that I'm looking on TV or I'm looking at these other people in my field and they're not getting this right . Let me figure out a way to speak to people that look and sound like me .

Speaker 2 6:36

Right , that's a big thing I know for me , like being an esthetician . When people come and they say I ask them , like how did they hear about me ? They say , well , I was looking for a black esthetician . So automatically they're looking for somebody that looks like them , that understands their skin , that knows what they're going through , and then oftentimes they may have had an experience with somebody that's not the same complexion of them , whether it's with face matching with makeup or just skincare in general . A lot of things are going on in the skincare world in terms of , like , chemical pills and people getting chemical pill burns and things of that nature . So , definitely , but I think it's just more so educating all the way around , regardless of the ethnicity , to know that , hey , this is your skin type , this is what your skin type can withstand , but you have to have a skincare routine and know what products to use for you .

Speaker 2 7:21

Everybody's kind of just using . You know everything that they see , whether it's on TikTok or from an influencer . So it's like , hey well , she's using this product , so I'm using it , but that's not going to work for you .

Speaker 4 7:31

All right , Random question for you , because I think the same thing kind of happens in , you know , the spa field , like mani-pedis and things like that . There's always this overwhelming idea that men either ignore that type of , you know self-care or treatment or things like that , or they probably just don't think it's for them . So is there something that if you could give advice to , tips to men with skincare routines , that we might not think that it's for us , but you know we need to improve ourselves in a lot of ways . What would you suggest ? And has that been something where you see more men begin to be clients ?

Speaker 2 8:06

So overall , regardless of ethnicity and gender gender like everybody should be taking care of their skin , right ? So most of the time when guys come to me they're coming by way of their wives or their girls . Yeah , like when they you need some self-care . You know I'm talking to them . What's your concerns ? Do you suffer with like ingrowns ? You know , just kind of getting to know their skincare routine , that they have something , and then they're just like , hey , well , my girl booked this for me and I'm just here .

Speaker 4 8:35

He tried to be harder . Yo , you know what I'm saying . I'm just here , Yo you know what I mean .

Speaker 2 8:39

Whatever she told you , that's , you know , I'm like , okay , cool , so I get them prepped , because I'm like , okay , well , this is what we did today . And they're already asking me like , oh well , when I need to come back . And I'm looking at them I'm saying , oh , you want to come back , you want to come back . But guys definitely need a skincare routine because most of the time , you guys are probably using like a bar soap or your body wash to wash your face or you might be using't smell bad .

Speaker 3 9:11

as long as I'm not ashy , okay good right , all is best for y'all .

Speaker 4 9:16

Like y'all don't need a whole lot of steps well , I don't use the same soap for my face , so , like I have like a face wash , then you have like a body wash and I also like lately I've been doing stuff , like you know , having like a face and beard wash , right , right , you know what I mean . Because kind of like a face and beard wash , right , right , you know what I mean . Because kind of , like you said and that was the same thing , we were kind of joking , you know , having a conversation off camera , the pandemic would teach you a lot about yourself , where you could be like I , I'm at the house a lot , man , I look like a mess . Plus , I didn't get a haircut in two years , right . So you started learning certain things like beard care , because , like , I can't go to the barber every couple of weeks now , so let me figure this type of stuff out .

Speaker 4 9:52

So , yeah , so I would say like I think that's more common , because guys just think , like you're thinking , right , if I ain't ashy and I put the polo cologne on , I wear Tom Ford , by the way , I put the polo cologne on and some Jordans it . You know what I'm saying , but you need to like , you know it's part of the hygiene like you take care of your body .

Speaker 2 10:10

You wash your body every day . You use a moisturizer , you use lotion or whatever the case may be . So everybody across the board should definitely be cleansing their skin on a daily basis . Especially if you have like a beard , you want to get up underneath the skin because if you're not keeping it hydrated , then that's where you start to get those pimples or the blackheads , the ingrrowns . If you're shaving too much , especially at home , improper shaving techniques .

Speaker 2 10:34

So , if you're going against the grain or going in different directions and not the same direction of the hair , if you're not doing exfoliation , if you're not keeping that area hydrated and it's dry , it's like , hey , I'm thirsty , are you going to give me some water ?

Speaker 2 10:48

You have to make sure that you're still taking care of it . And the like I'm thirsty , is you going to give me some water ? Like you have to make sure that you're still taking care of it . And the same thing just with your body , too , and skin , and then overall , like just how you look , right . So like you want to age , you want to age gracefully , right ladies , I'm so sorry , it's a mess right .

Speaker 2 11:04

Even if you have a lady or whatever case , maybe you still want to feel confident , like in the skin at your end . You still want to . You know you still want . It's still a part of you like okay , I still got it or whatever . So you still want to turn heads , but if you look at Bummy , ain't nobody going to be checking for you , right ?

Speaker 4 11:21

I think men think self-care is just getting a haircut .

Speaker 2 11:23

Yeah , just like you say your cologne your clothes .

Speaker 3 11:27

It's like it's everything from head to toe yeah , cause one of the things he mentioned earlier and this is something I just got back on to but , like pre-COVID , I used to really be on my shit when it came down to getting a haircut , like I was always like two weeks , I gotta keep the tape line right , I gotta stay clean . And it was like and when COVID happened , you know , I was just like a lot of people , a lot of guys , we was letting shit grow out , it didn't matter . And then it was like , with my job , I wasn't really on camera , like that anyways , where when I was on camera I wasn't like a key person , so I didn't really care you just got dressed from the waist up .

Speaker 3 11:58

Yeah , and for a while , and then I was just like shaving my head because I tried to . And then I remember a couple months ago we did a taping . So we did a taping for the Create Talks project and so one of a good friend of mine that was there he was like man , what's going on ? Man , what's your tape line ? Man , you tape line messed up . Man , I started getting my hair cut .

Speaker 4 12:21

It's always your real friends . Shout out to the good friends that tell you when you're not smelling correct . Tell you that your tape is messed up . Telling you that your Jordans are fake .

Speaker 2 12:32

You know those are the heroes .

Speaker 3 12:34

Those are the heroes that we need , and I think just fast forward it was , and so it wasn't until maybe about like two or three months ago , I was like , oh , I got to get back on my regimen again and so I'm back on that . But even with what you're saying , it's shown that's not even enough . Just doing that .

Speaker 2 12:47

Yeah , like you . So cleanser , moisturizer , even sunscreen . I always tell my guys . But even just introducing something to you guys , I just try to keep it simple because simple is best . So a cleanser , a moisturizer , a sunscreen , or I usually say like a cleanser , a treatment step , and like a moisturizer .

Speaker 4 13:03

So and a sunscreen ? I haven't heard that .

