Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00 1:48

Welcome back to the Hilltonic World Podcast. I'm going to explore what culture meets economics across the Carolinas. And over the years, I've had an afternoon to sit down and with some incredible artists, creatives, who helps shape Carolina culture. And sometimes those conversations led to the next story. And of course, this one goes back a while, actually. So of course we first started out, we talked to your brother, Holly X, which is a long-time collaborative supporter, and also a good friend of mine way, way before Hill Time Club. Right? So I've known your brother now over like over 20 years. Right. But um we're actually joined by his younger brother, David, who I only heard about in passing. But I finally get the meeting with the flesh. 16K is a rapper, podcaster, and independent creative based out of Aiken County, South Carolina. Yes. He's been uh building his own path in Carolina about for nearly two decades from music and collaborations to podcasts and independent media. Um this journey represents something we don't talk about enough. What it takes to remain creative uh when the spotlight moves on. So just staying persistent with it and still staying dedicated to the art. Um, but um, there is another layer to the story. Um, what happens when you grow up watching someone close to you build a creative career? So we want to talk a little bit about that. Okay. Uh but with that said, um, we'll go ahead and get started. How are you doing today, 16? Um alright. Yeah. All right, cool. You know, I'm here. I just you know, you know, my brother had a birthday party last night. Yeah, no. I know. I was trying to call, I was trying to call him last night, but I put some together. I probably didn't pick up the phone. Yeah, yeah, it was uh let's just say we we might have went a little bit. But you know, when you went family and friends, you know, it it continues to happen. That's right, yeah. So

What First Pulled Him To Music

SPEAKER_00 3:50

um, so with that said, question I want to ask you is um of course I know you know older brother, of course I know he was an influence somewhat when it came to your interest in music, but like outside of just like family influence, what really it motivated you to, I guess, uh pursue music? What motivated me? Um I would say around 200 uh six, seven, that's when the holiday was really getting into it and it was transitioned out of the military. So with that, and I was coming up on getting out of the military, uh, he asked me to be the manager of Southern uh Southern Comfort. Yeah. And I was like, all right, came down here, I was okay at it. I mean, but watching them work and create and spend hours and hours perfecting their craft, it kind of was something that I wanted to pursue myself. Like as I seen the work and dedication, and I wanted to, I wanted to put that work and dedication on something. And music just seems like the path that that was next to me, you know. Cool. So

Writing Lyrics Without Overcomplicating

SPEAKER_00 5:19

next question I have. So probably like, so you know, of course, music, you know, you got your start and your finish to a song, right? And a lot of times people, you know, of course everyone loves the M result. Right? Um, for you, what do you think is probably like your favorite part of the process when it comes to writing music? I would say I would say actually putting the words together. Um like there's things I mean there is only a limited amount of time you have if you want to make it like uh a good time. Yeah. And there's things you want to say in it to get your point across. And you know, there's some things you don't want to put in it to overcomplicate it. Yeah. So you have you gotta find that balance to where you can make it uh able to listen to it while also getting your message across on what you're trying to say. Yeah. And I think that balance is what uh drives me because it's like some things I want to say, but I can't say because it just don't feel right in the moment of that song, yeah, or that line, that verse. So you have to get creative and try to find different ways to say what you said. And so while I was um like so, of course, I've listened to you guys music for for a long, long time. Right. Um it's kind of my fault. But no, but it's out of love, obviously, of course, of course. And so one of the things I've always um I've always wanted to know, and it made me, because I know you used to go by black. I remember used to go by black for a while. And I remember when I was going through volume, like earlier um earlier last week, I started going back and listened to Rock Sun Star for Volume Two, right? Yeah. I told you I'm gonna do some research. I had to go back. Because I hadn't listened to it in such a long time, right? Oh man, I forgot about this. And so I went back, and one of the things I always wanted to know was because like even with like the new album, like to be honest with you, a lot of the songs I like were the ones that you were if you were from at all. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that. Oh, really? Yeah, so I really yeah, so I really like that. Don't say a holiday. Well, yeah. Don't say a holiday. We don't tell a holiday. I won't be on the next one. I know. But the thing I always wondered is, have you ever thought about um doing like have you ever thought done like what about doing like a solo project or songs where you were solely on?