Speaker 2 13:05

So sunscreen ? I know they would say black , no crack right .

Speaker 4 13:10

But I mean , just think about Baby mage , don't age . You know what I'm saying ? I'm 159 , baby , you know what I'm saying ? I met Abraham Lincoln . Let me stop .

Speaker 2 13:21

Every day , regardless if you're directly outside in the sun , even when you're driving , the UV rays is like coming through the glass , like if you ever look at people who are truck drivers . Sometimes the left side of their face is much darker than the right side , just because they're constantly exposed to the sun . So when I break it down like that , it's like that and even like you got your laptop , we're on our phones more .

Speaker 2 13:41

So , the blue light from the phones , like all that plays a factor in aging the environment is like the number one factor with in aging Like . The environment is like the number one factor with us aging Like

Business Growth and Mentoring Advice

Speaker 2 13:51

. So you want to have like your protective coverings . When summertime comes , you definitely want to hydrate . You need some like acid , aka water , for your skin .

Speaker 4 14:00

I was about to say I'm about to look that up and I don't know how to spell it .

Speaker 2 14:03

So all of those different things because you know as to age , gracefully , we start to get the fine lines and wrinkles around our eyes , puffiness underneath the eyes , dark circles .

Speaker 4 14:13

So all of those different things Now from the way you told the story . It felt like all right , I came from Jersey , I'm into the South , now I got this business . You don't sound like that , but that's why it's funny , because you don't sound like that . If you sounded like that overnight , what was some of the , the growing pains that you had with the business ? And ? And what say to young people that are interested in starting their own business , wanting to be entrepreneurs ? What would you give them as advice to to help with their goals , whether it's in the field that you're in or beyond ?

Speaker 2 14:42

so I think , overall , when you're a business owner , in whatever field , it's just finding your right sauce right . So what works for you ? How you're gonna break into this industry ? There's so many other people that's doing it , so what's gonna set you apart ? So more so , growing is just finding your right sauce . So what works for you ? How are you going to break into this industry ? There's so many other people that's doing it , so what's going to set you apart ? So more so , growing pains is just being tenacious , linking up with the right people . For me , I really saw my growth when I got like a mentor and a coach to say , okay , girl , Well , how does that happen ?

Speaker 4 15:08

Because there's another men thing , right , right , women could go to another woman in their field and literally just say , hey what you doing .

Speaker 4 15:16

Can I , yeah , can I learn from you ? Like off on a tangent but not really . When I saw , you know , the Beyonce tour and everybody , I didn't go to the tour but seeing how women felt with that , I said to myself men , don't have a musical hero that makes us feel this good , right . Like half the time in hip-hop someone's making us feel bad about how broke we are , right and we're like we're just dancing to it . Yes , I'm broke as shit , right , but beyonce like empowers and makes people feel like this and so like . I think that's something that not only women and I say for the black women in my life I see that where the ability to be like yo , a lot of women that I know they say I have a mentor and I don't hear men say that enough . Yeah , it's true . So how did that happen with you for your mentor ? Was y'all just hanging out and be like let's just have this natural ?

Speaker 2 15:59

So while I was still in aesthetic school , I was on social media a lot , so I came across her Her name is Candace Holyfield . I'm six figures spot chick . Came across her page . That and , just like how you said , like women relate to certain people , like beyonce , like as you start to follow somebody , then you start to learn their ways , then you start to really bob in , then you start to really stay connected and be like , oh , she's live or she has this going on , so I need to be following her here . So I just started showing up , so you know , getting her digital products , showing up to her different events , got into her coaching program , and then it just kind of went from there . So even to today , like this day , I think , let me see , I graduated set school in 2018 and like she's still like my mentor to today , like she's the one that's killing it in my industry yeah that I know , like hey , but even for guys I feel like you know y'all hang out

The Importance of Mentorship in Business

Speaker 2 16:55

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Speaker 2 16:55

It's more like a vervage thing or maybe an ego thing ? Yeah , because if you already have a group of friends that are guys like , it should be nothing for you to say hey , yo dog hey , yo , hey yo listen man .

Speaker 1 17:06

Hey yo , right , you know , I mean structure , stuff that happens between guys , you know , because if you go into something like man , can you please help me ? You gotta teach , you know . Then it's like you're asking for a teacher and we don't know you know , really we do .

Speaker 2 17:20

it can be like that too , like because women , you know you have the jealousy thing or I'm not gonna help her , I'm not gonna do this , but I feel like with guys is it should be . I would think easier for you guys to come together , like if you say hey , this is what I want to do , I need like three guys , and then you start your movement . Oh yeah , we do that , oh yeah .

Speaker 3 17:39

Sometimes what happens and I'll even put this , I'll even share a story , just like with me and preach , right , a lot of times when you reach out to people about certain advice or certain things , sometimes people feel like there's some type of ownership with it , Like , oh , I gave you this knowledge , I dropped these jewels on you , so now I owe you something . And so , like preaching somebody who's an awesome person to reach out to and I'll ask about this , different uh projects , different things , how to move about things , right , like I said , he's one about several other people too , but with him I never felt like , oh , since I dropped this knowledge on you , now you owe me something . I got to do this to do that . And I think a lot of times with men , that can happen in that mentorship standpoint , especially when somebody looks at themselves in that way , because it's like , oh well , I see you're moving right now , so what are you going to do for me ?

Speaker 4 18:26

now , yeah , I think our backdrop is always hip-hop , right , and so there's always this competitive is too light of a word , cause I think it's more than that Right , cause it's not just saying I want to be better than you . It's like I want to eat your food and take your girl , right .

Speaker 4 18:42

I mean cause we obsessed with , but we obsessed with Michael Jordan and like Michael Jordan's a terrible person If you watch the last dance , right , but we're like , but we look , is this is that I got started really young where there were people that could have been mentors to me .

Speaker 4 19:00

But they would . Son , you right , you know what I mean . And so I look at it as a responsibility . Like , for an example , like I was with Sanford Green and his son is making beats now and he's a real dope dude . But his son doesn't realize how great his father is , because these celebrities know Sanford as a , as an illustratorrator . But we're talking on the way back home and his beats sound great but , like you can hear that he doesn't have a monitor at home , stuff like that .

Speaker 4 19:21

So I said , yo , you got some studio monitors , like , nah , I got some studio monitors , I ain't using it . Yeah , I'm like you , go , right , I mean , how much you selling your beats ? Well , let me buy one , right , so , so in a way , I need to be the that I didn't have when I was growing up , right . And I think the other thing that I learned , too , a rule that I learned , that I've been really grateful the way that young DJs , the way that the old school DJs here , how they were mentors , yeah , you , if you knew Prince Ice years ago and you go to his shows , you were carrying crates for him , yeah , right .

Speaker 4 19:52

So I think with men I don't know if it happens with women . But , like I think , a lot of times , the mentorship if you see somebody that has something that they can teach , you have value . My first question would be like how can I make your life easier ? Yeah , what can I do Then ? When you start doing that , then it makes it easier for people to start sharing stuff with you . Right , so , like so , yeah , so .

Speaker 2 20:18

So , yeah , but I think that's a . If you were giving advice for entrepreneurs , find a mentor , I think that's a great piece of advice . Yeah , you need a mentor because , like you said , if you are seeing somebody in a position where you aspire to be , you already know they have the game plan because they've gotten that far . So if there's somebody else that can take you even further , then you're looking up to the person that can take you to your next goal .

Speaker 4 20:34

It's like $500,000 to eat dinner with Jay-Z $500,000 . Like , who has this theoretical money that y'all just wasting right ?

Speaker 2 20:42

Yeah , mentorship is , I think , what really kind of set me apart with really just instilling like this is my goal , this is my mission . Understand my numbers better . Just understand what I really need to do , as opposed to just surface things Oftentimes . Better just understand what I really need to do , as opposed to just surface things . Oftentimes we're like oh well , I just need to post , and it's like you can post all day . But if you don't have the audience or if you're not talking to your audience correctly or have the right call to actions , if you don't have your things set up in place , then they just they're just people that's just looking at you on social media .

Speaker 2 21:12

But you know we're business owners , so we need to the business . You know we're business owners , so we need to . The overall goal is to make money , because we need to make money , like how you got , you have your podcast , you have equipment , we have , you know , back-end things and stuff like that . So we need all of that in order to take us to our next level . So from there , you know it can grow to something else , but you got to make sure you're assertive too .

Speaker 4 21:32

So are you still going through those like because I know they usually say it takes about three to five years for a business to figure out what they are and be , you know , kind of streamlined into what they need to do . What are some of the things that you're doing differently now from a marketing , business , wise or community based thing versus when you first started it ? You'd be like , wow , if I would have known this when I got started , I would have like saved a lot of headache .

Speaker 2 21:52

I think overall for me is I can be a procrastinator , sometimes Especially early on Procrastination , and just like overthinking . It's just like you have these ideas and you're like , okay , this is what I'm going to do , but we're so on the back end , trying to make it perfect that by the time you put it out somebody else didn't put it out . You're like , oh , she stole my idea or you know , you feel in some type of way . So just being tenacious . And then also in terms of business , I think that I'm now beyond the mark of like how you have that three to five years , because now I'm more sure of myself . I'm getting into different rooms , like connecting with people , being able to have access to people to say , hey , you know , having people's telephone numbers , as opposed , I gotta go through this person and that person where people are actually reaching out to me now . So it's to the point where , okay , I put in the work and now I can say , okay , well , I can help you do the same thing if you're willing to learn

Skincare and Self-Care Routine

Speaker 2 22:45

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Speaker 1 22:46

So at some point you decided to not just provide services but to start making your own products . Right , can you tell us a little bit about , like , what brought you to that and how that started ? You got .

Speaker 2 22:57

I have products here . So as an esthetician , of course I'm primarily service-based , right , but like how we say with COVID came , you know we shut down , so I can't . You can call me and say , hey , I need , I can't provide any services because we shut down . So even if you are service-based , you still need to have some kind of other streams of income . So even with you guys as a podcast , you're online but you still can link products to it , like with your merch and stuff like that . So the same thing with me in terms of products .

Speaker 2 23:31

Okay , I can't do services , so people still need to take care of their skin . What can I do ? Or if I'm a new esthetician and I'm not necessarily getting clients , I mean I know overall people still have to wash their face and things of that nature . So at first , when I first started doing products , I did like a hydramis , which is like a facial toner , and then from there I actually went into like , looked into drop shipping and I have like my own merch line too , and then from there , you know cause you always find what's next , what's next . So I just kind of back around and just expanded the product line . So I have a skincare line . My primarily do a lot of women , but I do have a lot of male clientele right so and I try to make sure that I educate the guys more because we don't want you to come .

Speaker 2 24:10

I want you to come because when you come , if I tell the ladies , if you just get him there , then I got the rest , just get him there . Right , just get him there , I got the rest . And by the end he's going to be like OK , so when I need to come back , it's not like dropping kids off at a straight program , Just get them to the prison .

Speaker 4 24:27

And the mom was like all right .

Speaker 2 24:30

So I have a skincare line and I do cater to men , women and teens . Usually in the summertime I do like teen skincare workshops and have the teens come out , but I have a cleanser . Yeah , so I have two cleansers . I have a moisturizer , I have treatment products , I have oil for the guys and face oil for the ladies , and then I even have a sunscreen too , right .

Speaker 2 24:50

Oh , look at that Sometimes you know you rarely see a sunscreen or a sunscreen that works for just about every skin type . It doesn't smell like the beach . So we do have a skincare line and then we can ship worldwide . So we do offer our products online as well , as you can pick it up in person at the spa as well . So I do have some gifts for you guys to try .

Speaker 2 25:12

That's what I'm saying , you know I do have some gifts for you to try . So I did bring you guys some things for you'll get the . So the full size that you see right here is our male grooming set and for the month of november I'm not sure if many of you guys know , but it's like no shaver . So we do have our skincare line for guys and you get like a tote bag .

Speaker 2 25:31

You get the cleanser , you get our mandelic toner pads , which is great for exfoliation and brightening up the skin and it's also great for those who suffer with like ingrown , so like when you go to the barber shop , you start to get the bumps underneath the , the beard or even the back of the neck , but you can use it all over and then you have your moisturizer and your hair , skin and body oil your face , your body and your beard . I so , with that being said , grab a bag , okay , okay , grab a bag , something for you to try out to see . All right , look at the excitement . This is what we need . Hey , hey , hey , it's fucking easy here . Oh , my God , we got a Toyota Highlander . Y'all are a trip .

Speaker 2 26:19

So your skincare routine every day would be to cleanse using the purifying cleanser . Okay , you're going to pour some into your hand , add some water , a nice little lather , circular motions all over and rinse , and then in there you have the mandelic serum . So that's just a sample of what the pads are down below . So ideally , with the pads , you can take them out and work it all over your face . The Mandelic Serum is in there . So you apply that like two times a week . That's your treatment step . That does the exfoliation .

Speaker 4 26:45

So tell me in order . How do we need to do ?

Speaker 2 26:47

it so purifying cleanser Number one , your serum will be second , and then your moisturizer will be third . And your face ? So you always want to apply your products thinnest to thickest , the only thing , that's coming off is the cleanser . So the only thing that's coming off is your cleanser . And then you have your serum , and you have your moisturizer , and then , that's fantastic .