Planning A Solo Project

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Um yeah, um, I'm actually working on a solo project. Okay. Um, but that there's also that balance because I want, because you know, we're working on uh Southern Comfort Volume Water. Yeah. And I want to make sure I have uh songs for that. But for my solo project, I want to do something different. Okay. Something that um that sounds like today's music, yeah, but it also covers like real life. Um real life thing. Okay. And so I want what I want to do is have something um that sounds like that, but also be able to contribute to what you want. I don't want I don't want it to sound like anything we're we're putting out with with Settling Comfort. I want it to sound like my own sound. Okay, and that's what I'm working towards right now. Okay, cool. So how long are you gonna think about doing this? Uh it's probably maybe like a few years maybe. Okay, cool. Okay, cool. Yeah, I've never thought about going out and doing something. Like I do solo songs myself.

SPEAKER_01 9:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

As far as projects, I didn't really I was all about southern comfort. Yeah, horse, horse. But now it's like I feel like I feel like I'm in that place where I'm comfortable enough to reach for that. And the thing is, I'm gonna always tell people too, but it's never like it's never too late for you to try something new, especially when it comes to like like creativity, right? Because sometimes I feel like we can kind of we can kind of limit ourselves because you know, we look at like we can be like age, it could be like circumstances. Just think about what happened. And I love this dude as an artist. Just think about what Padre 3000 said a couple months ago, right? Where he was like, Well, I don't feel like I got nothing else to rap about, right? Right. But if you look at it like right now, some of like the best artists in the game are like 40 plus, right? 50 plus to some extent, right? So it's like I feel like everybody has the opportunity and they have they have the talent and they have the pen, I think they can write, I think they can write some awesome music, right? Regardless of what year year, what what age, what era. It's just just have the courage to go do it, right? And stuff. So I think I wonder what his motivations are. Yeah, like you know, I mean, sometimes, you know, you get frustrated and you don't want to do it no more. I can get that back. Like you're right. Like you can no matter what, like trends come around, you know, every decade or so. So I mean something could pop that sounds like you, or you can help enhance and make it sound better, and you know, maybe you've got another lane. Yeah, I agree, and I think a lot of times, that I and I it may be like I don't like I said, I don't know, I'm not an expert, right? These things. But I do feel like sometimes, especially people who've been in the spotlight for so long, sometimes being known, and this is where the creativity comes in too, is this is a good saying for what we're going to. Being known for something, that's one specific thing for so long can kind of be stifling for a lot of people. Right. Right, because table, but everybody knows three sacks just for his lyrics, right? But outside of that, he does all kinds of other things, he expressed himself all different, you know, all different ways creatively. And I think that's another reason why he just went and left and just started doing going on the path that he went on. Right and stuff. Because then I get it, you know, because like even with myself, um, there were things like I was like very music heavy um at one point in time. And not that I don't love music anymore, it's just creatively I want to go down a different path. So, and with that said, that kind of parlays into our next topic I want to

How He Got Into Podcasting

SPEAKER_00 12:03

talk about. Right. Um, so podcasting. So tell me how did you get into podcasting? Uh uh let's see. Well, that was a little key, no, just um, let's leave my brothers, as you know, they're quite the characters, yeah. And so when it came to you know, us just sitting around and enjoying conversations with each other, we figured why not turn it into content. Yeah, because a lot of the stuff that we say and talk about, like we keep we keep people constantly laughing, constantly on their tongue. Actually, we stay sharp with our what we say and things. So once that came into play, uh we kind of uh took the music that we had, started using it as the music for the podcast, and started building different uh topics and discussions uh through that way. And I mean it's it's a bit nice because a lot of people enjoy what we do. It's also a challenge too in general because we uh we stay in three different areas, yeah. So it's kind of hard to get together and be able to put uh uh content together. But when we do, it kind of it just it's magical really because it just flows like we don't even have to uh put it together. It's just all uh what's the word? Uh impromptu. Yeah. Impromptu. Yeah. It's like that. But we then we come up with a script just so we can have something to fall back on. You know, that makes sense. And the thing is, like you, you know, family you're gonna have, well, you can't say with everybody because everybody don't get along. But um it's it's beautiful though when you can have like family, you have that you got that natural chemistry like that, it makes wool flow so much smaller. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