Speaker 4 27:14

Ladies , oh my gosh .

Speaker 2 27:14

Y'all want some succulent lips , they thin .

Speaker 4 27:16

And then that's fantastic , ladies . Oh my gosh , y'all want some second lip . Oh my goodness , they thin . I can barely taste barbecue , but they thin as hell though . But you know , ladies .

Speaker 2 27:22

And then also too , guys , for the fall winter you can exfoliate your lips too . I should have brought y'all a little scrub set . But even if you don't , have like Scrub you can take like your toothbrush . Just take it , okay .

Speaker 4 27:34

Take a toothbrush and do what Tell me again and brush your lips .

Speaker 2 27:38

What as exfoliation ?

Speaker 4 27:39

Man , look at him . Hey , listen , I'm not name dropping when I say this , but I met LL Cool J last month . Of course you did . So I said LL Cool J met Preach Jacobs . No , no , I definitely met him , but for him not to have a fucking chapstick line is a mystery . For somebody to be known that much for that , yes , For him not to do that right is the craziest thing . At least a chapstick endorsement .

Speaker 3 28:08

Yeah , you know what ?

Speaker 4 28:09

I'm saying Yo , my lips , they be doing it .

Speaker 1 28:11

well , you know what I'm saying I think , something about growing up masculine in the 90s , like I don't know . I think it's kind of like a holdout from like this old era of cinema where , like , every man was shot with hard light and you know you're supposed to look . You're supposed to look like john wayne's was a headache , like dark , you know , you know , and you don't need none of that , you know , but chapstick was one of the first things that I was like holy crap , like I actually can keep my lips from falling off all winter do y'all have like chapstick that y'all use every ?

Speaker 4 28:41

day . No , I do not . This is why I'm so excited about this .

Speaker 1 28:43

Absolutely yes well , not on the summertime . I don't keep it with me , it's usually in .

Speaker 3 28:51

I like it ladies skincare routine .

Speaker 2 28:54

And then for y'all audience , if you guys text dapper which is D-A-P-E-R , so you're gonna text that keyword to 855 947 5371 and then I have some male grooming did you say it again ?

Speaker 4 29:10

did you say 855 , 947 , 855 ?

Speaker 2 29:13

947 5371 . And the word is Dapper D-A-P-E-R .

Speaker 4 29:20

Thank you for telling me that , because I was about to send somebody a random message .

Speaker 2 29:23

It happens , it happens all the time and then I'll also , for your audience , give you guys like gift cards , oh .

Speaker 4 29:28

Bing Bong . Look at this .

Speaker 2 29:30

Everybody's here in our city . I could do a giveaway . I really want the guys to come in and we can do a special for you guys , for the guys that do a giveaway . Have one of the guys come in or two guys . Two winners come in . Oh yeah , absolutely .

Speaker 1 29:44

One of the things that I've personally noticed is self-care in general is necessary , especially if you have kids and stuff . I don't have a lot of self-care . That actually is self care , like if I'm sitting down playing video games . It's usually the same kind of problem solving that's going to stress me out in life , you know what I'm saying .

Speaker 4 30:04

You kick it to a certain level . You're like you know what , yeah .

Speaker 1 30:07

I ended up playing them games . You got to think about

Self-Care and Personal Grooming for Men

Speaker 1 30:09

stuff , yeah . But that idea of like , oh , like , oh , let me just take care of my body , let me just spend an evening , which is something that that I've started doing . I just got an evening .

Speaker 2 30:17

It's like I'm not just gonna take a quick shower tonight I'm gonna do what I need to do and I think there's , there's like there's a space there to find self-care that you haven't found before yeah , because , like , the world that we live in is hustle and bustle get up , we just get our phone , we we do next , next , next , then we finally get home and we crash , or whatever the case may be . But like , even if it's like 15 minutes or 30 minutes , just setting aside like at least 60 minutes . So like when you come like , hey , I just need 60 minutes of your time , it's going to go by fast .

Speaker 4 30:56

But when you think about it to go and that's wearing tear on your body . You're not able to kind of think effectively , consistently , so I think you know . More specifically , for men , again , I don't think we're aware . It's like you don't know what you don't know . I don't think men are aware of certain things that need to be self care , because I self care , my self care is like bourbon . You know what I mean you know what I mean it's like and and and and .

Speaker 4 31:11

It can be helpful in some regards , but it has to be other things that we got to do . And I think that you know social media can be a terrible lie , right ? Because I remember for sure . Listen , I remember when the pandemic started , everyone thought it was like a fucking vacation , right ? And ? And you would hear people like you know I will call them toxic positive people like yo .

Speaker 4 31:30

You just gotta grind like like wallow I love wallow , but while I'll be running in the rain , you just can't give up . Don't give up , keep working . And I'm like , when the pandemic started , I said nigga , I'm going to learn three languages in this bitch . I'm going to have a six pack . I'm going to do sit-ups every day , and it was just one day . I just hit a wall and my therapist is just like nothing is doing a lot . So instead of beating myself up because I can't get out of bed , that's probably all I can do today . You know what I mean . And so we have to figure out ways to have grace , right , but you know ? But we allow social media . Maybe that's the self-care . Let's put our phones away , right ?

Speaker 4 32:08

Oh yeah , the whole thing , the whole thing we're thing where like oh , you know the whole conversation with cheesecake factory and all that stuff , like like , why are we gonna stress out about these hypothetical situations ? Ladies , I can just take y'all out for the tortinos pizza yeah , you know what I'm saying .

Speaker 4 32:23

Hey , listen , listen , my thing is this , right I ? I think there should be the opposite effect with dates . Right , where , like , I was having this conversation with somebody about two , like if there was like two millionaires dating each other we're talking about like jermaine Dupri and Janet and they were like you know , what would you buy somebody for Christmas , when somebody has everything , I was like they should have a rule that the gift can't be more than $100 , right , so you have to find something . Yeah , think about it . Yeah , so I think , dates under 50 bucks . You know what I'm saying . Let's do it . You know what I mean . I'm going to take you to . We're going to go for a walk , then we're going to walk into my art gallery .

Speaker 2 33:03

Dates are always associated with , like drinks .

Speaker 4 33:06

And so I mean , you don't have to like .

Speaker 2 33:07

A date doesn't have to be dinner . It can be like- .

Speaker 4 33:09

The $50 can be the bottle . Let's go on coneris , let's do it anyway . I'm sorry I'm hijacking , but yeah . But so I think self-care is really important , but I think kind of finding out what that is that means I think you could offer , and what you're doing is that we have to give people the opportunity in a room to explore that , that , even if it's like I might not go get a facial every week or whatever .

Speaker 2 33:36

At least once a month .

Speaker 4 33:37

We have to have the ability to give people the room to explore Right , and I think that's really important . So I say this on camera I will be a client of yours , a reoccurring client .

Speaker 2 33:46

Come again , say a little louder , please .

Speaker 4 33:48

Look here , ladies . I know this is amazing right now . You know what I'm saying . I want you to see me when I come back , when I get my face done . But yeah , I don't know . We're just going to have that glow at the opening . We're going to have a true before and after . Y'all going to be looking for me in the daytime with a flashlight when I get done . Let's do it . It's going to be a mess you , oh yeah , for sure .

Speaker 4 34:13

And men get manicures and pedis too , like , yeah , get your feet done , because I know they look rough , I know they look bad .

Speaker 2 34:20

And even if you guys are shy about going to the nail salon , depending on which ones you go to , they have private rooms like a VIP area .

Speaker 4 34:27

I ain't shy because , listen , you walk in there taking care of yourself . That part Absolutely . I always wanted to get a pedicure .

Speaker 3 34:34

I always wanted to get a pedicure and then my wife has been dragging me about . I don't think I have ugly feet , but my wife was like you need to get a pedicure .

Speaker 4 34:42

If your wife is saying that she's telling you baby , I love you , but I love you , but Don't worry about it .

Speaker 4 34:50

I got the in a way of you know , the same way where you're talking about no Shave November . It was also like October , where men were like we're not going to drink for a month and I'm like , all right , let's find ways to not do something . And so I ended up going to get a mani-pedi and I wrote about it . It was the funniest thing , right . When they started putting a little jelly , I was like , do I need to stop ? I was like , nah , I'm going to get this out of my system in a minute . Just you know what I mean . And I got to listen to hardcore rap . What I do is listen to like mob deep , getting my feet done Right so I can have like balance . So I'm like , right , this is angry .

Speaker 2 35:23

So were you able to relax at all .

Speaker 4 35:24

I mean it is relaxing to me . It is relaxing . I'll definitely go back again . But to normalize , that is the secret weapon , right ? It's like , hey , not only is it something that you should do , but it's no problem doing it and you should be open to it . So I think that's really effective .

Speaker 1 35:45

I ain't going to lie to you . Like my dad was like a mechanic , like hands is always working on stuff , hands is always scarred up , but he would always keep his hands clean . But I was always a little bit . You know , I'm doing stuff , I'm painting oil under my nails and all kind of stuff . We had a create and I was sitting down at a table with Dogan , who does nothing but make art . Nails and hands were absolutely pristine and I'm sitting there looking . I got old oil paint from two days ago that I can't get out . I'm like God , what am I doing ? I'm looking sloppy . So that's what got me cleaning up my nails .

Speaker 4 36:21

Listen , man Ain't nothing like if you try to take a picture on Instagram . You look at your nails . Look like you know what I'm saying . You've been scratching charcoal all day , what's ?

Speaker 2 36:29

going on .

Speaker 4 36:29

Be self-aware , right , and , ladies , y'all be self-aware for men too , Because a lot of times , like when guys look a mess , it's because y'all still date us anyway . Like y'all need to give us some standards .

Speaker 2 36:39

We don't speak up .

Speaker 4 36:40

Yeah , Like women should be . Like , excuse me , before you ask my number , put your hand up here . You know what I mean , so yeah , that's it .

Speaker 3 36:49

That's all y'all got to do . That's something I it's true , because I've heard this a lot . I've heard that there are a lot of women that they look at a man's hands and if their fingernails are dirty , they don't want to deal with a man that has dirty fingernails .

Speaker 2 37:00

I'd say about 50-50 . 50-50 ? Yeah .

Speaker 4 37:03

You ain't going to put those in where you think you're going to put them .

Speaker 2 37:08

The first thing is just your overall appearance , because we see you coming from afar and it's like hmm , so is like mmm , so we do we do boop , boop , boop , but yeah , the hands because it's just like okay , come on now . Like you ain't gonna cut the mug , you ain't gonna clean the bunnies plus the pimp nail when people got that long one to bust their blunts up like stop y'all have y'all had a paraffin hand treatment before ?

Speaker 4 37:30

probably not what . What , yeah , you dip your hands in and then I've had that . I didn't know .

Speaker 2 37:33

But you can do it on your feet too , so Okay , all right .

Speaker 3 37:37

Oh , to kind of segue a little bit , because I really wanted to talk about this part was , of course , you weren't always an amazing esthetician slash entrepreneur . You had a previous profession .

Speaker 2 37:48

Can you ?

Speaker 3 37:48

share a little bit about that .

Speaker 4 37:50

I was a drug dealer , whispering on the mic Like last time I came over here .

Speaker 3 37:53

You know why , why , Editing Because , remember , I can always turn it up .

Speaker 4 37:58

We don't have to Okay , so you're telling me I'm too loud . I'm sorry , I got you peeking no no , great mics , we're good .

Speaker 1 38:07

We got quality mics here .

Speaker 2 38:08

These are upgrades , these are nice , these are what we used

Navigating Work-Life Balance and Parenting

Speaker 2 38:11

. I just actually retired from teaching last year , so elementary school , so pre-K , for like I can't believe I've stayed with that same grade for so long , but like 12 years . So last year , every year , like for the past three years , I was like , okay , this is going to be my last year teaching , this is going to be my last year teaching and I'm still there , and I'm still there . Then last year I was like this is going to be my last year teaching and then I was like , okay , that's it . So set myself a goal end date and now I'm actually truly working my business full time . So oftentimes people are like , hey , I thought you were already working your business just because of what I was doing and how I was showing up . I was working it .

Speaker 1 38:48

They were like you're a teacher .

Speaker 2 38:49

I didn't know you was a teacher , but so teaching elementary school , and I also was an instructor for two and a half years at the aesthetic school too . Oh wow , teaching is kind of like .

Speaker 3 38:59

Do you miss the kids ?

Speaker 2 39:01

I don't miss the kids .

Speaker 3 39:02

Oh wow .

Speaker 4 39:02

That's an answer I wasn't expecting to hear .

Speaker 2 39:04

Every once in a while , like I did , I'll go back as a sub just to help , okay , but I don't miss it . Like I got my days , I got my time . Because I found myself when I was at the school job like my phone was ringing I'm checking emails , people calling the book , appointments and it was just too much , yeah . So I was like , okay , it's time to go .

Speaker 1 39:25

You miss kids individually . As a group it's just a static ball . I know there were some you were happy .

Speaker 3 39:31

You know what ?

Speaker 1 39:35

I kids are not kids , they're grown .