Growing Up With Four Brothers

SPEAKER_00 14:16

But that happens, but then too, and uh, and I guess um the question I have for you is is who do you think is well one uh sorry street, so how many of y'all are is there a total? Uh it's four of us. Okay. So it's three brothers and a sister, right? Well, okay, well, there's four of us that grew up together. Okay. Um, how many in total? Okay. I'll put X. Okay, all right. Okay, you don't know. Yeah, but uh four of us, four boys. We grew up together. Okay, four, okay. Yeah, and then we have oh man, a couple brothers somewhere over here. Okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, yeah. So I have a homeboy of mine. Um, I remember he was telling me years and years ago he met his brother. He met his brother at his father's funeral.

unknown 15:13

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Yeah. Reason being, like, his dad just had so many kids. Like, I think his dad, he said he had like at least like 18, 19 kids. And it was when he went to the funeral, uh, his dad had passed. And he dude walks and was like, hey, what's up, man? I'm your brother, bro. He's like, What? What's that talking about? So no, so I definitely well I don't personally understand, but I heard stories. I've heard stories, and then like uh my dad, he comes from a big family. So my dad, they had my grandmother, she had 10 kids. So they were watching her, but you know, back then they said and stuff. So like with y'all, as far as just like that close group that you're talking about. So like what's y'all like like what's like the age range? Y'all gotta be pretty close in age. Um, the youngest is 32. Okay. And then the holidays the oldest to me is just 44. Yeah, 44. Okay, he's 44? Yeah. Oh man, he's older than what I thought he was older than. I was like 80 year old, who I'll be 42 in October. Okay, that makes sense. And I just turned 40 in May. Okay. Yeah, we already. Yeah, so everybody there. So that meant that's that's cool. So the the thing about it, man, because I know me growing up, so it was three. I had two younger brothers, right? And my dad got remarried when I was probably like about nine, and that she had three sons. And so it was like all of us were in the house. And I think everybody was born between like 81 and like 89. Yeah, so you did, and then like two sets, like the youngest set and then the middle set, they were all in the same grade with each other. And then it was just me and the um old stuff, but we were in different grades. But one of the things I loved about it was the fact you always had somebody to play with. You always had people to hang out with, right? And I know that had to be that had to be one of the favorite favorite parts about growing up. Oh yeah. When when it was only it's four of us, yeah. So, you know, that's that's two on two in basketball. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, or you know, we're playing football, we'll, you know, you know, there was this game we would play called uh uh we call it the killer man. Yeah, we turn around. And you know, you pick up the ball and whoever tackle you tackle you, and you know, we go from there. I mean, we we have each other, and I think that's what you know brought together like so many different paths that would like for us to work together. And like I said, it's not always easy. But I mean, it's just it's it's fun. It helps it helps you get through life. Yeah. I don't think I would ever I don't think I would want to. I don't think I would want to do it with anybody else, except for my brother. I respect that, I respect that. That's just like Wheel Top Clove. Um, so we started, um, it was me and my brother, we originally started it. And the thing was, it was like, like, of course, there's four of us, and we're not always like anytime we do shootings or tapings, like even like today, it's just me today, right? And so, of course, we'll get stuff done, but it's just, I know for my brother, it's nothing like having him around and stuff, you know, when we're talking to people, we're interacting with people, you know, we're doing interviews. It just, you know, I mean, it just is kind of like the ice around the cake. Yeah and stuff. So I definitely get it. And you could bounce off each other, yeah. You know how different can it be. Yeah, man. And that's probably the best part about it, man. Just gotta bounce the my ideas and stuff. So,

Building Shows And Staying Consistent

SPEAKER_00 18:57

um, how many episodes have y'all recorded? Okay. Now, there okay, so I had my own, well, uh-oh. I I had my podcast, and that one is called it's called Camel Top Tap.

SPEAKER_01 19:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

Don't don't ask me about Nate. Oh well, you can ask me about Name, but I don't really know. Like I said, creating with my brothers, yeah. That's what we came up with, and we ran with and uh that one that was more of the the silly podcast where we would uh come up with like random questions to ask each other just to see if we can knock each other off, make each other laugh and stuff like that. Um, and then uh holiday he has a podcast, and then we also do um uh well his is uh distraction at then we also doing the freestyle Fridays and that we boot it back up with so it's um so when you ask how many episodes like with Camelot, we did it maybe about uh I want to say about 30 episodes. That's good. And then with uh distraction at work, I mean I don't know, I really can tell you that it's about there's at least about 150 episodes, but we only some are also just low segments that we cover. So it's a good bit of material and then uh with Freestyle Friday. Um I don't know if we're gonna be doing them every Friday, okay, but I think at least every other Friday. Okay. And we I think there's about 20 episodes of them, so yeah, so yeah, we try to stay busy. I'm gonna give you I'm gonna drop something to worry about Freestyle Friday. You know I did the artwork for Freestyle Friday. The the grill? Yeah with the freel? Yeah, okay. Yep, yep, yep. Oh yeah, I did the artwork for Freestyle Friday. That's like, be honest with you, that's probably like out of all the projects I've worked on, that probably that particular piece right there is one of my favorite.

SPEAKER_02 21:15

Okay, and I've done it.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

I thought that was uh cartoon version of Holidays, well. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, that's what I did. Yeah, oh you did a good job. He was like, man, he was like stags, man. I need to do the grill, man. I need to add goals in the mouth, even though it's freestyle. I didn't expect any of your brother be talking. That's what I did. That's what I did. But yeah, that's probably my favorite. Like to be out, like I think I probably like they worked my whole time more stuff. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, okay. That's that's that's good to know. And that's the random part this whole time. I've never, I've never, like I said, I've never talked to many of you guys this whole time. Yeah. It's uh because like I said, I talked to like I said, I talked to your brother all the time. Of course, I'll check out, like I said, a lot of the episodes, the stuff that y'all had freestyle, what he did Printest with um with discussions, because I did that too. I created all this stuff, but yeah, man. Um as far as the content, how do you feel about the content?

The Hard Part Of Being Outside

SPEAKER_00 22:18

Man, I'm I don't, you know what I'll this is what I'll I'll say this. I think that when it comes down to like the ideas, I like you guys are on point when it comes to ideas and concepts. I've but I think the thing is, and I've talked I've talked to you about this too. I think sometimes it's just it's getting outside. So it's getting outside and interacting with people who are. Yes. That's what it's about. And that's one of the things we have, and that's what podcasts are all about. We all have to deal with like struggle with that, because one of the things we started noticing, especially once we started getting like established and we start connecting with more people, people are like, hey, man, you need to come check us out. You know, we got this thing going on, we got this going on, like that. And naturally, if you're not somebody that's that doesn't not necessarily like to be outside, but just more or less like an introvert or life, you know, life is life, you know, as you can't go to everything. So it'd be like, you know, so it's like, man, like you don't really know what's going on with something. You're just kind of talking about stuff. And it's like I got like whatever I call this, I just call it like it's that YouTube YouTube personality. You know how you have people on YouTube, they're known for being like great content creators, they got all these followers and everything, but nobody knows who they are. They never go anywhere in real life, or sometimes these people don't even have a face because they don't put their face up.

unknown 23:44

Like

SPEAKER_00 23:45

I think that's just something we all get caught up in. Yeah, I mean That's something that I um I have a challenge with. And I'll say that because I like to create, I like to make people laugh, I like to stay on my toes, stay sharp. But when it comes to actually going out and interacting with people, it's like I can do it, but you know, you've always got that reserved feeling, like you don't want to go out there. You don't want like you just want to create, you just want to sit there, you just wanna work. And you gotta find that balance because you could be the funniest person in the world, but if nobody knows you, you know, nobody's ever gonna give you the credit you deserve for for your life. Oh, and that's the thing too, where I'll check we got a chance to check out some of y'all stuff. And I know because you gotta bring the comedy side facts, right?