Speaker 2 39:44

I know exactly .

Speaker 4 39:45

They have a lot of trauma and like just social , emotional and you see their parents and you be like oh my gosh , I know why you're dealing with this trauma now yeah , so you got little kids singing town .

Speaker 2 39:56

What ?

Speaker 4 39:58

see that video . It's like little kids in the car and the mama's like stop singing that . And the baby's like stop singing that and the baby's like down . I'm like shit , the world is over yeah .

Speaker 1 40:07

I am all for uncensored music until you got a toddler and you're like nope , we got to put controls on all the apps . I'm not having you sing at all . It is freedom of speech , but not out of your mouth .

Speaker 4 40:20

Yeah , Like so , yeah , so that was a thing I used to hate going to Walmart to get tapes and CDs back in the day because they were all edited so you would have to get your stuff from Target in the record store or whatever . But now in your mind , if you're parents , you're like , damn , I wish I could just have edited versions of everything you do .

Speaker 1 40:35

You just got to flip the switch on the app . Now that's it . That's what I do . You just flip the switch , turn actually listen to my spotify , okay , no , but see , then it's a battle , because mella don't want that on there and I'm like , but , but , but , but , I can't be having my kid listen what you listen to something that was a strange .

Speaker 3 40:53

That was , it was a random , it was . I guess it was a good surprise , but to me it was an awkward surprise . So my daughter , for some reason , is a huge taylor swift fan . Yeah , I don't know where that came from , because there's nothing about me . Pop music hits a lot of the chords man it really does so .

Speaker 3 41:11

She was riding with my wife a couple weeks ago and I forgot whatever song is out . Now the most recent one is out and she was just singing the hook and I was like she's in this song and she's like three years old and I was like she's like three years old and I'm like , well , at least it's not pound town .

Speaker 4 41:27

Yeah , she's going to do an acoustic version . I'm going around fucking with my rounds . I hear me I could be home . You know , yo , that's just sound jamming in my head right now . Yeah , it's wild , that's just sound jamming in my head right now .

Speaker 3 41:45

Man Tell me you got to hear me out . Yeah , yes , wow , oh , my God .

Speaker 4 41:50

Just seeing those videos , Taylor Smith Know what that finger was . Huh .

Speaker 3 41:53

Another thing I saw too . It was random and I know this is kind of going down a rabbit hole , but talking about things , pound town adjacent , kids Pound town adjacent . There was a video I saw on Instagram . It was two little girls about five , six . They were on top of I don't want to say like a kitchen table or like a kitchen table or like some type of table , like an office table , and they were just like twerking on the table , like uninterrupt , like that's just what they wanted to do and I'm like where ?

Speaker 2 42:21

Some of these kids' shows have pay attention to some of these , like Disney movies or just the cartoons and shows that your kids are watching now . Like some of that stuff the verbiage , the language , the music , like the mannerisms they always try to fit in a little dirty joke .

Speaker 4 42:39

But you gotta have a little bit of , you gotta have context , and they hope here's the thing , though , and this is where I always think the parental side was really important , right , because I came from the generation where my dad was just like just have your head in a book . He didn't give a fuck what the book was . Just be in a book . And I'm reading an autobiography of Miles Davis where he's talking about fucking Billie Holiday . I'm reading like Iceberg Slim . I'm reading some of the most horrific shit that a kid shouldn't be reading . He told you to read a book my dad looked at me and he was like alright , good , it's not the same .

Speaker 2 43:16

You have to interpret it as opposed to . It's probably more fucked .

Speaker 4 43:20

And then the hip-hop I was growing up on . I'm listening to NWA , I'm listening to NWA , I'm listening to X-Clan , but I'm also listening to , you know , the Public Enemy , strap Call Quest , and it was like this weird , not a weird , but it was like this healthy diet that I get to hear everything . I get to hear Fuck the Police , I get to hear Buddy , I get to hear Fight the Power , and so it was never weird for me to be exposed to that stuff young . And you know , and I'm watching Shaft and finding these movies that my parents grew up on , but it was always understood that if we hear you saying it , there's a problem or whatever . You know , I just think that my parents they weren't trying to be my friends and I think a lot of times like , like some people treat their kids like they're little accessories . You know what I mean .

Speaker 1 44:03

You know what I mean .

Speaker 4 44:04

It's like , you know , get a sidekick , get a short mouth and you know and they be venting to their kids telling them shit they shouldn't be telling them . You know , your daddy ain't shit . You know what I'm saying .

Speaker 1 44:12

And you start to see it , because when they start hitting like 12 and 13 and then you have this .

Speaker 3 44:23

You know what I think a lot of it is . I think a lot of it is . Sometimes growing up , we might have had trauma with the way we were parent , so a lot of times what you'll see is you'll see people like well , I remember how my mom was to me , or my dad wasn't me . I don't want to be that type of parent , and so it's all .

Speaker 1 44:40

It's over correction yeah and see that happen in like generation after generation . We off , we way off topic now . But yeah , it does seem like there's always a counterbalance . So , like , whatever direction the last generation started swaying , we got to sway the other way , yeah .

Speaker 4 44:59

Do you have kids ? I ?

Speaker 2 45:00

have kids .

Speaker 4 45:00

All right Working with kids . Making it not funny , it not ?

Speaker 2 45:04

20 of them . But then you always say , hey , well , you know , if I have my own kids , then it's not gonna be that way but then you know , you have parents say that it's like you said yeah , only thing you can do is just be aware of how you act to your kids right , yeah every they're gonna .

Speaker 1 45:23

They're gonna pick up all the bad habits . It's going to happen .

Speaker 3 45:25

Yeah definitely . So , with that said , you know perfect segue . So being able to , you know , take care of others is a blessing right , obviously . So how do you take care of yourself while maintaining your work-life balance ? Because , of course , so much of what you do right .

Speaker 2 45:41

So that's a good question . I would say probably within the last two years I have kind of not mastered but really did a little bit of with work , like balance , so I do schedule time off , I try to . Social media can be hard for me in terms of like completely unplugging . I've traveled a lot more . Now I actually just got back from a cruise , but I travel a lot more she slipped that in .

Speaker 4 46:02

Where'd you go ? Where'd you go ?

Speaker 2 46:03

you know , let me change my mind , they'll be whispering like him , so we went to the Bahamas in Princess K , so we left out of Jacksonville . But I just do more traveling . I do actually get my self-care services too .

Speaker 4 46:20

So not just facials , but like massages , going to a ? U for the services that you provide for people . Do you go to somebody else or do you provide your own services ?

Speaker 2 46:27

that's a good question so I provide my own services because I really haven't found a me , okay , so you a barber to cut his own hair ?