When Online Comedy Fails Live

SPEAKER_00 24:55

So what is your opinion on, and I guess it wasn't that's the TikTok comedians or social media comedians, and you know, and I hope you know what I mean? Someone that's a comedian on social media, but when it comes to real life, baby there, acting as good. Yeah. Oh yeah, man. Wait, and just to make uh could you repeat the question just to make sure? So, what is your opinion on someone that's uh that's funny online, but they have a difficult time translating it into real life? Oh, I well, there's a lane for everybody. I would say that. Yeah. And maybe, you know, stand-up code may not be, you know, the lane for you. Or because a lot of people they don't take the time to work on it.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

So maybe you need to work on it more. Because I know looking at different interviews and stuff, there's comedians that say it takes them months to write jokes. And I think like with a lot of the TikTok people, um they just come up with a ticket, you know. And I mean that works because uh America's attention def uh attention is not like what it used to be. Yeah. So it could be hot for a minute and people move on to the next thing, but maybe yeah, working on the craft of transferring your your TikTok jokes to real life, I mean that can help. Because I mean, it's like you said, uh you can find your you can find something different that do you find a different thing, you know, and if you want it, you you you'll go get it. Yeah. Yeah, because that's something I always want to talk to someone like, especially someone who's approach, especially with content, there's more comedy related to it. And I know that can be like a fan, and it's like a fan line, because you can become well known as online, yeah. But you hear so many stories about people in real life, like they're like, oh, they start doing stand-up, and then it's just stand up. Yeah, and real life if you would is such a different, and it goes back to what we're saying too, even with like the thing about being outside. It's like as much as you can be behind the screen, you know, or be online, it's just something about being being in front of people in real life and around what people experience.

Remote Podcasting Versus In Person

SPEAKER_00 27:35

And I know that's one of the things that we try to work on too, is when we started out, we started out during COVID. And so everything we did was online. Well, heck, we didn't even need to lose cameras. We were just online talking to each other, it's recording this on audio. And it was like once we start meeting people in person, all that stuff changed. It was like we just realized like it was just so hard to go back to doing like a workshop, like a remote interview. Gosh, I hate doing all remote interviews. Not like I'll hate doing like get anything out of it. Right. But like how we're talking here like face to face, yeah. Like you can't, like you can't, you can't beat that and stuff. And so that's one of the things like I always always want to ask people, especially with connect with people on an emotional standpoint, especially with comedy. And when you say, okay, it was audio and then once y'all were able to go out, um, it changed from there. Yeah, what what what changed? Man, so when we first started, it was audio. And when we started meeting people in person, we didn't do camera stuff at first. Like we had like we take pictures, but we didn't do video for a while. We didn't do video. I think what changed to us was, and this is so we're funny saying it, but like I think we learned how to do podcasting like ass back orders. The reason why I say that is usually when you're reporting, when you're doing interviews, people usually can see each other. And when you're working with other people on the team, and you know, you guys have done interviews before. You'll know who's kind of has the, you know, who has the role, who's kind of building that rapport with the person to kind of take over the conversation or interview, everybody else kind of falls back in supports. Man, when we first started um interviewing people, we didn't know none of that shit. So we would still be talking something. I'm gonna say something too because we couldn't even see each other's faces. Okay. So just imagine it was just four screens, just all just pitched black, and just somebody asked a question to somebody, so I didn't let it throw off the whole line. Yeah, okay, yeah. And that was it, she then. And that's what happened. So it was funny at first. No, was everything was it lagged or anything? No, it's just lagged. It was pretty good. Um, yeah, we didn't have no latency or anything like that. It was just we didn't know how to allow people to talk. Right. Because when you got when you can't see each other and you just listen to it, okay, I got you. Yeah, and then and I think for us, I think it might have helped us out in the long run because it helped us to build our chemistry. Because like I said, naturally, my brother and I, we had pretty good chemistry and stuff. We get along with each other and stuff. But I know working with uh Mike and working with Tamaiah, that was something we had to learn as a collector. And we had to realize too, um, we interview people. So, like I said, it goes back to the rapport. Sometimes we'll sit down and we'll record with people, and one person will come in and they'll they're just a person for the day. Everybody just loves them more than everybody else. Right. And everybody wants to talk to them. And so you gotta, you know, you gotta put your ego aside, you just gotta let them handle it. And and that's why I kind of gotta get out of my shell so that you know, branch out. Yeah, which you know, it's it's happening. Yeah, but like you say, life be life, and so we gotta find the time, gotta find the balance, and yeah, you know, make

Family Life And Being Uncle Black

SPEAKER_00 31:01

it work. So um what's that second? I know we gotta go wrap up and this and we always talk about this with our guests. So for like life for you, so like yeah, like family, kids, what's that like? Um, I have I have my brothers. Oh, you got your brother? Oh, you got your brother, okay. Yeah, okay, yeah. I will have, yeah, it's just me. Okay, it's cool. That's cool, that's cool. Yeah. And like I said, it's it's total difference once you have a kid trust. Yeah. And you know, maybe one day, but right now, um I don't know. I'm just focused on everything that's in front of me right now. Okay, that's not what I'm being cool off. Yeah, that's right. And that's what I am too. Every time they they call me Uncle Black.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Yeah, Uncle Black, Uncle Black, you know.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

And before long, you know, I go from having a lot of money in my pocket to no money in my pocket. They want everything. So they know they know you got it. Uncle Black don't got no kids. You got me. It's like I didn't have kids, so I didn't have to go through this. Yeah, that's how it worked. That's how it worked. Ask my brother that. Ask my brother that. Shoot. This week, past weekend, they took all my wife and I was wife's birthday. Okay. Um, this past weekend. And so we said for dinner. So he lives around the corner from me. Signing up, so they'll watch my daughter for, you know, him and his wife watch uh watch our daughter. And she went and what they did, they went right to the mall. She came back from the mall. She had so much fun. So yeah. What happened to good wheel, Lord? Strawberries and stuff. I was gonna spend that money off. I was gonna spend that money off. She came back with a little bag from the mall. It's a little store in the mall got like little trinkets. I guess like, I guess I almost be like stereotypes. Like, I guess it looks like a lot of a lot of Asian type stuff in the mall, like poppy type stuff. Like the um, like, like the Hello Kitty type stuff. Oh, yeah, okay. Little store in the mall. Yeah, yeah. And so she went there, and I guess they got a little knickknacks, a little snacks, and stuff. So she came back, had jewelry, should a little clip-on earrings on. It was so funny, it was funny though.

Community Questions On Education And Mentors

SPEAKER_00 33:21

But with that said, we do got a new segment that we're trying out this year, and I'm gonna pause real quick because I can clap. I forgot to grab these. So yeah, you've been the first person, man, the truck check this turn this out. All right. Yeah, I was a little nervous, man. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So man. Boom. All right, so we are so hill top. Well, we got a new segment this year, and so we got these dope cards right here. Right? So these are question cards, and so these are cards, these are questions that we don't prep before. And so you get to pick two, and you gotta answer these two cards. Okay. Right? So go ahead and pick your two. All right. Yeah, all right. All right, and then you can show that camera what that car says, and then you can flip it over and read it yourself. It says the community car. What problem in our in our community do you wish more people were paying attention to Noah question? Now when you say community in our community or community. Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

The biggest problem that people are paying attention to I think I say I want to make sure I'm looking through my whole community right now. I would I would say probably I think our education system has went down in well undergrading over 20 years ago. But it seems like with the advancement in technology uh the education system isn't benefiting our youth as much as it used to.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

Because it feels like they can just go online and get whatever actually they need without doing a new diligence. Just like with writing a paper. They can just you know have it put in a system and generated back through a uh without going through the sources like we used to and taking notes and doing all the all the good stuff we had here. I think I think that maybe I read this wrong. Actually, it makes a lot of sense. When I use a beautiful muscle, right, yeah. And when you just when stuff just go in and out, you're not retaining it. Yeah, and I think that's a big issue right now. Like we're not we're not learning to learn for the long run, we're learning for the moment. That's what I think it is. Another car. Oh yeah. That was one another pop queen, let's go. All right, this car right here. And it says the mentor card.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Who gave you an opportunity when they didn't have to? Yeah, how did it impact your life? My brother, holiday, he gave me an opportunity. Um and how it impacted me.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

And I'm here now. I could have re-enlisted, got back in the military. Yeah. Um I could have You were Navy, sir? I were I was in the Army. You were in Army, okay. Navy Air Force. He was Navy. It was Navy, okay. Okay. Yeah, I and I could have I could have had a different path that didn't involve my brothers. So yeah, holiday, he gave me uh opportunity.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

I mean working with him is I mean, you work with him. Yeah, of course.