Speaker 4 46:35

hold the mirror to be honest , like and then oftentimes too , like I'll go .

Speaker 2 46:39

I'll get my massages regularly because I have my people that I go to , but when it comes to like my facials , it's like I'll do my own facials , or like when I'm on a cruise . Of course , I got one done .

Speaker 4 46:51

She said , of course , like I don't know about cruise .

Speaker 2 46:53

But no , because I need to . That's like my market research . I need to see like , hey , what are they doing ? So I was deduction , yeah , like what they're doing . The experience is like what's the price point , what's factored in ? So I do get my self care in , but I do need to be better about actually getting my routine facials done by somebody else , okay , so do men have the same paranoia with getting like mani and pedis the way they do about massages ?

Speaker 4 47:18

and this is not a Deshaun Watson conversation but like , like , because my biggest fear with a massage , all right , we're in a trust tree . I don't want to get so relaxed . I'm not worried about you know anything inappropriate like that .

Speaker 2 47:32

I'm scared that when you get comfortable and fall asleep , right , okay , so let me tell you she's like I've been fought Now in my years like of being a .

Speaker 2 47:41

I've never had like a situation where , like somebody , like necessarily where somebody necessarily got a hard-on or it was a situation where they crossed the line . So I had probably , maybe earlier this year I had this couple that came and they had come before and they got facial massages or whatever , and at the end I think I don't know if the guy had booked the spa package or what I can't remember . But at the end , like later after the appointment , I'm checking my Instagram and the message said hey , have you ever had any experiences with , like , your clients getting a hard-on ? And I was like , did he really just ask me that ? Right , and sometimes you got to be careful . Being a woman in the industry working with guys Like you know , you have to be careful being a woman in the industry working with guys Like you know you have to be very firm , like there's no , like playing , or you know you got to be like all right , dude like what's up ?

Speaker 4 48:31

Yeah , you got to put the heavy voice on . All right , we're about to do a massage right now .

Speaker 2 48:34

Yeah , so basically he was just saying , like you let you know that , okay . Well , thank you for bringing that to my attention however , like you already didn't , left .

Speaker 2 48:48

Yeah , so nice , feelings are hurt . You ain't saying that , but really like kind of like weird was like you told me this and then you say you told your girl and then you say your girl is mad . Like of course you would be mad .

Spa Services and Business Expansion

Speaker 2 48:58

So what was the purpose of that whole like rundown like ? And I think sometimes you just have to be mindful of like people that protest .

Speaker 4 49:05

I know , I know exactly what happened . I know .

Speaker 2 49:09

They ain't been back .

Speaker 4 49:11

Well , I know exactly what happened . She accused you or either him of doing something inappropriate and he had to send you a message so she could read it , for you to say it and be like oh well , I didn't even notice it , oh so it's just cake , right , pull your baby she . Maybe she didn't even know , girl , you know you , it was your idea to go anyway , hold on . So that was a constructive your fault , I got so relaxed .

Speaker 4 49:33

Yeah , that was a constructive message that I improved because if you would have been like well , I know you got one , that's why you know what I mean like , but she was just like oh well , you're telling me this , that was really , you know . Then now the girl's like oh , I'm sorry .

Speaker 2 49:46

She probably won't say I'm sorry but but she kept looking like dude . Yeah , that's like well , like certain stuff like that , but you just got to be mindful and just like how you said , in terms of comfort , like you know , we want to make sure that you're comfortable , and even guys and things of that nature like it's just a rule . Like you lay down the structure , like you set the tone yeah , absolutely .

Speaker 4 50:03

You know what that's hilarious that my concern is less about an erection and more about farting . It's like I don't know that means I'm a good guy I'm not , but it's just like I haven't had anybody that like it's more , so just snoring and okay there has been questions come up .

Speaker 2 50:17

well , like , even like guys be like , hey , I just want to make you like , let you know , even when I used to work at like like a franchise spa , like , just because guys are like , hey , I don't know , especially if it's your first time .

Speaker 4 50:27

Yeah , it's like because I never got to my first time . That's why I'm nervous about it , right .

Speaker 2 50:31

So you kind of had that conversation up front , because you don't want the person to be like they're thinking I'm a fag .

Speaker 4 50:37

They should be like look here , man , your fart smells so bad . I wish she got an erection . I'm going to ride the deal with that . You need professional help . Oh my God .

Speaker 3 50:49

You got some kidney issues , but you know what , thinking about that , that's so funny now , because I'm just thinking about silent and deadly .

Speaker 4 50:55

If that was the case , I'm going to blame it on the masseuse . I'm like baby , that was you .

Speaker 3 51:01

That silent can hit , because I've been like Seems like if it'd be loud it'd be funny . It seems like it'd kind of break eyes right . It'd kind of make everybody comfortable , right .

Speaker 2 51:09

Oh , okay , Because I would've been like in a couple sessions with , like , my massage therapist , and like she's massaging the client and I'm doing a facial and then she looks up at me time she was like hey , I did add a new like oil to my massage cream . Does it smell like kinda different to you ?

Speaker 4 51:31

so I was like no , it doesn't smell like lavender at all .

Speaker 2 51:32

And she was like oh , and then . Then he must pass gas , like yeah , cause it's fine . But I have been like you know how you look at somebody and you be like we were in a session .

Speaker 3 51:41

The silent ones are the worst . The silent ones gotta be the worst , because don't gamble and lose .

Speaker 4 51:47

If you ain't show , don't let it go .

Speaker 2 51:51

In a nutshell , just come Spa with the best . I'm located here in Columbia , South Carolina . I'm on Two Notch Road . We have everything from facials , massages . We do teeth whitening Back facials . So if you have back acne , she said back facial wow everything we do for your face , we do for your back , chemical pills and then for , like my ladies , we do like more women's health . So , like Yanni Steam I don't know if you guys are familiar with , like Yanni Steam or V-Steam , and they also have A-Steam too .

Speaker 2 52:18

I don't know exactly , yanni Steam is an old , ancient ritual that they used to do way back in the day just to help with womb health , help with just like women issues the nurture back uterus from having you know babies and things of that nature . Uses herbs and warm heat , so you kind of like sitting over a pot with steam and the herbs . So you get it done like once a month . You can come a little bit more frequently , but everybody has their own success stories in terms of getting like Yanni's theme , so like people who have like stones and things of that nature , fibroids and things of that nature .

Speaker 2 52:53

So it has many different purposes . But really where the treatment comes in is with the actual herbs , like the blend that you're using . But guys can get it done too .

Speaker 3 53:01

Okay , the A-Sting .

Speaker 2 53:04

Yep , so it's an A-Sting . It's an A-Sting for the guys and then for the ladies it's either Johnny's team or B-Sting Gotcha . So prostate issues , so that'll be . Oh okay , yeah , you can come with a couple . Y'all come together and steam together .

Speaker 4 53:25

Sip steam , sipping steam , the Lord Jesus . Yeah , let's take our cameras and the cameras get fogged up . Do the next podcast and we'll get one of those .

Speaker 2 53:31

Get y'all some self-care and we'll take care of it .

Speaker 4 53:32

Listen , my stomach growling , I think it's loud as hell . I helped the microphone and pick it up . She gonna tell me what herbs to drink . She said listen , this is what's the matter with you .

Speaker 2 53:45

So what's next for you ? What projects have you got in the works right now ? So what's next ? So I do a lot of mentorship now , like with other institutions . So I just recently had a friends giving for spa professionals where I kind of had them come on in . We kind of went through like going through your business , like what you need to do , where you add , where you want to grow . So every year I usually host like an esthetician brunch . So I'm gonna bring that back next year .

Speaker 2 54:02

So professionals- and then just expanding spa wise in terms of services . But I want to say Esthetician Brunch , so I'm going to bring that back next year , so Esthetician Brunch for spa professionals and then just expanding spa-wise in terms of services . But I want to say , probably within the next two years , I kind of want to be done with actually physically doing services and really get my products like on Amazon , target , walmart . So kind of think ahead of the game as opposed to like it's no problem . It's not a problem with being service-based , but sometimes you got to know when you need to kind of factor in some other things .

Speaker 4 54:32

So I'm just kind of going that way what part about your business you're mostly passionate about ?

Speaker 2 54:37

I would say , for me it's really the experience with providing the service , because you know I can have all these skills , but it's got to be about the experience , because the experience is what's going to give me the referrals . The experience is what's going to keep that that , that you heard it .

Speaker 4 54:53

You heard it that thing louder than a motherfucker , ain't it Like , look I ain't eat last night .

Speaker 2 55:00

experience , because we provide an experience , then that's what's going to do the talking for the business , like they're going to come , they're going to book , they're going to book , they're going to tell people about it . So it's really about the experience . So to make sure that when you come , you're like oh , smells good .

Speaker 1 55:14

Like even before I touch you .

Speaker 2 55:16

You're already like receiving exceptional .

Speaker 3 55:20

Where can we find you ?

Speaker 2 55:22

So I am on social media Instagram , faces by Etosh , and that's F-A-C-E-S-B-Y-E-T-O-S-H . I'm also on Instagram and Facebook . My website is Facesbyetoshcom , so everything is Faces by Etosh . Also , for clients that want to come spa with us , if you text SPADAY so the word SPADAY S-P-A-D-A-Y to the number 855-947-5371 . We'll send you a gift card to come spa with the best .

Speaker 1 55:53

We also want a free times runner up for best esthetician Next year we just want to take that whole first title .

Speaker 2 55:58

So make sure you come spa with the best you was at the best of party .

Speaker 4 56:00

No , If I ain't working it I ain't going .

Speaker 2 56:03

So yeah , so we were there . So come check us out Awesome and connect with us socially and in person . And we're right here , on 2 Notch Road 9367 2 Notch Road Word .

Speaker 3 56:13

All right , I'm following you .

Speaker 2 56:14

Follow follow follow Excellent .

Speaker 3 56:16

With that said , I'm sorry that was her , though . Oh you good .

Speaker 2 56:21

I'm blaming it on you , I'm blaming it on the stomach thing Growling .

Speaker 3 56:24

Thank you . Thank you for joining us today and also blessing us with this amazing men's care kit .

Speaker 2 56:31

To use it now . I'm going to use it . I'm going to use it .

Speaker 1 56:34

I got a 14-year-old that's going to be fighting me for it right now .

Speaker 4 56:39

And I'm lonely . Nobody's going to fight me for it .

Speaker 1 56:41

Everybody's going to frighten me for it . Well , I mean , it's always you .

Speaker 4 56:48

If you want to pick one up ? Man , you're always a fourth wheel . You have to drop a ball like scared straight . All right , I'll come back next week . Be like Boys in the Hood . Every movie like that . There was always a mama dropping off their bad-ass kids leaving their daddy . It's your turn now , furious . It's your turn to drive off . You know how bad it all right side note you know how bad it gotta be a mama to say I'm going to take my son to Compton in the 1980s . Here you go . Yeah , it was pretty fucked up . How crazy is that ?

Speaker 3 57:18

Sorry that was With that said man , I'm sorry we got . Oh , that's Preach , man , that's Preach that's so brother man . I'm with that said Preach . We gotta . Thank you , man thank you for having me always wanna have you as a guest host , so we definitely gotta do that again , for sure whatever , listen , I'll never tell y'all .

Speaker 4 57:38

no , I might tell y'all not today cause I might be busy , but like anything y'all always need , I'm always here and I got a gift for you by the way too , yeah , I got a gift for you . Yeah , it's a very timely gift . It's something I got yesterday from Charlotte , so , yeah , you'll get it .

Speaker 2 57:50

That's one other thing that , since you mentioned Charlotte , I'm going to be expanding to Charlotte next . Look at you .

Speaker 1 58:02

That's what we need for the podcast . We just don't have it . Where we can reach it right now ?

Speaker 4 58:05

And y'all need to have like something like this . All right , I'm totally taking this podcast to the worst level . So the five-year-old in me got this app . You get one of those .

Speaker 3 58:18

So when guys get in massages it's like when you come that was so random , that wasn't even you got complicated at the door just when you come .

Speaker 2 58:30

No , I got you , alright , okay but with that said .

Speaker 4 58:38

I don't need to ask you to do another guest hosting situation . Ever again , we're going to pre-book you today alright , let's go . There's a bear , right . Yeah , let's go . There's a bear shit in the woods , let's go .

Speaker 3 58:48

With that said , Mike , close us out .

Podcast on Aging and Self-Care

Speaker 1 58:51

Thank you for tuning in to the Hilltop Glove podcast . I don't usually do this . This is usually an onward thing , I know . Thanks for coming on today . This has been a wonderful discussion and influencing us to self-care and to take care of our faces and not just turn into these raggedy old people . This is important to me because I realize that my wife is not a fan of being married to an old white man and she did not put it together that eventually I would be an old white man . What did she say ? I don't know , man .

Speaker 4 59:19

I just want to say my wife is not a fan of me . It's like all the marriages I know , hit or miss day by day .

Speaker 1 59:27

But yeah , I think she would be very nice if I did not turn into like kind of I can't even remember some old white man name right now . But yes , thank you for that .

Speaker 2 59:40

Well , thank y'all for having me . I appreciate it and I will be back soon .

Speaker 1 59:44

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