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It's it's uh it's a challenge, but it's like for the most part. He knows what he's talking about. Even when you don't want to give him credit, yeah, you know, he knows, he knows. There's something there. I'll put it like that. There's something there. Okay. There's something there. I might see I might have ruined my chance to be on the next album anyway. Well, you didn't say you were doing your own project. Yeah. But it's gonna be with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's gonna he's got uh sabotage. I'm joking. I think you're like uh, because I mean this is real. Yeah, he really did help me out. It's awesome. It's

Plugs Final Thoughts And Farewell

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awesome. So with that said, um, as we're wrapping up, um, we always want to uh give everybody their shameless plugs. So if there's anything that you want to share, like anything like social media-wise, anything you got going on, this is kind of your time to be able to share it. Oh let's see. Um you can always check out uh episodes of Camel Toe Tap on YouTube. Uh we also have Distraction Network on YouTube. Um you can check that out. There's a lot of off-the-wall content. Tasteful off-the-wall content. You know, um, other than that, we have uh Southern Slower, volume three. Um, that's out now. Um a lot of great songs on there, so make sure you check it out. And other than that, I've been whatever I have coming, you you will see it. That's all that's all. Not stopping. Yes, man. Please stay in touch with us, man. Keep us posted. And you don't got a contact holler than the contact. You can't talk to us too. It's okay. Okay, and now I know like you're in uh the Columbia area. Yes. Yeah, right there. I'm actually based on Urmo. Yeah, see, I'm back. I mean, I work in the uh like Chesterfield, yeah, up by um Monroe, North Carolina. Okay, you're right. So yeah, I can I'll be able to, you know, contact you on the way back if you got time to do so. Yeah, sure. Like co let me know because we're always, like I said, my brother and I will we so I don't want to start sync hawk um arbitrary conversations. And that's where me and him just got to get together and we talk about this thing, it's like how it goes for stuff as things going wrong topics and make a roll and we get together. And we haven't done as many of us as we want to, but that's kind of it's really gonna be like nine, it's not interview-based. And so I know we're always looking to um expand on that. And yeah, hey, we'd welcome have you come in and kind of share your thoughts too with us. Yeah, we can do that. Definitely, definitely. Just uh uh, you know, just don't tell him you like me better. Oh, really? I was I think I might have told him that when he told me about the album when when y'all just dropped this most recent project. I was like, man, I really I really saw 16. He's like 16. My brother I was asking, brother. He was like, Yeah. I was like, okay, word, word, work, you know, and that was it, man. That was it. Because I know I really what's the song? The grandma song. Yeah. Uh what is it? Is it bust that ass? That was what. Yeah, so yeah, I would listen to him. Yeah, I was like, okay, I like this, I like this. It's dope. It's real dope. It's it's and it's it's his fault because he challenges me to do better. Yeah. And so that's what I try to do. And I don't know why, you know. I think he would like it, you know. But I think he does like it. He's just he's a little tired of hearing it. He is. Yeah, it's all love though. Yeah, that's all, man. So, like I said, man, it was an honor to have him on, man. I was 16, man. So we'll definitely um share, like I said, any information, any updates you got. Just let us know. But yeah, I know all we're done with love to have met you today. That's cool. They can watch this episode. And like I said, when you pass it through, you know, we can wake up and stuff. We all hang out. But with that said, uh, this is Skip with Hillshop Love, and I'm here with 16K. 16Ks. Um, of course, um with the episodes like many others. Um have a love, how's Almore saying? Yeah. Almost says, well, you know, if you're beside somebody, um let them know that you love them. And uh, like I said, everybody be safe and look forward to hearing from you from next time. It's been Hill Top 12 Podcast. Peace.